Water filling woes

[Spawn_e_git]

So I have a Burstner Argos and filling with water has always been a PIA since owning it.
It may be in part because I like to use the clip in connector shown below.

The water tank has what appears to be an overflow/air vent pipe that runs into the filling socket, see the blue pipe.

The problem seems to come from the insert that goes into the socket to make the standard filler cap fit. It just pushes in but blocks the vent hole.

It just pushes in and cal be pulled out so probably makes locking the cap a waste of time.

The main issues is any half descent water flow and it mostly run down the side of the van because the air has nowhere to escape.
If you leave it on low enough flow it will fill to the point where it starts to pressurised the tank causing water leaks around the level probe.
If I remove the main tank inspection screw in cap, it can fill really fast as the air can escape but take your eye off the ball and you end up with a flooded garage.
Is this filler cap normal I have I got some crap adaptor to make the standard cap fit and what I need to do it buy a proper filler cap and a different hose adaptor?

 

[M-J]

Have you tried wasser rather than just standard water?

 

[Spawn_e_git]

Have you tried wasser rather than just standard water?

No where can I buy it from????????

 

[Boris7]

I'd start here, I'm fairly sure you take the inner circle piece out if the tank vents to the filler.

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read down "Change the parts to fit your vehicle design. Simply follow the included instructions."

 

[Boris7]

I still have the packet and will read it on Friday when I pick there MH up

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[WillH]

I use a watering can, no problems at all. Fits all taps and valves and goes any distance.

 

[dunnah01]

I use a watering can, no problems at all. Fits all taps and valves and goes any distance.

But takes for flippin ever

 

[Manic]

I have the same type of filler and I fitted a bit of hose to mine which goes in the fill pipe and get no more dribbling.

 

[XxAnthxX]

I have the heos filler cap....

If you remove the plastic ring and set it up as if its an unvented water tank, it allows air out past the filler cap as the water is going in, rather than using the vent.

I have the instructions here if you want any info from it......

 

[Manic]

Also I have a 80mm elbow that fits in the filler for when I use a can.

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[gus-lopez]

The problem seems to come from the insert that goes into the socket to make the standard filler cap fit. It just pushes in but blocks the vent hole.

should be glued in. Position it ,mark where it covers vent, remove & file /cut clearance for vent , test refit & if ok stick it in with superglue.

 

[Lenny HB]

The Heos ones they sell two types one vented one unvented.
You just need to drill a hole for an air vent in yours.

 

[TUCANO]

Simply don't use the clip in connector, push a plain hose further in.

 

[dunnah01]

Simply don't use the clip in connector, push a plain hose further in.

And watch it pop out when you turn the tap on.

 

[TUCANO]

Assuming there is someone else around

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[busby]

But takes for flippin ever

No hurry when your away,,Nice job in the sun,,can fill mine in 5 mins unless the tap is miles away..BUSBY.

 

[dunnah01]

No hurry when your away,,Nice job in the sun,,can fill mine in 5 mins unless the tap is miles away..BUSBY.

100 litres from a 10 litre watering can in 5 mins, that's Usain Bolt pace so good on yer..

 

[WillH]

100 litres from a 10 litre watering can in 5 mins, that's Usain Bolt pace so good on yer..

Top up once or twice a day, 5 mins is about right.

 

[Lenny HB]

No hurry when your away,,Nice job in the sun,,can fill mine in 5 mins unless the tap is miles away..BUSBY.

That's because you have only got a little one.
Mines a big one

 

[XxAnthxX]

Take a look at the images from the advert and you see which piece to remove for vented or unvented tanks....no hole drilling.

HEOSolution 5251 Water Connector with Gardena, Blue Amazon product ASIN B00NXYFC30

As I said I have the instructions if you need them.

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[busby]

That's because you have only gat a little one.
Mines a big one

Your at it again,,your making me feel inadequate ,BUSBY,,

 

[Taff015]

Also I have a 80mm elbow that fits in the filler for when I use a can.
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That's the greatest thing I've seen yet!! I am so stealing this!
I have been pouring it in through the access panel in the floor...... Don't I feel as thick as mince now!!!!

 

[Minxy]

Simply don't use the clip in connector, push a plain hose further in.

And watch it pop out when you turn the tap on.

We had one of the Heos fillers cap things when we had a Globecar and as the vent was a small hole in the edge of the filler aperture, similar to the OP's, we had an issue with it as, even when set to use with an unvented tank, the hole was way too small to allow excess water to overflow consequently we ended up with a flooded camper as it came out of one of the inspection caps! I ditched the Heos and adapted our hose pipes by fitting hooks on them (hooks were off coat hangers) so they allowed one-person filling but with no risk of it flooding the camper again. We've used the 'hook' method a lot and it works a treat.

 

[Minxy]

That's the greatest thing I've seen yet!! I am so stealing this!
I have been pouring it in through the access panel in the floor...... Don't I feel as thick as mince now!!!!

The one I have uses a smaller elbow so it goes directly into the filler itself rather than into the outer edge which can be a bit mucky, we drink from our tank but if you don't this won't be such a concern.

 

[Northernraider]

I just put a hose complete with the connector on the end in the fill hole ...works fine never falls out

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[Simon Meadwell]

Whats wrong with just holding the hose in the tank until its full 5 minutes or so works for me. No chance of overflow or flooding you out.

 

[Rapidoman 2011]

When l picked up this Motorhome water kept coming out through the filling point as l was filling it. After lots of crawling around and checking this and that, l found that someone had pushed a tyre valve into the breather under the van, pulled that out, big gush of air and now fills easy as anything.

 

[Manic]

Whats wrong with just holding the hose in the tank until its full 5 minutes or so works for me. No chance of overflow or flooding you out.

Not so easy if it’s a push button tap, unless you’ve got really long arm.

 

[steve 6644]

That's because you have only got a little one.
Mines a big one

With substantial dribbles and leaks as well Lenny?

 

[2657]

Not so easy if it’s a push button tap, unless you’ve got really long arm.

Back to the watering can

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