So is France open from Monday. (1 Viewer)

[joka250]

I agree Jon, entirely! One simile however. Quite a few businesses considered they had business interruption insurance, that's not going too well for them.

Agreed entirely and given it takes only one simple e mail to confirm cover it's almost not worth debating.
I do wonder given that the EHIC is a form of insurance is it affected FCO advice. Not able to travel until tail end of year so not too worried personally.

 

[Emmit]

Pandemics aren’t covered. I would consider going abroad when the chances of catching the virus is low enough for us to take the risk. I personally think it’s just too soon at present. We both have health conditions.

Current advice from Martin Lewis, (and I know he isn't the Law) is that if you renew your travel Insurance with the same Co. then they cannot 'Move the Goalposts' when it comes to Covid. If they covered you last year, you're covered this year.

Of course, that doesn't prevent them providing you with a non acceptable bill for their services.

 

[Riverbankannie]

Germany is open without a quarantine. You may travel through France in order to get to Belgium and through Belgium in order to get to Germany from Monday, and Luxembourg if you ar elooking for even cheaper fuel
Ventusky will give me my final destination and the Baltic coast is looking very hot.
I am between the Dordogne, the vercors, the baltic and Black forest. Weather is better in Germany for next 10 days

Go to the Baltic coast! You know you have to go where I have been.
One highlight, Lübeck you can stay for free Sunday nights, or 10 € other nights on the Stellplatz just outside the town walls. Unfortunately Kiel Sailing Festival postponed till September.

Kieler Woche - From Kiel to the World

www.kieler-woche.de

Peenemünde well worth a visit too.

Peenemünde - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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[138go]

My understanding is, pandemics were never covered.

Current advice from Martin Lewis, (and I know he isn't the Law) is that if you renew your travel Insurance with the same Co. then they cannot 'Move the Goalposts' when it comes to Covid. If they covered you last year, you're covered this year.

Of course, that doesn't prevent them providing you with a non acceptable bill for their services.

Due to the impact Coronavirus (COVID-19) is having in Europe, we’ve taken the decision to temporarily suspend the sale of Red Pennant insurance. This will help ensure we can focus on assisting our members that have existing policies at this difficult time.

If you already have a Red Pennant policy, you can contact us to amend your policy, make a claim or renew your annual policy.

Please be aware there will not be any cover for anything linked to Coronavirus for any new trips you may book, as this is now a known event.

We will start selling Red Pennant again as soon as we can.

 

[DBK]

Peenemünde well worth a visit too.

Peenemünde - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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The V2's were launched from around there, they have a V2 museum now.

 

[suavecarve]

There is also a restaurant that you submerge 10 metres underwater to eat somewhere. Rostock i think.

Germany has to be monitored by state aswell as there are different criteria.

Probably wont make up our minds til under the tunnel or at customs. Depends what asked if anything is asked

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[Riverbankannie]

The V2's were launched from around there, they have a V2 museum now.

Yes, and very good it is too with descriptions in German and English and a very moving display of photographs of London showing the damage done.

We also went to the Junkers museum and at both places, you could clearly see how the US and UK aerospace companies had benefited from early German blueprints and models.

 

[Emmit]

My understanding is, pandemics were never covered.


Due to the impact Coronavirus (COVID-19) is having in Europe, we’ve taken the decision to temporarily suspend the sale of Red Pennant insurance. This will help ensure we can focus on assisting our members that have existing policies at this difficult time.

If you already have a Red Pennant policy, you can contact us to amend your policy, make a claim or renew your annual policy.

Please be aware there will not be any cover for anything linked to Coronavirus for any new trips you may book, as this is now a known event.

We will start selling Red Pennant again as soon as we can.

I'll see if I can find the comment/article by Martin Lewis

 

[Edenside]

My understanding of the travel insurance is that they will cover you for Covid 19 for any holiday you booked before the pandemic but not any holidays booked since. We are due on a Cruise in October 2020 which was booked December 2019 and I am sure we are covered. However if we had booked it in April 2020 we would not have been covered.
The Martin Lewis item suggested that if my annual travel insurance needed to be renewed in say May 2020 as long as I renewed with the same company they would still honour my October trip but if I took out a new policy with a different company then it would not be covered.
May be wrong but that is my understanding of the situation.

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[klaatu]

Here’s the official announcement (made yesterday, by the foreign and internal ministers) of the removal of restrictions on French borders with the rest of Europe, on June 15.

Communiqué de presse de Jean-Yves Le Drian et Christophe Castaner (12.06.20)

Étant donné l'évolution favorable de la situation sanitaire en France et en Europe et conformément aux recommandations de la Commission européenne présentées hier, la France lèvera le 15 juin au matin (0h00) l'ensemble des restrictions de circulation à ses frontières intérieures européennes...

www.diplomatie.gouv.fr

 

[Emmit]

I'll see if I can find the comment/article by Martin Lewis

Vickysponge

I've been on 'Catchup' and found the programme that mentioned Coronavirus and Travel Insurance.
It's on the Martin Lewis Money Show of Thursday 11th June.
At about 04:33 into the programme Lewis confirms (and I think if it applies to you or you think it does, please have a look yourself.)

From what I gather, if you have Annual Travel Insurance and that policy ran out after the Coronavirus hit AND IT COVERED CORONAVIRUS, if you renewed THAT Travel Insurance to continue then any Holiday plans going forward are also covered.
I think that's what was announced.
As it says on the Share Buying Forums. Do your own research

 

[DBK]

Here’s the official announcement (made yesterday, by the foreign and internal ministers) of the removal of restrictions on French borders with the rest of Europe, on June 15.

Communiqué de presse de Jean-Yves Le Drian et Christophe Castaner (12.06.20)

Étant donné l'évolution favorable de la situation sanitaire en France et en Europe et conformément aux recommandations de la Commission européenne présentées hier, la France lèvera le 15 juin au matin (0h00) l'ensemble des restrictions de circulation à ses frontières intérieures européennes...

www.diplomatie.gouv.fr

A translation. I guess the unknown is how UK travellers will be received by the locals.

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[IanRJ]

I guess the question would be what does 'Invited to observe a fortnight' imply? Enforced or voluntary?

 

[Ingwe]

A translation. I guess the unknown is how UK travellers will be received by the locals.

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I hope, DBK, that the reception by locals will NOT be reminiscent of scenes from Witchfinder General! Any flaming torches, pitchforks and huge, funny-looking yokels, looking for their village, will be met by me swinging a day old baguette. And you (and Chris) know how deadly that can be.

 

[Captain Lloyd]

COVID-19 Exceptional Travel Advisory Notice
The Foreign & Commonwealth Office currently advises British nationals against all but essential international travel. This advice is being kept under constant review.

My money says quarantine will be scrapped on the 29th and FO advice will change.

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[spitfire]

I guess the question would be what does 'Invited to observe a fortnight' imply? Enforced or voluntary?

I would think you are being politely asked and would hope that you would respect that .

 

[klaatu]

I guess the question would be what does 'Invited to observe a fortnight' imply? Enforced or voluntary?

If you are invited to a party, does it mean that you are forced to go?

It’s voluntary. The French Constitutional Council ruled that enforcing quarantine on someone who isn’t showing symptoms is unconstitutional. So, if you respect their decision, and the constitution of France, you can politely decline the invitation.

 

[spitfire]

If you are invited to a party, does it mean that you are forced to go?

It’s voluntary. The French Constitutional Council ruled that enforcing quarantine on someone who isn’t showing symptoms is unconstitutional. So, if you respect their decision, and the constitution of France, you can politely decline the invitation.

So you are encouraging people not to quarantine and you live here ?

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[klaatu]

So you are encouraging people not to quarantine and you live here ?

I’m not encouraging anyone to do anything. There is no scientific reason for the quarantine, it is purely political. People can make up their own minds what to do on that basis.

 

[spitfire]

I’m not encouraging anyone to do anything. There is no scientific reason for the quarantine, it is purely political. People can make up their own minds what to do on that basis.

I am surprised that you as a resident of France would not respect that . Am guessing you didn’t lockdown when asked by the government either ?
It is only good manners for visitors to a country to respect what they are asked .
I would respect whatever is asked of me in any country and have done all over the world .

 

[busby]

What about travel insurance then? As I understand it the FO has told UK rsidents not to travel "abroad" UFN, which then negates your travel insurance.

Or, of course, you may not bother with travel insurance..............................

E111 ? Still valid.BUSBY.

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[busby]

ok, so you wont be covered for your travel insurance.

E111,,,? BUSBY.

 

[Barclaybasher]

I am surprised that you as a resident of France would not respect that . Am guessing you didn’t lockdown when asked by the government either ?
It is only good manners for visitors to a country to respect what they are asked .
I would respect whatever is asked of me in any country and have done all over the world .

I am surprised, no amazed, that so many could be controlled by so few..

 

[DBK]

I’m not encouraging anyone to do anything. There is no scientific reason for the quarantine, it is purely political. People can make up their own minds what to do on that basis.

I'm not sure about that. The daily death rate in the UK is in the hundreds and as I understand it the rate in France is in the tens.

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[klaatu]

Am guessing you didn’t lockdown when asked by the government either ?

From me stating the facts about the voluntary quarantine, you accuse me of breaking the lockdown law? That’s quite a leap, and perhaps defamatory.

 

[Barclaybasher]

I'm not sure about that. The daily death rate in the UK is in the hundreds and as I understand it the rate in France is in the tens.

Really?

And I mean REALLY ?

 

[klaatu]

I'm not sure about that. The daily death rate in the UK is in the hundreds and as I understand it the rate in France is in the tens.

John, the quarantine is purely political. The way you can tell is that the single condition required for the French quarantine of the UK to end, is for the UK quarantine of the French to end.

And I don’t think the real figures between the UK and France are so different, no-one really knows. The French stats have been all over the place just recently, sometimes including care homes, sometimes not.

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[MisterB]

We will see some of you on the other side then ....... we have been booked for 1620 on the 15th for quite some time now and have spent a few hours restocking the motorhome.

oh, and the answer to the original posters questions is YES, if you are allowed to travel to somewhere where you can catch a ferry or train then you can enter without paperwork, or demonstrating you are 'allowed in' !! you may be asked to observe a 14 day period of quarantine if travelling from the UK, which is something i will honestly try to keep to as our trip is just to unload lots of 'stuff' and set up 4 mobile homes ready for the summer and then return back on or around the 29th - just in time for the UK quarantine to be removed (and thats looking more and more likely) and we will be observing social distancing rules at ALL times !!

 

[Snowbird]

We will see some of you on the other side then ....... we have been booked for 1620 on the 15th for quite some time now and have spent a few hours restocking the motorhome.

oh, and the answer to the original posters questions is YES, if you are allowed to travel to somewhere where you can catch a ferry or train then you can enter without paperwork, or demonstrating you are 'allowed in' !! you may be asked to observe a 14 day period of quarantine if travelling from the UK, which is something i will honestly try to keep to as our trip is just to unload lots of 'stuff' and set up 4 mobile homes ready for the summer and then return back on or around the 29th - just in time for the UK quarantine to be removed (and thats looking more and more likely) and we will be observing social distancing rules at ALL times !!

So am I to believe you have business interests in France with a mobile home rental business ?. If so this could be construed by French immigration as a good reason to be allowed into France. It just maybe a different story for a tourist to rock up in a motorhome wanting to trundle around willy nilly with no good reason to be there other than he wants some decent Camembert.

 

[MisterB]

I wish !! No, my two daughters have Van's on the same site as us, actually right next to each other even though we all bought ar different times. Plus I also help out an Irish friend who is recovering from major heart surgery.

I set them up for the year then close them all down again afterwards, it's a 'dad' thing apparently, it so they all keep telling me ..

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