Starting to plan my new van/truck

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  1. Theonlysue

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    Some of the old bt vans may already be insulated and water and electric in hab areas.
     
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    That roller shutter at the back looks usefull for a garage area though.
     
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    What sort of fuel consumption do these type of truck have.
     
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    When not in the hands of a parcel driver I guess you could get in to low twenties
     
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    Just because a vehicle is exempt from MOT doesn't mean it hasn't been kept in good order, surely service etc records would show this? If not then the history of the vehicle itself could give a good indication, eg BT vans would have had to be kept in a safe state for their own use.
     
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    I've just dug out the below images of a camper which we were behind last year, he went the opposite way to us so I couldn't get any more photos ... the owner appears to have moved the roller shutter down which is quite a good idea as it would allow a permanent bed to be put above it and still leave space for a garage/bike below, I know it's much smaller than what you're after Karl but thought the idea might be useful.

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    I hesitate to suggest this @Gromett but ... there was a chap on an aire in Spain/Portugal last year who had converted a large box trailer into a 'caravan' ... he had put windows etc in and it already appears to have had a side door, as he sat outside a lot I didn't want to be too obvious with taking the photos! I'm just wondering if it is worth you considering this sort of set up if you are likely to be less 'mobile' than you originally intended.

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    Sorry @Minxy Girl neither of those two are suitable for what I want. Certainly not the trailer.
    I am definitely looking for a very clean large box. Veering towards the 24' one now so I can carry a road legal quad bike or similar in the back.
    1st one doesn't look like a 7.5T truck more like a large van :(
     
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    I know the 1st one isn't a suitable vehicle for you - that's what I said ... it was the IDEA of the lowered roller door which I thought would make it useful to be able to have a bed over the 'garage' and still give room to park a bike/quad bike in the back ... :rolleyes:
     
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    This is one I'll definitely be following @Gromett :)

    Now, if you could just speed your plans up and start now please, then post all about your no doubt well thought out electrical system. Then I can stop thinking and copy you :)

    Joking aside, what are your thoughts on heating and water heating?

    I've had Truma units for years and tbh not that happy with them. Thinking of going with a Propex heater, plus an ebber or similar for when in transit and for redundancy (aiming to spend a lot of time in cold areas) and then a tankless water heater (Morco room sealed or similar) so a decent shower is possible. Good idea or bad in your opinion?

    I have this all planned and can make it all fit, plus it will work on timers from my control panel (Arduino and Bluetooth), just haven't made a final decision.
     
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    A 24ft body is more like one used by firms like dfs, parcel boxes always seem to be 20ft
     
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    What about a 10 ton fridge motor . Down plate it to 7.5 ton and all the walls are insulated already. Just a thought.
     
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    Down plating can sometimes cost you quite a bit in load capacity as they are usually built heavier , and suspension can be a bit harsh in some cases. Ex furniture type pantechs have a drop low floor behind the axle which would give a garage below a reasonable height bed at rear .
     
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    Thanks. The problem with roller shutter doors is their poor insulation level. I am still mulling over the design and the requirements. But if access to the rear is maintained for a vehicle I will put in a lift up door to provide cover over a garage area probably, the door will also be insulated and sealed. Thanks for the thought though.
     
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    You may be waiting a long time. I will be buying the vehicle, insulating, lining and fitting 2 windows. I will then move into it using temporary fixtures while I do the rest over a period of a year or two. This is how I did my van. It means living rough for a bit but it does mean you can redo design elements that don't work. With a 20' or 24' box I can partition off a section as a workshop and keep the live hab area clean and usable while I continue to work on the rest.

    For water heating I will probably get a propex dual gas/electric, but will also have an instant water heater of some variety for the shower. With a 7.5T vehicle I have the payload for a large water and grey tank so being able to have a decent shower again would be lovely. For heating, I will eventually have a some method of transferring heat (calorifier) from the engine when driving, I will also have a propex 2000 for blown air heating. I did consider underfloor heating but not really practical for the build method I will be using. I will also eventually install a separate red diesel tank and an eberspacher so I will be able to have heat from either LPG, Diesel or electric. There will be a an expandable frame on the roof for solar panels. initial rough measurements indicates I could easily fit 1.2Kw of solar. I would have an expandable battery system as well. Initially it will just be a small bank, but as finances allow I would increase the number of batteries and probably work across 2 banks. The entire trucks electrical system will be controlled by solid physical toggle switches as a fall back to an idea I have in gestation for an arduino controlled system that includes 7" e-ink panels around the van and a bluetooth adapter to connect to my phone and tablet. All the lights will operate on something similar to a can bus where by they get a common supply and data signals are sent over the +ve line to tell them to switch on or off. However there would also be a mechanical switch on each light to allow them to be overridden if things go wrong. The switch would be a double throw switch so it has an on/off/auto position.

    I am looking forward to this project and actually getting excited again for the first time in many years. But as I said, this is a long term project and not something that will be started tomorrow and finished later this year...[/QUOTE]
     
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