Wing wont start (1 Viewer)

[csd4t]

Is it HISS, usually the red light blinks in a certain order to indicate the trouble code. Not 100% sure on tje wing but disconnecting the HISS on the CBR600RR race engines was a bit involved

 

[bobnick]

Is it HISS, usually the red light blinks in a certain order to indicate the trouble code. Not 100% sure on tje wing but disconnecting the HISS on the CBR600RR race engines was a bit involved

The red light on the fob does blink but i wouldn't know if the blink correct or not.
I will let the Honda dealer sort it, i've had enough of it.
I'll use my other bike in the meantime, as i did today.

 

[csd4t]

red light on the dash not the fob

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[old-mo]

I will let the Honda dealer sort it, i've had enough of it.

Bob....... Trade it in for a proper bike...

 

[bobnick]

red light on the dash not the fob

No red light flashing on the dash. Don't ever remember seeing one?

 

[bobnick]

Bob....... Trade it in for a proper bike...

Not old enough for one of those yet Mo, i'm only 73

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[bobnick]

Had 3 Harleys in my time.
1st a 883 Speedster, worse bike i ever had, sold it after 2 months and vowed i would never buy another. Few years later.
2nd a V Rod Night Rod in Denim Black. Can't remember why i was in the Harley dealer but they were just uncrating it, i ask what it was, he told me and that it was the first one in that dealership, i asked if it was sold he said no i said yes it is i'll buy it now. Now that was a good bike.
3rd A Fat Bob. Bought in Dubai cause Harleys were virtually the only bike you saw there in them days there.

 

[f6c]

Gold Wing Ever Time and the F6C

 

[bobnick]

The white one i had from 2012 to 2016

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[Coastal Cruiser.]

Bob....... Trade it in for a proper bike...

Don’t think anyone could take him seriously if he had one of them Also I don’t think he would look good in chaps and tassels

 

[Wh05apk]

Both fob batteries' are new.
Immobiliser, what where? does the wing have one

Might be worth checking or changing the fob batteries, if they are like the ones in our metatrack, even new ones don't always work properly.

 

[bobnick]

Might be worth checking or changing the fob batteries, if they are like the ones in our metatrack, even new ones don't always work properly.

Would that affect the starting??? every thing else works, just the starter button is not turning the starter??
I will check again tomorrow but really don't think they both can be defective as both recently changed.

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[mofurt]

I may be talking rubbish here, but it doesn't really make sense to have HISS on a keyless bike. HISS uses the little chip inside the key to check that you are actually turning the ignition on using a key that is programmed to the bike, not a copied blade, a big screwdriver or cutting the wires behind the switch and twisting them together.

A keyless ignition doesn't bother with that; if the bike doesn't recognise that the correct fob is close, it won't let you get as far as you have in getting to the accessories live stage, it just won't turn on at all. Yours does, so it must be recognising the key - which also suggest fob batteries are fine.

Sidestand switch shouldn't be an issue; that would let a DCT start (assuming it is in neutral) but not go into gear. Your dash is showing it is in neutral, so not the DCT being stuck in gear (can happen apparently, especially if you do something like park against a kerb so the wheel is holding the transmission in tension and it can't easily knock itself into neutral with the servos - in which case you have to rock the bike backwards and forwards). No clutch switch, so that's not the problem.

My first checks would be that the battery really does enough voltage (I know you've charged it, but it may be dying), and a run through the fuses.

Otherwise, as you are now sick of the sight of it, I'll do you a favour and pop around with my trailer and just take it away so you never have to deal with it again.

 

[Coastal Cruiser.]

I'll do you a favour and pop around with my trailer and just take it away so you never have to deal with it again.

It’s going on eBay so you will have to take your chances like the rest of us

 

[Steve and Denise]

We bought a new Honda sh300 to take to Spain with us after about 100 miles I parked he scoot went into the super market upon return it would not even turn on keyless (new battery fitted)
So stuck in a car park in Spain, I rang the dealer I bought it from to ask if this was a known problem?
Their answer was a stunner! If you just pop in to our dealer in Grantham we will have a technician trouble shoot it for you fortunately a friend pressed numerous buttons numerous times and it came to life, never had a problem since

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[David and Sally]

We bought a new Honda sh300 to take to Spain with us after about 100 miles I parked he scoot went into the super market upon return it would not even turn on keyless (new battery fitted)
So stuck in a car park in Spain, I rang the dealer I bought it from to ask if this was a known problem?
Their answer was a stunner! If you just pop in to our dealer in Grantham we will have a technician trouble shoot it for you fortunately a friend pressed numerous buttons numerous times and it came to life, never had a problem since

A pal on a tour we were on parked his BMW GS next to the hotel. On leaving it simply didn't do anything. No lights, no starter. Tried everything until a guy passing by said move it a meter or so away. Did that and it started as normal.
Apparently he had parked on top of a known issue where underground cables effectively jammed his alarm system.

 

[mofurt]

Having said that the sidestand switch shouldn't be an issue, it occurs to me that you might be on the main stand and side stand up. If it's a three wire switch it might not know the state and be locking out because of that - so try putting it down. Not got a wing (yet - unless you take me up on my kind, selfless offer...) so don't know if it is two or three wire. My VFR1200x is a two wire.
Could also be a faulty bank sensor (tip over switch), but then you are into pulling things apart and getting the multimeter out.

 

[bobnick]

Having said that the sidestand switch shouldn't be an issue, it occurs to me that you might be on the main stand and side stand up. If it's a three wire switch it might not know the state and be locking out because of that - so try putting it down. Not got a wing (yet - unless you take me up on my kind, selfless offer...) so don't know if it is two or three wire. My VFR1200x is a two wire.
Could also be a faulty bank sensor (tip over switch), but then you are into pulling things apart and getting the multimeter out.

It's on the side stand and parked where it has always been parked in the garage.
The guy in the Honda workshop yesterday asked me if it had an immobiliser, i said i don't know

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[Steve and Denise]

A pal on a tour we were on parked his BMW GS next to the hotel. On leaving it simply didn't do anything. No lights, no starter. Tried everything until a guy passing by said move it a meter or so away. Did that and it started as normal.
Apparently he had parked on top of a known issue where underground cables effectively jammed his alarm system.

It did cross my mind about outside interference but as the steering lock is also electronic moving it would be a task

 

[Steve and Denise]

It's on the side stand and parked where it has always been parked in the garage.
The guy in the Honda workshop yesterday asked me if it had an immobiliser, i said i don't know

Maybe the dealer would know

 

[bobnick]

Maybe the dealer would know

It was the main Honda dealer in Chester i asked.

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[mofurt]

The supplying dealer might know if they've fitted one, but otherwise it's like asking Fiat if Vanbitz has put an immobiliser onto a motorhome - not a chance of them knowing as it simply wouldn't be in their records.. It is a reasonable question for them to ask in trying to fault find as aftermarket immobilisers are notoriously problematic, but I'd have thought you'd be aware of one as you'd have something to carry or use (like a token to touch or a keyfob to blip) in order to disable it.

 

[bobnick]

The bike is keyless. The fob has has to be within a certain range for the bike to recognise it before it will start.

 

[bobnick]

Bill Smiths collected my non starting Wing on Tuesday late afternoon.
Not heard from them what might be the issue.
Will revert.

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[ChrisL]

If it's an automatic, does it have to be in park before it will start?

 

[bobnick]

If it's an automatic, does it have to be in park before it will start?

Neutral.

 

[bobnick]

Update for those that are interested.
Of course they wouldn't contact me to tell me whats going on so i went down there, only 20 miles each way.(yes i could have phoned but wanted a ride anyway)
Turns out it needs a new fuel pump.......................£900........excluding labour. Ouch.
Said there is some sort of a safety device fitted to it which prevents it from turning over
I don't know if they are feeding me Bullsh@t.
No good to me in the garage so told them to go ahead and fix it.

Decided (before now actually) the new bike does what i want out of a bike nowadays so the Wing will be sold.............CC no not on Ebay

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[Yorick]

Update for those that are interested.
Of course they wouldn't contact me to tell me whats going on so i went down there, only 20 miles each way.(yes i could have phoned but wanted a ride anyway)
Turns out it needs a new fuel pump.......................£900........excluding labour. Ouch.
Said there is some sort of a safety device fitted to it which prevents it from turning over
I don't know if they are feeding me Bullsh@t.
No good to me in the garage so told them to go ahead and fix it.

Decided (before now actually) the new bike does what i want out of a bike nowadays so the Wing will be sold.............CC no not on Ebay

By law they have to give you the faulty fuel pump if you ask for it. It's still your property.
Then maybe get it checked out later?

 

[Yorick]

Turns out it needs a new fuel pump.......................£900........excluding labour. Ouch.

That seems extortionate after a quick Google

If I were you, I'd call someone like Fowlers for the proper price

 

[bobnick]

That seems extortionate after a quick Google

If I were you, I'd call someone like Fowlers for the proper price

Too late i have given them the go ahead.
And i can't be doing with the hassle of what might be involved to get the bike picked up again and taken elsewhere.

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