Motorhome owners lash out at Devon 'ban' proposal (2 Viewers)

[ShiftZZ]

Motorhome owners lash out at Devon 'ban' proposal

“Staycation is not going to go away"

www.devonlive.com

Interesting video, wall to wall FLT

 

[Diabalo]

Beyond belief how many are parked up, no wonder people are up in arms.

 

[Gellyneck]

Don't know what time of day this was videoed but this is what the signs say.

But a number of them (motorhomes \ campervans) had their blinds closed.
Saw something similar back in 2013 but not quite as bad.
And we wonder why some local communities get brassed off!

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[Swifter]

Very few motorhomes but lots of “ vans with windows “

 

[Otter Spotter]

Not condoning the wall to wall parking, but it only take a van to park up next to the sign and then other racking up will see it and most will not make the effort to look for parking signs, thinking ‘well everyone else is parked, we will be OK’ not goo.

 

[Otter Spotter]

Very few motorhomes but lots of “ vans with windows “

And loads of those pop roofed VWs hope they didn’t have tables and chairs out

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[eddie]

A lot of pee and poo

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

The sign infers it is ok unless you are likely to cause a breach of the peace.

 

[Trout bum]

If we don't respect these signs in car parks we only have ourselves to blame,my big worry is the smaller vans with no facilities just emptying their waste and toilet wherever they want to , I challenged a couple of guys in a campervan just about to do that in Glencoe park up , I took a photo of van and registration told them I was calling the police , they moved on but would have done same thing at there new park up , please don't leave anything but tyre marks , or we won't have these park up places for much longer .

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[Manic]

I would think most of them are Surfers and will just find somewhere else to park.

 

[SuperMike]

If they had jigged up a bit then a few more could have parked up.

 

[ManTheVan]

There are also many many cars parked.

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[EzeeRider]

Think of the money the council could make charging them for overnight parking.
ezee

 

[The Old Man]

Overnight stays are prohibited on the Parade and on most parking places in that are that area.

What I do not understand, if the Council and the Parking Enforcement Officers are not keep the ticketing up to date, persuing non payers and then impounding vehicles, as is their right unde the By Laws, what is the point of a new law?

I suspect that it will move from a Civil Offence and the responsibility of the Council to enforce and make it a Police enforcement matter.

 

[Gellyneck]

Not condoning the wall to wall parking, but it only take a van to park up next to the sign and then other racking up will see it and most will not make the effort to look for parking signs, thinking ‘well everyone else is parked, we will be OK’ not goo.

More than one sign along the road.

There are also many many cars parked.

Residents from the other side of the road which has double yellow lines.

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[gus-lopez]

Don't know what time of day this was videoed but this is what the signs say.

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But a number of them (motorhomes \ campervans) had their blinds closed.
Saw something similar back in 2013 but not quite as bad.
And we wonder why some local communities get brassed off!

Neither of those signs appear to ban anything between 9pm & 8 am?

 

[funflair]

Neither of those signs appear to ban anything between 9pm & 8 am?

What about Sleeping, Cooking, Camping and Personal ablutions which seem to be PROHIBITED at any time to me

 

[Gellyneck]

What about Sleeping, Cooking, Camping and Personal ablutions which seem to be PROHIBITED at any time to me

Think the question is around "likely to cause a breach of the peace"

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[funflair]

Think the question is around "likely to cause a breach of the peace"

That's just another category to add to Cooking, Camping and Personal ablutions,

 

[Otter Spotter]

That's just another category to add to Cooking, Camping and Personal ablutions,

Does that domestics in the van not allowed

 

[Mrsambulancekidd]

I don't see the attraction to parking up like that.

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[Otter Spotter]

I don't see the attraction to parking up like that.

Saves their little legs and money

 

[TheTwoOfUs]

"Explaining why campsites are unsuitable for motorhomes, she said that they are usually made up of grass pitches, which are unsuitable to the weights of motorhomes, they are usually some way from the facilities needed by motorhomers - pubs, restaurants, cafes, shops etc which are usually closed between October and Easter - when the majority of motorhomers want to be on the road, motorhomers don’t want or need the facilities provided by campsites - toilet blocks, showers, entertainment, bars etc, and motorhomers don’t “camp”, since all activities take place within the vehicle, they park."

So do they or don't they want them?

 

[Speve]

"Explaining why campsites are unsuitable for motorhomes, she said that they are usually made up of grass pitches, which are unsuitable to the weights of motorhomes, they are usually some way from the facilities needed by motorhomers - pubs, restaurants, cafes, shops etc which are usually closed between October and Easter - when the majority of motorhomers want to be on the road, motorhomers don’t want or need the facilities provided by campsites - toilet blocks, showers, entertainment, bars etc, and motorhomers don’t “camp”, since all activities take place within the vehicle, they park."

So do they or don't they want them?

I think she says we want to be near pubs, restaurants, cafes and shops etc
but don’t need campsite facilities like shower blocks and on site entertainment,bars etc.
must admit it is not very well put together
but at least trying to make the point

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[mitzimad]

i think the point is most motorhomes especially the small one dont want to go on a site miles from everything thats catering for caravan families

 

[IanFraser]

Don't know what time of day this was videoed but this is what the signs say.

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But a number of them (motorhomes \ campervans) had their blinds closed.
Saw something similar back in 2013 but not quite as bad.
And we wonder why some local communities get brassed off!

They’ve got the signage, rather than be up in arms why aren’t they ticketing the offenders ie. those parked between 9 pm on & 8 am and enforcing whatever the fines are? If everyone knows they are doing it then they won’t park there. In St. Andrews they plaster your vans with notices telling you they’ll fine you before you even think about overnighting where you shouldn’t!!

 

[VXman]

Don't know what time of day this was videoed but this is what the signs say.

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But a number of them (motorhomes \ campervans) had their blinds closed.
Saw something similar back in 2013 but not quite as bad.
And we wonder why some local communities get brassed off!

Doesn't that sign apply to the car park behind it not necessarily the road?

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[Gellyneck]

Nope, there's a number of them along the road.

 

[cornish boy]

They’ve got the signage, rather than be up in arms why aren’t they ticketing the offenders ie. those parked between 9 pm on & 8 am and enforcing whatever the fines are? If everyone knows they are doing it then they won’t park there. In St. Andrews they plaster your vans with notices telling you they’ll fine you before you even think about overnighting where you shouldn’t!!

I agree, the councils should just crack on with throwing tickets on each and every one of them and ensuring they ruthlessly collect the substancial penalties due, even if that means impounding vehicles. Until the % of owners that think the rules do not apply to them feel some significant financial pain, they will just carry on their selfish behaviour.

I know not all will agree, but if the only place to park legally overnight in an area is on a campsite, then either pay the money and use the campsite, or start the engine and drive to a different area that provides legal parking of the type you desire.

 

[The general]

Worked in Aberystwyth , yrs ago campers parked along esplanade for days on end , banned overnite , but for a nominal fee you can park overnite down near the lifeboat station no problem , it’s works .

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