Impact driver for wheel nuts

[Duck Truck]

A friend bought a 20v impact driver from Lidl last week
I though great would it shift the nuts on my Fiat motor home
The answer was NO

Can anyone recommend a rechargeable one that will

Cheers
Kev

 

[Lucky]

Presumably the problem is the high torque required to loosen the nuts?

Wouldn't the leverage of an extendable wrench not do job and without being reliant on a charged battery?

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[Duck Truck]

Hi Lucky I change all six wheels twice a year to winter and summer wheels
I have been using a breaker bar but a good torque wrench would make life easier
cheers mate for replying

 

[poppycamper]

What torque do you set your breaker bar too when retightening

 

[Duck Truck]

I torque the nuts up to the correct torque 180 000 tonnes
err sorry!!! 180n/m
lol

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[Duck Truck]

till my arms hurt

 

[Lucky]

From what I've heard one should take published Nm figures with a pinch of salt, so if you do buy again be sure you can return it without grief e.g. Amazon

 

[Maggie and Raddie]

My De Walt one works fine on wheel nuts.

 

[Two on Tour]

I carry one of these onboard and it handles the wheel nut on or van okay.

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[Duck Truck]

Hi Paul and Yvette
What body is your MO HO on please

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[Two on Tour]

Hi Paul and Yvette
What body is your MO HO on please

Peugeot Boxer

 

[Duck Truck]

the one you advise has the same n/m as the Lidl parkside one

cheers mate
as always I need to try one
thanks again
Kev

 

[pappajohn]

Hardly surprising with Lidl/Aldi.
I bought an Aldi windy gun to run on a 115psi 100ltr compressor..... Recommended min pressure 90psi.
Spins nicely unloaded but I can hold the socket and pull the trigger and all it does is expel air.

 

[monzer]

Decent impact wrenches are pricey so not really worth shelling out on if it's just for wheel nuts. Our steel erectors out on site use snap on and makita. Snap-on are probably more heavy duty.

 

[Vipar]

My Boxer recommendation is 160 I use a torque wrench. It never goes flat, and is lighter also used as a Cosh against intruders

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[tacr2man]

impact guns should only be used to loosen not tighten . that's a torque wrench job . or scaffold pole and two squeaks

 

[Carpmart]

I’m either getting old and decrepit or the wheel bolts on my twin wheel rear axle are the very tight side of ‘kin tight! Took a breaker with the four foot handle off my floor jack as an extension and my rather rotund 100kg mass to get ‘em going... going to have to get the air gun out next time...

I have tried loads of impact guns over the years and none (within a budget I was prepared to pay) have ever really been good enough.

 

[Carpmart]

the one you advise has the same n/m as the Lidl parkside one

cheers mate
as always I need to try one
thanks again
Kev

Sadly what it says on the box and what you get are probably significantly different.

 

[Raul]

I have a dewalt dcf894, and a 450nm braking force. I managed to sheer of m14 bolts with it, on a shock absorber mount. Wheels of the van are a doddle. Runs on dewalt xr18v and resides under passenger seat. I use it on the scissor jack as well, lifts the van super fast. You need quality impact sockets, the cheap Chrome vanadium gets chewed up, it will just break them.

 

[Duck Truck]

vipar yer a very naughty person

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[Duck Truck]

thanks everyone
Raul i defy it to get access to my wallet

 

[Nasher]

I bought the 240v impact driver from Lidl a couple if years ago for thirty quid

It's initial purpose was undoing the clutch baskets on my classic race motorbikes (otherwise you need a special tool for each) it worked great.
Since then, I have used it for quite a few jobs, including vehicle wheel nuts

It has performed admirably at undoing things, but for tightening I just use it to screw the nuts on and then use a torque wrench to tighten them properly

According to the manual it cuts off at 100 ft/lbs torque when tightening, but I haven't tested it

Well worth £30 and it's still working fine

 

[Bonkers the Dog]

I bought the Lidl cordless battery powered rattle gun last week, it was to do the 46mm axle nuts on my Ducati. Spun them off nae bother. It appears sturdy, well designed and has 4 settings,100, 150, 200 & 400 Nm. It also comes with a 3 year warranty so effectively it's for life, rag on it, it breaks, get a new one, all for £69.99; can't say fairer than that!

 

[tonyidle]

Hardly surprising with Lidl/Aldi.
I bought an Aldi windy gun to run on a 115psi 100ltr compressor..... Recommended min pressure 90psi.
Spins nicely unloaded but I can hold the socket and pull the trigger and all it does is expel air.

It should do that. The torque rating is determined by hammer blows against something with inertia (ie not flesh ). I can undo the final drive sprocket nut on a motorcycle with an windy gun just by holding the sprocket tightly by hand - the inertia of the sprocket & gearshaft does the rest.

 

[PeteH]

impact guns should only be used to loosen not tighten . that's a torque wrench job . or scaffold pole and two squeaks

Only 2?. The first time I took the Dual`s off the R-V. The 3/4 drive socket sheared. It was on a long extension supported on an Axle Stand. Eventually, It took a 4ft scaffold tube and a torque multiplier to get them started. God only knows who put them on, or how they calculated the "effort". I was concerned at the time that the studs may have been overstretched. Some truck Nuts are torqued in excess of 350Lb/Ft!.

Now, torquing up Cylinder head bolts on a marine engine. 1) old fashioned method, Large (24lb) hammer, Short spanner, "effort" depends on size of guy wielding said hammer. 2) Tech job? Specialised Hydraulic Kit, stretches bolt under specified pressure, nut screwed hand tight release pressure, Job done.

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[cmcardle75]

Try getting the sprocket nut off a Kawasaki ER6F. I had a 3m breaker bar fashioned from some chrome piping that exactly matched the diameters of my 910mm actual breaker bar. With someone sitting on it on the brake, my full 100kg weight on the end of the bar with my feet dangling finally managed to loosen it. Once. I make that 3000Nm. Next time I needed a new sprocket, even that wasn't enough. Had to take it to an actual mechanic. Who swore at me for five minutes when I returned. Stupid design, given the nut was done up to specified torque with a torque wrench. The Honda had a much better splined system that didn't rely on silly torques.

 

[Duck Truck]

OK guys
I have bitten the De Walt bullet
I Have a De Walt drill and decided to go
with a De Walt Impact Wrench £149 at Screw fix
made my eyes smart and my wallet clamp tight
But undid the wallet and removes the Ducatto Wheel bolts beautifully
Thanks to everyone for looking and adding comments
Anyone want to hire a Torque Wrench by the day get in touch the price won't be reasonable
I have to do a bit of recouping

 

[grey bear]

the best impact cordless gun half inch drive for van wheels is without a doubt milwaukee they run rings round all the other stuff[ snap off] included all the lads at work use them all day every day .but they aint cheap

 

[Ninjabob]

Try getting the sprocket nut off a Kawasaki ER6F. I had a 3m breaker bar fashioned from some chrome piping that exactly matched the diameters of my 910mm actual breaker bar. With someone sitting on it on the brake, my full 100kg weight on the end of the bar with my feet dangling finally managed to loosen it. Once. I make that 3000Nm. Next time I needed a new sprocket, even that wasn't enough. Had to take it to an actual mechanic. Who swore at me for five minutes when I returned. Stupid design, given the nut was done up to specified torque with a torque wrench. The Honda had a much better splined system that didn't rely on silly torques.

This is the kiddy for that job - never fails.

Clarke CEW1000 1/2" Drive 450Nm Impact Wrench (230V) - Machine Mart

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[cmcardle75]

This is the kiddy for that job - never fails.

Clarke CEW1000 1/2" Drive 450Nm Impact Wrench (230V) - Machine Mart

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Not convinced. My air impact wrench didn't come close and it is 1/6th of the torque of the breaker bar I used. I know impact helps, so you can't directly compare, but not that much! It probably does a better job than my cheap air wrench, though!

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