I think the idea he was getting at is that if you are travelling in a motorhome, disabled or not, then you should pay the appropriate charges.I wonder if you begrudge the disabled benefits?
Most would exchange their benefits in order to retain able-bodied status.
How patronizing of you to think that you and other toll road users are subsidizing the disabled! It's a government concession passed on by the toll companies and nothing to do with you!I think the idea he was getting at is that if you are travelling in a motorhome, disabled or not, then you should pay the appropriate charges.
I can understand an adapted vehicle, which may, because of it adaptions, be larger than a class 1 vehicle being charged as a class 1 vehicle but can’t understand why you would want other toll users to subsidise you when you are on holiday in a motorhome, adapted or not.
And just because I think like this, doesn’t mean I would begrudge people with disabilities getting their benefits, as you seem to suggest to others in your post.
Not patronising at all, just a view, sorry if you have a problem with other peoples views.Don
How patronizing of you to think that you and other toll road users are subsidizing the disabled! It's a government concession passed on by the toll companies and nothing to do with you!
Why? A disabled moho owner may need a larger or heavier van as a result of their disability, or indeed be unable to camp in a tent and need a moho instead of a car as a result.my reply has nothing to do with disability it is the fact that every vehicle if on the toll roads should pay the same fee.
but if they need a larger vehicle as direct result of their disability why should they be penalised for having a disability by having to pay more than they would have done if they did not have the disability? Most disability benefits are there to try and level the playing field so that the disabled person is closer to being equal to an able bodied person, rather than giving them a 'perk'.as stated it is not about disabled drivers be it moho car or truck you use the toll road you should pay the rate
if you dont want to pay the charge dont use.
You appeared to be objecting to a discount that the French government has chosen to give to disabled people, to mean that they aren't financially penalised if they have a larger vehicle as a result of their disability and wish to use toll roads like the rest of us. Apart from the fact that the subsidy is, in itself, actually very logical, the subsidy comes from general French taxation rather than it being a subsidy by other toll users, so unless you are a French tax-payer its really none of your business what the French do with their taxes - I am a French tax-payer (as well as being a british taxpayer) and I'm more than happy for my taxes to be used to support disabled people in this way - oh and for the record I'm not disabled and neither is anyone in my family - I just believe in a just societyno one is being penalised you choose to drive on toll roads you pay that going charge dont see where you are trying to go with your reply
Sorry, not meant to be rude - it was meant to counter the assertion that the disabled toll user was being subsidised by the non disabled toll user, which isn't the case, its a French tax payer decision on how French taxes are paid .Im sure your point of view is the only one that is right what about what others think as your attitude seems to be rather rude with your statement none of your business
They aren't being subsidised but providing you & me the public with goods that we require. If it was me doing the haulage & you,the public & governement, have that attitude I'd make sure that no goods were delivered & if you all want to eat & drink go & fetch it yourself.Mind you if you want to complain about subsidising I would suggest you turn your frustrations to road haulier charges which bear little relation to the relative wear and tear they cause to roads - there is lots of evidence about this, and in truth road tax, and tolls should be several thousand times higher for lorries compared to cars and vans. eg http://facweb.knowlton.ohio-state.edu/pviton/courses2/crp776/776-roads-handout.pdf
If you consider the road toll is designed to pay for the road, then lorries cause most of the wear and tear and should therefore pay the majority of the charges - in proportion to the damage they cause - each lorry causes thousands of times the wear and tear of a car for each mile it is driven. Therefore, by definition, unless a lorry pays thousands of times more road toll it is, de facto, being subsidised.They aren't being subsidised but providing you & me the public with goods that we require. If it was me doing the haulage & you,the public & governement, have that attitude I'd make sure that no goods were delivered & if you all want to eat & drink go & fetch it yourself.
Any attempt at imposing subsidies would just be added straight to the cost of the goods , anyway.