Wing wont start (1 Viewer)

[PP Bear]

Mate you need one of these in a side pannier, a bit like a toad car, but lighter

 

[bobnick]

Mate you need one of these in a side pannier, a bit like a toad car, but lighter
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Bit like a Grom....................no thanks, i'll catch the bus

 

[Steve and Denise]

I'm open to any alternative suggestions. And no i don't have faith in dealers, BUT, they WILL get the bike started...................i think/hope.
Oh and i'm not taking it, they will collect it

So you have more faith in the dealer than your own ability

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[bobnick]

So you have more faith in the dealer than your own ability

Definitely. I was hoping it may have been a simple fix that even i might have been able to sort but alas no.

 

[Steve and Denise]

Better off getting an older one, fewer electronics = less chance of going wrong in my book. Might even get one with a kick start

Kick start one of my bad days with a kick start

 

[Coastal Cruiser.]

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Looks like a nice big MX 2t rash
Had a Race Tuned YZ 490 that would do that, soon learned never to kick a bike over without decent boots on

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[PP Bear]

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Yuk, it’s ya pants

 

[Steve and Denise]

Looks like a nice big MX 2t rash
Had a Race Tuned YZ 490 that would do that, soon learned never to kick a bike over without decent boots on

This was the culprit just slipped

 

[Coastal Cruiser.]

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This was the culprit just slipped

Clumsy bugger

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[jongood]

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This was the culprit just slipped

Like the tailpiece, custom job? What is it underneath- XS650 ?

 

[Steve and Denise]

Like the tailpiece, custom job? What is it underneath- XS650 ?

Yes noting much standard left of it

 

[bobnick]

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I remember the days, ouch.

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[Geistguy]

It's a DCT (automatic) so no clutch.

Not sure technically but does DCT not stand for "dual clutch transmission."

 

[bobnick]

Not sure technically but does DCT not stand for "dual clutch transmission."

Yes probably, but you still cannot bump start it. By not having a clutch lever the old school (me) says it has no clutch.

 

[jongood]

This amply demonstrates the problem with all this technology, Motorcycles used to be really straightforward machines. Until quite recently, unless a major component had failed - which was usually pretty obvious - almost anyone could get them going again. This is almost certainly not a major component failure but most of us would have no chance of fixing it - like most of these comfortmatic failures.

So what is the point of all these electronics?

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[bobnick]

This amply demonstrates the problem with all this technology, Motorcycles used to be really straightforward machines. Until quite recently, unless a major component had failed - which was usually pretty obvious - almost anyone could get them going again. This is almost certainly not a major component failure but most of us would have no chance of fixing it - like most of these comfortmatic failures.

So what is the point of all these electronics?

I have never been a spanner monkey but many years ago i did do lots of repairs on my cars and bikes. It was easy to take a starter motor off and put a replacement one on, or a fan belt. Bike bits were as easy, but as you say nowadays you stand no chance.

If we all had half a brain we would buy Dacia's. The boss there says that 2 or 3 safety ***s are purely based on electronic warning devices in the car. He says not needed if one drives properly and concentrates therfore all this trickery he don't put in the cars therefore keeping them less expensive.
I drive a Dacia Duster when in Dubai and it's absolutly fine.

 

[BouncyBoatFolk]

Mate you need one of these in a side pannier, a bit like a toad car, but lighter
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Like our old Humber Super Snipe, that had a Hillman Minx tucked in the boot as a spare.
Mike.

 

[Yorick]

Many folk bemoaning modern bikes with electronics.
I've had about 15 new sports bikes since my CBR600 in 1992.

None of them had any electrical or other problems. Many had a hard life on track.

But by hell the bikes before were always breaking down and big problems were a regular thing.

Be careful what you wish for

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[Flairy]

Went to buy an Egli Vincent from Roger Slater early 70s he almost broke his leg trying to start it so I said thankyou and went an bought a 900gts Ducati it was so easey you just pressed the button off you go ,did 69000 thousand miles on that 2 up it was so basic a pleasure.

 

[bobnick]

I'm not moaning about modern bikes, i am stating many years ago i could work on them or older cars but nowadays i have no chance. And i have had absolutely minimal trouble with the moderns and much prefered.

 

[mofurt]

Like old Land Rovers, the good thing with old bikes was that you could fix them at the side of the road with a spanner and a hammer.
The bad thing with old bikes was that you needed to...

Give me modern electronics, engines that start with quarter of a revolution of the starter even on cold, damp days, that you can run from sea level to high mountains without the mixture going out, and brakes that work. And will run for thousands of miles with no more than an oil change. My current main ride is a Honda Crosstourer. That DCT gearbox is brilliant, especially if you are doing a lot of stop-start stuff as I do marshalling some events. Really well thought out to give engine braking on downhills or let it roll (depending on if you've tapped the brake or not) etc.

How did you get on with getting the Wing fixed?

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[bobnick]

Not sort yet. Was away last week. Yesterday traffic was daft so turned back. Going to Bill Smiths in the morning to try and sort a collection and repair.
Today at a classic car show/meet.

 

[Littlewheels]

Not sort yet. Was away last week. Yesterday traffic was daft so turned back. Going to Bill Smiths in the morning to try and sort a collection and repair.
Today at a classic car show/meet.

Do keep us updated need to know the cause.

 

[Coastal Cruiser.]

You can always post it on eBay as spares or repair

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[bobnick]

You can always post it on eBay as spares or repair

Keep an eye out for it

 

[Coastal Cruiser.]

Keep an eye out for it

Will do

 

[olley]

Like our old Humber Super Snipe, that had a Hillman Minx tucked in the boot as a spare.
Mike.

I had a minx, bench front seat, very good for courting.

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[bobnick]

Update.
They cannot collect the bike until 13th June.
Not bothered as we go to Iceland (no not the supermarket.......got to get that in before someone else) for 13 days in between.

 

[csd4t]

Immobiliser?
Fob battery?

 

[bobnick]

Immobiliser?
Fob battery?

Both fob batteries' are new.
Immobiliser, what where? does the wing have one

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