walter senior
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can some one tell me what the weight of my 1991 Talbot express1500d is as kerb weight. the weights I have are 3100kg. 4500kg. 1-1550kg. 2-1700kg. thanks . Walter.
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Not reallyThe only weight you need to know is when it’s fully loaded and that means a trip to the weigh bridge, hopefully it will be no more than 3100kg
The only weight you need to know is when it’s fully loaded and that means a trip to the weigh bridge, hopefully it will be no more than 3100kg
Unladen weight is the dry weight of the vehicle.Unladen weight is the same but add 75kg driver, 90% fuel, water and a gas bottle....
EVERYTHING added after that is payload Inc towbar, sat dish, solar panel, awning etc
WrongThe only way you'll get a true kerb/curb? weight is remove EVERYTHING not fixed down including yourself, empty all tanks and visit a weighbridge.
That is your kerb weight. (different thing to Unladen weight)
Unladen weight is the same but add 75kg driver, 90% fuel, water and a gas bottle....
EVERYTHING added after that is payload Inc towbar, sat dish, solar panel, awning etc
Call it what you want Lenny, before the EU tossers we didn't have MIRO, we had curb and Unladen.Unladen weight is the dry weight of the vehicle.
When you add in allowances it is the MIRO ( mass in running order).
The EU recommend MIRO includes a driver at 75kg, 90% fuel, 20 Lt water & 1 X 11 kg Aluminium gas bottle but most of the Brit manufacturers have their own variation on it.
It is not the same as the weight of the motorhome before you (or the converter, or the dealer) starts to load it.
I'm surprised anyone worries about unladen weight.
Innocent until proven guilty still stands in the UK I believe..... Who will and how can it be prove you are over 3.05t when finding the info is proving impossible.Although it is what actually dictates the speed limits that are applicable in the UK. 60,70,70 for unladen less than 3.05 tonnes or 50,60,70 for vehicles with unladen weight greater than 3.05 tonnes.
https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits
Quite easy to find but difficult to prove.Innocent until proven guilty still stands in the UK I believe..... Who will and how can it be prove you are over 3.05t when finding the info is proving impossible.
It is here.weight of chassis cab ,or even just the front part minus rear chassis if an alko being fitted, before installation of any bodywork.
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I agree with both of you - but just try to find it for your motorhome. My point is that there is no readily available and accurate unloaded weight for a motorhome - be useful if there was - so research and MIRO are more useful to motorhome users.Although it is what actually dictates the speed limits that are applicable in the UK. 60,70,70 for unladen less than 3.05 tonnes or 50,60,70 for vehicles with unladen weight greater than 3.05 tonnes.
https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits
That might be factual but quite likely all that will be recognised by the Law is a piece of paper from a recognised supplier - be it OEM or converter - that states the actual on-the-road Unladen Weight.Quite easy to find but difficult to prove.
Take the Technical mass from the C of C ( this will include manufacturers fitted options), deduct manufacturers allowances for MIRO and leisure batteries then add weight of dealer and DIY fitted extras.
Not in writing it isn't.... I don't think a magistrate will be interested in theoretical equations in a technical speeding case... On the other hand, written proof your Unladen mass is below 3.05t cannot be argued with. Case dismissed.Quite easy to find
I did say difficult to prove.Not in writing it isn't.... I don't think a magistrate will be interested in theoretical equations in a technical speeding case... On the other hand, written proof your Unladen mass is below 3.05t cannot be argued with. Case dismissed.
Unladen weight decides the speed limits that apply to your motorhome. Could be important if you are caught doing 70mph on a dual carriageway in the motorhome. Illegal if your unladen weight is over 3050k; legal if it is at or under. But don't ask me how it is calculated or what the unladen weight of my Hymer is. But if you are caught you do not have to prove the unladen weight is under 3050; the police have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that it is over.I'm surprised anyone worries about unladen weight. It appears to be one of the mysteries surrounding motorhome construction and I've never seen an official version of it. It is not the same as the weight of the motorhome before you (or the converter, or the dealer) starts to load it. The only weight that matters is MIRO and from that payload and it's an unfortunate fact that the only accurate method to determine payload is to work backwards. It's an act of faith tempered by research and attempting to pin down the dealer if trying to determine payload in advance. If you believe payload will be limited you need to insist that the dealer weighs it as is followed by you calculating your needs before purchase.
Why not?Who does 70mph ?? not me