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There's no grey area with regard to trailer brakes: if the trailer is over 750kg then all wheels in contact with the road must be braked. I don't think you'll find any A frame that brakes only the rear wheels of a toad.The basic facts on towing with a A frame are on this Broken Link Removed its a bit of a grey area on the brake efficiency of wheels in contact with the road you may not reach the required efficiency for the weight of what is considered to be a trailer on just the rear wheels brakes.
There's no grey area with regard to trailer brakes: if the trailer is over 750kg then all wheels in contact with the road must be braked. I don't think you'll find any A frame that brakes only the rear wheels of a toad.
I think the poll speaks for itself tbhI didn't know there was a debate about their use in the UK - I thought the problems were about Europe and Spain in particular? I must pay more attention.
Not.
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Whilst I agree with you Jim I still think that even after the 2 zillion a frame threads .. people are still confused and/or have incorrect views of the current situation in the UKIt is pretty clear that Our 'opinions' count for nothing. It's the opinion of a judge that will make them strictly 'legal' or not. Meanwhile, VOSA, DVSA the DOT (whatever) have the opinion that they are legal (which will stop any judges getting near it in the UK) but acknowledge that should a court ever get near it (why would they) that might change.
...... and a poll is going to help?Whilst I agree with you Jim I still think that even after the 2 zillion a frame threads .. people are still confused and/or have incorrect views of the current situation in the UK
Of course not .. but it does underline the different views quite starkly. . Sorry did you have a suggestion to help?...... and a poll is going to help?
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As per English common law and also the document issued by the Government as previously referred. Not that the gainsayers will take any notice, of course.Our opinions may not be valid but we are surely allowed to have them or what would be the point of a discussion or a forum on which to discuss ?
My view is they are not illegal therefore by default they are not illegal .
All the rest has been said . Not that I get into discussions on this topic though .. ..........
in fact all the brakes must work on the car being towed regardless of weight .There's no grey area with regard to trailer brakes: if the trailer is over 750kg then all wheels in contact with the road must be braked. I don't think you'll find any A frame that brakes only the rear wheels of a toad.
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But what will happen when I go on holiday if I get stopped and fined I wont be able to report back?Charlie got banned from the forum. How about a total ban on a/frame linked threads for one month too. Either some members that haven't got one are totally obsessed with this stuff or haven't a big enough garden to look after. Lets have a break.
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Charlie got banned from the forum. How about a total ban on a/frame linked threads for one month too. Either some members that haven't got one are totally obsessed with this stuff or haven't a big enough garden to look after. Lets have a break.
There's no grey area with regard to trailer brakes: if the trailer is over 750kg then all wheels in contact with the road must be braked. I don't think you'll find any A frame that brakes only the rear wheels of a toad.
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I'm new to this game. What's an A Frame?
Totally correct.in fact all the brakes must work on the car being towed regardless of weight .
if brakes are fitted they must work.
the 750kg is for unbraked trailers .
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Attached to the footbrake means all 4 wheels are braked - as I said.Em yes you do used them when on patrol ( AA ).A frame with overrun break cable you would attach to footbrake.Heavy duty .used the same for many years until going over to a chariot with brakes .
And tought they were for a disabled vehicle to tow no more than 40mph distance no more than 40 miles(AA rules to cover their rear end)then you'd get a call "do a direct Taunton to Birmingham"
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Which are exempt from any form of braking anyway.Yep your right for some reason I was thinking of the spectacle type lift.
The outfit complies with UK legislation it they would not be able to sell them.
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