Any Air Gun enthusiasts ?

[DuxDeluxe]

Jim, are there any decent clubs that you know of around this area (I live about 20 mins from Ipswich)? Thanks

 

[DABurleigh]

I have the same pistol as you, Jim (with a telescopic sight, to boot, which may seem strange but I enjoy it) and a BSA Meteor Super .22 rifle still in good nick from my teenage years.

I feel something all children ought to be encouraged to do is kill humanely, skin and gut a rabbit. It will certainly make you appreciate where meat comes from, and probably will increase the number of vegetarians I'd eat more rabbit but Ali doesn't like it. Was disturbed to read the other day how rabbits are bred for meat in the UK in worse conditions than battery hens.

In my youth I spent many, many happy days plinking tin cans at impressive distances. When my eldest brother neared the end with bladder cancer, he reminisced on happy times in his life by, amongst other things, doing the same again.

I often think I had an underlying captivation that linked quite different hobbies and my career, and that was the concept of "action at a distance". Air guns, archery (taking that up again now with a compound target bow), amateur radio (grinning from ear to ear after chatting easily with folk in Australia and NZ with no intervening infrastructure), defence weapons, ...

Dave

 

[scotjimland]

Jim, are there any decent clubs that you know of around this area (I live about 20 mins from Ipswich)? Thanks

there is one in Felixtowe, but not a member so can't comment on it .. http://www.felixstowe-rifle-club.co.uk/

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[DuxDeluxe]

Thanks - wrong side of Ipswich unfortunately. Read this old thread with some considerable interest. There is one in Hadleigh and of course one in Colchester, so will investigate further

 

[scotjimland]

Hi Dave.. yes I agree,
Charlotte is in the Army Cadets and gets to do more shooting than me.. and with a proper rifle.. she is away again this weekend with the cadets for two days of 'fun' at the Thetford training camp.. .. odd for such a girlie girl to enjoy such male pursuits.. only yesterday we were building sandcastles.. now she wants to join the Army..


David.. I went to the one in Colchester when we lived there.. it is excellent.. they have a woodland area and a circuit to go round and shoot at targets hiden in trees .. also a training area for sighting up and practicing ..

 

[JayDee]

Here is a link to a map that shows air rifle clubs in UK and Europe.

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112142807175534929647.00045e31fb75cceda1318&ll=55.053203,-1.757812&spn=9.638755,33.815918&t=h&z=6&dg=feature

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[scotjimland]

Useful site .. thanks

found the club I went to in Colchester http://www.iceni-marksmen.co.uk/

 

[DuxDeluxe]

Hi Dave.. yes I agree,
Charlotte is in the Army Cadets and gets to do more shooting than me.. and with a proper rifle.. she is away again this weekend with the cadets for two days of 'fun' at the Thetford training camp.. .. odd for such a girlie girl to enjoy such male pursuits.. only yesterday we were building sandcastles.. now she wants to join the Army..


David.. I went to the one in Colchester when we lived there.. it is excellent.. they have a woodland area and a circuit to go round and shoot at targets hiden in trees .. also a training area for sighting up and practicing ..

Thanks Jim, quite happy to travel a bit for better experience. A bit like sailing - live near Stoke by Nayland but sailed for years at Waldringfield SC just for the high quality of the racing - still the most competitive wayfarer fleet in the country

 

[ABZSteve]

I have a Gat, a G10 repeater and a Desert Eagle Airsoft repeater. Bought them years ago for target practice fun while out on long distance walking (something to do when camping overnight). Not really that good but OK for knocking over tin cans at short distances.

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[SuperMike]

Any half way decent .177, set up properly, will shoot better than you can. No.2 son can hit a golf ball, without a scope, at 50m almost every time, standing, and a rabbits head at a much greater distance, prone. Not me, my eyes aren't that good any more. Therefore it follows there is no possible reason to increase the power of any air rifle, to do so would be very, very foolish. Any recommendations or advise on how to do so is just irresponsibly stupid.

Further the advice to crono the rifle down a little to account for different pellets is very good. Remember, the manufacturer will have set the rifle up using a particular pellet, which should be on the report, if bought new. Anything else can be very different.

Join a club and be taught how to shoot, responsibly and safely. Remember that these things can kill, up to about a mile. Squeeze the trigger and you are responsible for the projectile and the consequences should be enought to make you cr*p yourself. If the thought that you are holding something that has that ability, does not focus your mind, then air rifle shooting is not for you.

Further, wherever you shoot, never do it without the landowners permission in writing, even if he is your very bestest mate.

Having said all that, it is great fun and a discipline that takes a lot of practice. But highly recommended.

SuperMike.
Scouts Air Gun Instructor.

PS, Scouts only ever shoot target.

 

[jonandshell]

Good advice, but I dispute the fact that an air rifle pellet will carry enough energy to even reach a mile, let alone kill at that range.
There have been a couple or documented cases of a .22 rimfire round causing death at that range but they have at least 10 times the muzzle energy and a ballistically superior 40 grain bullet.
Don't wish to get into conflict here, just don't want to give the antis false ammunition.

NRA Range Conducting Officer.

 

[DuxDeluxe]

Thanks Mike, useful and sensible information

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[Lisa]

I shoot both small bore and fullbore disciplines but have a hankering for a CO2 pistol!
I reckon a CO2 pistol could be a great addition to a Practical Mini Rifle course of fire to make it a 2 gun match.

If anyone in West Norfolk is interested in getting into shooting, just google Kings Lynn St Michaels Rifle and Pistol Club.

http://www.kingslynnstmichaels.org

There is a local airgun club and field archery club too for those who wish to wear tights!

Hi Jon, you should have spoken to Julian about Guns. He's got a few!

 

[jonandshell]

Hi Jon, you should have spoken to Julian about Guns. He's got a few!

Is he in the Grove?

 

[Lisa]

Jim, are there any decent clubs that you know of around this area (I live about 20 mins from Ipswich)? Thanks

There's High Lodge for tuition for clay shooting? http://highlodge.co.uk/activities/clay-pigeon-shooting/

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[Lisa]

Is he in the Grove?

He is…..how do you know that?

He belongs to the Grove but shoots in Horsford.

 

[jonandshell]

Just joined myself for use of Horsford, Barton Road and Practical Shotgun!
My 'home' club is KLSM.

 

[Lisa]

Well I guess you will be seeing him there….

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[DuxDeluxe]

There's High Lodge for tuition for clay shooting? http://highlodge.co.uk/activities/clay-pigeon-shooting/

Can't shoot a shotgun........ Couldn't get on with them..... Thanks anyway

 

[Lisa]

Can't shoot a shotgun........ Couldn't get on with them..... Thanks anyway

Delicate shoulders?

 

[DuxDeluxe]

Delicate shoulders?

Couldn't bloody hit anything, since you ask prefer something a bit smaller and always enjoyed target shooting in the past

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[jonandshell]

Delicate shoulders?

You can fit a muzzle brake to shotguns and rifles. They reduce felt recoil by directing muzzle blast rearwards, propelling the gun forwards as you fire. This reduces recoil considerably.
The shooters either side of you tend to end the day with a slight concussion though!!!

 

[Chockswahay]

Just been reading through this thread, I still have my old BSA Meteor .22 in the garage (circa 1974) but it has seen better days.....

After catching and eating fish in Norway this year I quite fancy the idea of 'wild meat'.......

I am a good shot although I always did prefer telescopic sights when plinking. Can anyone give some advice please as to what to buy for shooting rabbits? I have always thought .22 better than .177 but that might be because 'bigger was better' when I was a teenager

I would like something that is accurate over 20 to 30 metres with enough killing power to ensure a clean and humane kill.

Lastly, are air shotguns any good?

 

[SuperMike]

Good advice, but I dispute the fact that an air rifle pellet will carry enough energy to even reach a mile, let alone kill at that range.

NRA Range Conducting Officer.

Under normal circumstances Jon you are of course correct.

But as ever all things are possible under silly circumstances. I have heard a pellet, many times, crack the sound barrier shortly after leaving the barrel and with the wind behind it can travel further than people sometimes think. I have never been involved in any sort of shooting accident, thank god, but during my training I was told (frightened probably), that it once happened when the shooter was firing up a hill, without knowing what was on the other side of said hill. At about the range of a mile ishhhhhhh, as it came down, and probably, with very little velocity left in it, struck a mans face and killed him.

Possibly, like gas attacks, it's a bit ott, but I always use the tale to grind into people, scouts and their parents alike, that these things are not toys and are bl**dy dangerouse. Scouts are classic for holding the business end of the barrel under their mouths and doing a John Wayne, as we call it. Blowing across it. Any Scout caught doing that sits out for the whole evening, even though he has fired a single shot pistol and it is empty and harmless. It's the principle. But then as an RO you know the rules better than me.

When dealing with kiddies I lay it on very thick and lets face it, most of the menbers on here are big kids. Particularly the VerOldMoIceCreamInternetMan.

Have you ever been at Bisley Oct/Nov time when the Scouts have their shooting competition. Hundereds of mummys little beauties. Super fun.

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[DuxDeluxe]

.........and precisely why I am joining a club.........

 

[jonandshell]

Hi Mike, fully understood! Didnt want to cauae offence! It can be quite hard to teach respect for firearms to kids and adults who have watched too many films and played too many computer games before their shooting career!
Unlike Medal of Honor, you definitely don't get a second go with a lump of lead in your skull!
I won't be down Bisley until the New Year. Should be catching the tail end of the CSR winter league.
Our big lads outing occurs during the Imperial Meeting at the end or June/beginning of July.
Hats off to you for volunteering and keeping some young lives on track! You should compare notes with Bill the drill sometime, he runs an independant cadet unit.
My contribution goes as far as sitting on the commitee, organising club events and occasional coaching. There aren't many youngsters who come into shooting unless with parental persuasion, so its important to encourage them and ensure they don't get bored.
A couple have even taken their skills with them into the forces. They return on leave to upset the results of club competitions!

 

[musson]

Hi Jim
I have air arms s 510 177 ,Ripley XL9,old webley with interchangeable barrel 22/177.
Made a night vision out on sony nightshot and night hunter 500IR
shoot rabbits mainly
Paul

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[jonandshell]

I always shot .177 in my air rifle hunting days. A Weihrauch HW35 with Bushnell 4x32 scope.
I always favoured the flatter trajectory over .22.

The bunnies never knew the difference!

 

[Kool Kroozer]

I have a Weihrauch .22 bought it last year for shooting the pigeons, haven't used a tin of pellets yet - lovely rifle and do not miss much with it, shame i don't get to use it more often

 

[Allanm]

I always shot .177 in my air rifle hunting days. A Weihrauch HW35 with Bushnell 4x32 scope.
I always favoured the flatter trajectory over .22.

The bunnies never knew the difference!

That was my last air rifle, but with a single point sight. I haven't shot one for about 20 years, it's all shotguns round here now.
Allan

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