Surely if that is the case (original post)same will apply to all foreign people coming to drive in our country--same problems for them?
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Surely if that is the case (original post)same will apply to all foreign people coming to drive in our country--same problems for them?
Thought that was the reason we were leaving the EU ?I don't think that is the case Chris. I'm wondering is the Great Repeal Bill covers things like this, but only one way of course?
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not relying on being helped by the EU.
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but we voted to leave and leave means being like the other countries in the world that arent in the eu.We all voted for a better UK.
Just a pity it won't be delivered.
Independent and alone not relying on being helped by the EU.
Why get uptight when we are treated the same as any other non EU country with no treaties in place.
Once we have fully left then we can start to make agreements with the EU to get slowly back in as we will all realise the grass is not greener alone.
Its difficult trying to deal with spiteful puerile people , when any pragmatic , and reasonable person would acknowledge that certain mutually beneficial agreements irrelevant to trade should continue as it has worked for the last 40 years. I bet they would still like to access DVLA for fine collection info ?We all voted for a better UK.
Just a pity it won't be delivered.
Independent and alone not relying on being helped by the EU.
Why get uptight when we are treated the same as any other non EU country with no treaties in place.
Once we have fully left then we can start to make agreements with the EU to get slowly back in as we will all realise the grass is not greener alone.
I've no idea how to get one though so we don't all know ... I love my pink paper one!
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I've no idea how to get one though so we don't all know ... I love my pink paper one!
.I'm sorry if this reply is too "Brexit" for this particular forum, but I can't let the comments above pass without comment.
The reactions here (e.g. ..."petty spitefulness the EU comes up with to try and "punish" can be reciprocated right back at them". Or: "Another example as to why we actually need to get out of the EU, robbing, spiteful politics.") to this piece of news show to me how "Quitters" (how I'm henceforth denoting brexiteers) take any opportunity to bitterly accuse the EU of heinous treachery when in fact it is nothing of the sort.
What on earth do you expect? You leave the club and again demand that your membership benefits remain? A NON-EU British licence cannot be expected to be equivalent to an EU licence - especially when it will no longer be aligned to legislation required to be compliant. It really is simple logic, not "retribution": NON-EU <> EU.
Of course, needing to procure an IDP and additional insurance is not the end of the world, but it is just another straw on our backs. As we progress on this route, try to keep count of all the "trivial" burdens which will pile on us. Still not the end of the world, but life will unnecessarily become less smooth.
Further, it becoming more obvious to me that the move to exit the EU is driven by forces unaligned to the good of "the people".
As an example, I am predicting that, after we leave, our vehicle insurance which currently covers us for all the countries in the EU, will require additional premiums - and probably for each country.
Watch how vehicle breakdown costs will rise, and health insurance. The risks, of course, remain equivalent, but - we have to feed the beast!
My driving licence ,seemed quite Ok in Australia, South Africa, Singapore etc etc
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I'm sorry if this reply is too "Brexit" for this particular forum, but I can't let the comments above pass without comment.
The reactions here (e.g. ..."petty spitefulness the EU comes up with to try and "punish" can be reciprocated right back at them". Or: "Another example as to why we actually need to get out of the EU, robbing, spiteful politics.") to this piece of news show to me how "Quitters" (how I'm henceforth denoting brexiteers) take any opportunity to bitterly accuse the EU of heinous treachery when in fact it is nothing of the sort.
What on earth do you expect? You leave the club and again demand that your membership benefits remain? A NON-EU British licence cannot be expected to be equivalent to an EU licence - especially when it will no longer be aligned to legislation required to be compliant. It really is simple logic, not "retribution": NON-EU <> EU.
Of course, needing to procure an IDP and additional insurance is not the end of the world, but it is just another straw on our backs. As we progress on this route, try to keep count of all the "trivial" burdens which will pile on us. Still not the end of the world, but life will unnecessarily become less smooth.
Further, it becoming more obvious to me that the move to exit the EU is driven by forces unaligned to the good of "the people".
As an example, I am predicting that, after we leave, our vehicle insurance which currently covers us for all the countries in the EU, will require additional premiums - and probably for each country.
Watch how vehicle breakdown costs will rise, and health insurance. The risks, of course, remain equivalent, but - we have to feed the beast!
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My Licience was changed to accommodate EU regulation when we joined, it will be exactly the same when we leave!!Steady on folks.
All the article is highlighiting is that european regulation confirming which driving licences are valid will no longer apply once we leave . There will be consequences on GB Drivers ......unless the withdrawel agreement covers the situation. So all the agreement needs to say is that GB licences are valid and recognised.
Plus around 300,000 other regs that will need agreeing such as importing radioactive isotopes for cancer treatment etc etc etc
That,s why 8000 extra civil servants have been taken on.
No problem really as we knew all this when the country voted to leave the club..............?
Can’t really see a problem with having to get a visa etc ,what has come to light is how bitter the eu is ,democracy is not their forte.Nobody knows how this going to play out in the future . Will we need a UK passport and driving licence and green card and visa before we are allowed to enter Europe is anyone guess .
As said we are now beginning to see the hostile separation .
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but base all thoughts on the very minimum we might have . then anything better is a bonus .Nobody knows how this going to play out in the future . Will we need a UK passport and driving licence and green card and visa before we are allowed to enter Europe is anyone guess .
As said we are now beginning to see the hostile separation .
from the day we leave i should imagine .The same for number plates at the moment we use Euro plates that can only be used by member states so when we leave they will be illegal in Europe .
How long before we see fines being issued for illegal number plates in EU members states . Back to normal plates and GB stickers .
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They have decided on the important bit....the EU related ECHR legislation is out from day one of real Brexit. The European crims right to Stay because they have a cat in the UK should be gone....
I'm sorry if this reply is too "Brexit" for this particular forum, but I can't let the comments above pass without comment.
The reactions here (e.g. ..."petty spitefulness the EU comes up with to try and "punish" can be reciprocated right back at them". Or: "Another example as to why we actually need to get out of the EU, robbing, spiteful politics.") to this piece of news show to me how "Quitters" (how I'm henceforth denoting brexiteers) take any opportunity to bitterly accuse the EU of heinous treachery when in fact it is nothing of the sort.
What on earth do you expect? You leave the club and again demand that your membership benefits remain? A NON-EU British licence cannot be expected to be equivalent to an EU licence - especially when it will no longer be aligned to legislation required to be compliant. It really is simple logic, not "retribution": NON-EU <> EU.
Of course, needing to procure an IDP and additional insurance is not the end of the world, but it is just another straw on our backs. As we progress on this route, try to keep count of all the "trivial" burdens which will pile on us. Still not the end of the world, but life will unnecessarily become less smooth.
Further, it becoming more obvious to me that the move to exit the EU is driven by forces unaligned to the good of "the people".
As an example, I am predicting that, after we leave, our vehicle insurance which currently covers us for all the countries in the EU, will require additional premiums - and probably for each country.
Watch how vehicle breakdown costs will rise, and health insurance. The risks, of course, remain equivalent, but - we have to feed the beast!
thats exactly right . it was what we voted for . only the daft thought different .I'm sorry if this reply is too "Brexit" for this particular forum, but I can't let the comments above pass without comment.
The reactions here (e.g. ..."petty spitefulness the EU comes up with to try and "punish" can be reciprocated right back at them". Or: "Another example as to why we actually need to get out of the EU, robbing, spiteful politics.") to this piece of news show to me how "Quitters" (how I'm henceforth denoting brexiteers) take any opportunity to bitterly accuse the EU of heinous treachery when in fact it is nothing of the sort.
What on earth do you expect? You leave the club and again demand that your membership benefits remain? A NON-EU British licence cannot be expected to be equivalent to an EU licence - especially when it will no longer be aligned to legislation required to be compliant. It really is simple logic, not "retribution": NON-EU <> EU.
Of course, needing to procure an IDP and additional insurance is not the end of the world, but it is just another straw on our backs. As we progress on this route, try to keep count of all the "trivial" burdens which will pile on us. Still not the end of the world, but life will unnecessarily become less smooth.
Further, it becoming more obvious to me that the move to exit the EU is driven by forces unaligned to the good of "the people".
As an example, I am predicting that, after we leave, our vehicle insurance which currently covers us for all the countries in the EU, will require additional premiums - and probably for each country.
Watch how vehicle breakdown costs will rise, and health insurance. The risks, of course, remain equivalent, but - we have to feed the beast!
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All the time the eu put up barriers at every opportunity what do you expect.The fundamental problem we all have is that nearly 2 years after the vote sensible or not our glorious government still seems to have no real idea where we are actually going with this. We have apparently made agreements on the divorce bill which are unsustainable according to our trade plans. We still waffle on with no clear objective, no plan or even a unified idea within cabinet. Is it surprising that all sorts of every day items like this have no answer.
At our present rate of progress it seems we will need a 20 years transition period.
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And must be, as soon as they begin any stupid, spiteful games.
Like for like is an absolute must, not an option.
When Barnier and Co. come up with "punishments" our negotiator should be agreeing to them, making it clear that all "punishments" WILL work both ways.
Most of this shit is part of the not yet dead "project fear".
The same for number plates at the moment we use Euro plates that can only be used by member states so when we leave they will be illegal in Europe .
How long before we see fines being issued for illegal number plates in EU members states . Back to normal plates and GB stickers .
Hang on folks.
We are on page 3 and as far as I can see the whole discussion about UK licences has revolved around the EU.
UK, along with many other countries, were parties to various International Treaties (Vienna etc.) on access of vehicles and Driving Licences long before the EEC/EU existed. Those Treaties are still in force, and will be after Brexit and after the EU.
As far as I can see the only problem may be the format of the licences, since the Treaties referred to the then paper licences. The UK adopted the plastic format which does indeed conform to the EU format.
However, I am sure arrangements are in place fo UK plastic licences to be accepted in non-EU States which are Signatories to the various Treaties, i.e. some of the Balkan countries.
If Treaty Signatories accept the UK plastic licence, whether UK is in or out of the EU, then what is the problem?
I think the Guardian article might have been barking up the wrong tree, ignoring the Treaties.
Geoff
Then it will be all downhill as we go down the no imports to the UK or exports out, No flights over EU airspace ,no ferry, tunnel etc; etc;This is why I don't quite get these "negotiations"
We import more from the EU than we export, so if they want to put tariffs on our exports we can reciprocate.
This will give us a net gain, whats not to like?
Then it will be all downhill as we go down the no imports to the UK or exports out, No flights over EU airspace ,no ferry, tunnel etc; etc;
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