MOT Certificate!!!

[Brakers]

Hi there
I’m off to Spain in January and I’m just getting the paperwork ready. I had my service and MOT done in November this year, and checking through the paperwork there is no MOT certificate.

I phoned Adams Morey up and they said they don’t issue one as it’s all on line. I already knew that but was under the impression you need a document to show the authorities that the vehicle is road worthy or it was at the time of inspection, they did issue one last year so it must of stopped in the last 12 months.
So what do you good people think on this, should I print of the web page which shows my next MOT date or just show the authorities the web page online.
Best Wishes Tony

 

[PhilandMena]

Take a copy of the web page. I have yet to be asked for any documents when visiting Spain other than passport if staying at campsite. I would think your vehicle doc's would only be checked if involved in an accident and a simple check on the DVLA website will show your M.O.T. status.

 

[David and Sally]

I think you can print a copy off. Also, the dealer should provide one if you ask.

 

[simbadog]

I got one with my new MOT this week!

 

[Brakers]

I think you can print a copy off. Also, the dealer should provide one if you ask.

I Did ask and they shrugged me off. I might have to phone them back and insist

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[David and Sally]

Check it online and print the page off. I would also push the dealer. I can't see why they are being awkward - it's only a piece of paper.

 

[Two on Tour]

Got a paper copy when I got our MOT in October.

You can print one off using this link.

https://www.gov.uk/replacing-lost-damaged-mot-certificate

 

[Brakers]

You can print one of using this link.

Sorted thanks for that, printed one off, but I still think the garage should of provided one, rather than me having to print one. But hey ho we got there. Best Wishes Tony

 

[Zigisla]

I have only just had MOT from ADAMS moray and received certificate as Two on Tour above.

 

[Brakers]

I have only just had MOT from ADAMS moray and received certificate as @Two on Tour above.

I just think they were being awkward and the person I talked to, it was just to much trouble to print one of and send it to me. Best Wishes Tony

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[nicholsong]

I just think they were being awkward and the person I talked to, it was just to much trouble to print one of and send it to me. Best Wishes Tony

I think you might be right.

I had one issued on 1.08.2019

It may be because I had a 'Fail' 3 days earlier.
Or because they know I come from Poland and need a paper one
Or because they are just a nice bunch to deal with.

I would not fancy telling Police or other Authorities in other countries - 'You can access it on-line' - I want a paper one.

I would be inclined to ring the boss of the company and ask if they will issue a paper certificate in future or whether they would like me to take my business elsewhere.

Geoff

 

[tonyidle]

Sorted thanks for that, printed one off, but I still think the garage should of provided one, rather than me having to print one. But hey ho we got there. Best Wishes Tony

The MoT Certificate used to be a 'proper' serial-numbered official document. As such it was of value to the less-than-honest and the MoT Centre had to maintain an approved safe to store the blanks. Your garage is correct - there is now no such document. The database holds the definitive record and you can print off copies as required. Seems a simpler system to me. Most people will neither want nor need one.

 

[Deneb]

Although test stations may issue a printed "certificate", it's not worth the paper it's printed on other than as information for the vehicle owner. No enforcement officer will take it at face value. They are very easily forged or falsified and the online information is taken as the definitive status. Hence why they are a printed sheet of plain white paper without the anti-forgery measures printed on the old certificates prior to computerisation.

 

[Spriddler]

Odd innit, that you need to show a piece of paper, since the MOT test result is only valid at the time of issue. Still, I suppose it does show that the vehicle was o.k. up to a year ago.

 

[Jaws]

DVSA guide lines say that if requested, a paper copy must be supplied ( this as of October 31st this year, so the same as previous years and not been changed )

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[vin0114]

When I asked Marquis where was the MOT cert' for the test carried out by them that morning I was told the same thing 'everything is done on line now' I was surprised when opening the moho glove box that there it was duly signed by the tester.

 

[nicholsong]

Although test stations may issue a printed "certificate", it's not worth the paper it's printed on other than as information for the vehicle owner. No enforcement officer will take it at face value. They are very easily forged or falsified and the online information is taken as the definitive status. Hence why they are a printed sheet of plain white paper without the anti-forgery measures printed on the old certificates prior to computerisation.

So what is the remedy for us if a foreign policeman says he will not accept it, because it has no serial number and no anti-forgery measures.

What are other countries certificates like?

Geoff

 

[nicholsong]

When I asked Marquis where was the MOT cert' for the test carried out by them that morning I was told the same thing 'everything is done on line now' I was surprised when opening the moho glove box that there it was duly signed by the tester.

Never try to join a MH Salesman and the truth.

How does the Tester sign it on-line?

 

[Jaws]

So what is the remedy for us if a foreign policeman says he will not accept it, because it has no serial number and no anti-forgery measures.

What are other countries certificates like?

Geoff

Will not happen.
The 'new' MOTs have been around several years now and in this digital age if a foreign plod was not happy he would know to call up on the radio and have a check done on the vehicle reg on the brit database

 

[Geoff185]

Always been given a paper copy on all the cars I get mot'd

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[Odd-no-more]

When I changed the registration number on the car they did not send an updated certificate with the log book, when I went on line to find last years mot, it had the new reg no on it, not the one that was on when the test was done.

 

[Badknee]

So what is the remedy for us if a foreign policeman says he will not accept it, because it has no serial number and no anti-forgery measures.

What are other countries certificates like?

Geoff

Here in Spain there should be a sticker on the windscreen.

 

[PeteH]

Can`t speak for anyone else, but my experience Circa 2006(ish) when stoped by the Guardia, was that they asked for "papers" and then gave them a brief look. I doubt very much that they had ANY idea what they where looking at. I suspect it could have been a copy of the SUN front page?. I used to only carry copies anyway. My experience from earlier in getting new stuff issued, after the originals had been destroyed. was a Marathon event for DVLA!. and took months!

IMO. You will be very unlucky to be given hassle over it. Like all Police they usually have only 2 speeds, Slap the wrist. Or throw you in the Paddy waggon. I was warned, many years ago if a copper fines you (some can) pay up, It`s part of his earnings. In India, it used to be that a $10 (even 10 rupee) note in the passport or whatever, was the answer to almost anything?.

 

[Spriddler]

Never try to join a MH Salesman and the truth.

My thoughts exactly! I expect it's part of their standard procedure to stick a new certificate in the vehicle when they put on the temporary polythene seat covers.
I've been taking my 60, 70 and one 94 year old motorbikes to the same guy for 30 years. He is a biker and obviously realises that the brakes, lights and suspension etc. on all of them are nothing like today's. He knows that I am meticulous about safety and maintenance and sees from the certs that they are well used, 6 or 7000 miles a year. One has acetylene lights, girder forks, and hand gear change.
He just rides them around the block (just for the fun I suspect) and when he comes back says: "If you're prepared to ride it I'm prepared to pass it", then we chat whilst waiting for the obligatory 20 minutes or so before the computer will allow him to finalise the 'test'. All are now exempt from MOT but I still take 'em round to him.

 

[Riverbankannie]

We take our cars abroad and both are exempt from MOT. Have yet to find out what should happen if cannot produce one but I suspect nothing as anytime we have been stopped by police in France, they just want to ask about the car and take a look around and find out why we are travelling there.

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[Deneb]

So what is the remedy for us if a foreign policeman says he will not accept it, because it has no serial number and no anti-forgery measures.

What are other countries certificates like?

Geoff

I would imagine it would be very unusual for a foreign policeman to ask to see a UK MOT. They would be more interested in registration, insurance and licensing of the driver. We were never interested in equivalent proof-of-roadworthiness-testing documents for foreign vehicles travelling in the UK. We would if necessary judge them on their condition and any defects found at the time of inspection.

A foreign police officer (or court) cannot prosecute or fine a UK motorist for failing to have an MOT certificate, because it ias only an offence in UK legislation. They can however deal with a UK vehicle for defective condition of various parts at the time it is seen on their roads.

 

[Vipar]

4years ago BMW stopped issuing them. But got ones for MH and my PHEV

 

[Silver-Fox]

I’ve always had a certificate all be it an A4 bit of paper.

Personally I would insist on one wether or not I need it.
Maybe I’m just a bit weird like that.

 

[nicholsong]

If I were to be asked to produce 'Papers' I would hand over my ring binder which contains them all, including all maintenance receipts, vehicle specifications and travel insurance etc. I suspect the policeman would get confused/bored by page 3.

 

[Mikey RV]

I always like to have the mot certificate to keep with all the service receipts etc for when one day I sell to give to the new owner.

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