I have been unhappy with my van for a while now because of the constant stream of problems. However these have all been resolved with some help from @Wildbill so I was actually quite content to keep it for a few year longer. However, I saw a nice Luton conversion a few weeks ago that whetted my appetite again for another build. As I have thought it through and sketched rough layouts I have realised I will be doing all this for an extra 2 feet of length and a few features I quite like the look of. I spent an hour last night trawling various sites looking at other plans, and it took me back to my very original plan before going fulltiming of converting a 20' box truck. I ended up converting a bus and didn't get on with it due to it's width, sloppy steering, too many windows causing condensation and limited height. So I moved back to a van and converted it myself. Hard to believe that was almost 8 years ago.. Anyway, my plans for fulltiming have changed now. Originally I was going to be touring europe for a few years then coming back off the road. I now don't plan on touring quite so much and don't plan to come off the road. Thinking about this it actually makes more sense to add to my comfort levels by building bigger and if necessary tow a small trailer with a tiny car on it for shopping etc. So I just looked at some trucks last night on autotrader and it appears that 7.5T trucks are cheaper than 3.5T vans and come in a range of sizes (the box) from 15' to 30'.. So here is my initial thoughts. I will look at a 20' box (6 metres) or maybe a 24' box. The 24' box I am thinking would be good if I carry a quad bike inside for shopping. Otherwise just a 20' box. Because I have the payload in a 7.5T truck I can add LOADS of solar panels and carry a big battery bank. I could also install an electric start LPG generator (eventually). Very large water tanks and a washer/drier means I won't need to keep driving to the laundrette. I will also have a separate shower from the toilet so no more having to wipe down the toilet etc after each shower and drying the floor of the shower. I will also be able to move my chest freezer from the trailer into the van. Because of the payload I can add a separate red diesel tank and install an eberspacher for winter use. This will free me from having to find LPG in the winter if the weather gets bad... (Long story but it involved driving 50 miles) Because of the height off the ground I could add underbody storage and underbody services such as bulk waste tanks with pump etc etc. I have thought of all this stuff before, but having a small van has limited what I can do. This project will be a long term one. I will do what I did with the van, which is to get it very quickly habitable with the absolute basics, then over the next 2-3 years slowly add to it and update stuff as finances and time allow. This is one truck that I quite like but the mileage is a touch on the high side. https://trucks.autotrader.co.uk/search/advert/iveco/eurocargo/160165186503846 Quite like this one with the 24' body on it. No mileages listed though. https://trucks.autotrader.co.uk/search/advert/daf/lf-series/164017713299798 The reason I am looking at the bottom end of the price range is I am not 100% sure this will suite me. So I will roughly convert a cheap one. If it works out I can redo the conversion much nicer or upgrade to a much newer truck to do a proper conversion. This first truck conversion will be done on the cheap without skimping on durability. It will also allow me to tune the layout.. My current van has been through 3 different rebuild jobs. Oh, well. while I am saving up for it I can dream and plan Aiming for a budget of £7,000 for the initial truck and conversion.