Travel Plans. To change or not?

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How does the CV. affect us ?
 
Unless you are planning on travelling to china what difference does it make? corona virus is most places including uk. My local gps was closed briefly due to it so why would we be less safe in France or Spain in our vans for instance?
 
Sorry my choice but I'll stay in the sun of southern Europe! Than freeze in the UK the statistics say 1 strain has burnt itself out if you believe the news!
But how much of the panic is caused by news paper hype?

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I’m off to Malta next week, a bit nervous of being stuck with all those people on a plane as there’s always somebody coughing in your face. However, currently Malta has 0 cases, so probably safer than staying at home. I don’t think I’d have any concerns about travelling in the van, but would take more precautions than usual following advice on hand washing etc. You never know, you might even be able to buy a bottle of hand sanitizer abroad!
 
Helen Ariel said:
Unless you are planning on travelling to china what difference does it make? corona virus is most places including uk. My local gps was closed briefly due to it so why would we be less safe in France or Spain in our vans for instance?
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How about Italy is that still on your list for most of the cases in the UK begun with people returning from Italy. Cases are growing in the Benidorm area, is that still on your list of places to visit.

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buttons said:
I've put mine on hold for now...
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Done the same, much prefer if I’m going to get it to be home, we should have been in Spain for the next couple of months, If we had gone we would have to use campsites every few days at least so you would have to mix with the locals, At home we haven’t any need to speak to anybody unless we want too,
 
My OH and a group of 8 (including 3 Drs.) were intending driving next week from Poland through Czech and Austria to ski in N. Italy.

They have cancelled, not because of health fears, but because of possible travel restrictions on the return, trapping them in Italy. Even if the ski area in Italy is not included in the quarantine zone, Austria has already halted train trips from Italy so road traffic could be next.

I was not going anyway as for me the drive is too long for 6 days skiing, but now I am very pleased.

Geoff
 
We are in Spain at present and not going to spoil it by worrying we prefer to be in the more remote areas so don’t get into crowds of folk. Just carry on as normal none of us know what’s around the corner so think positive and get on with your travels and follow guidelines about hygiene ??
 
buttons said:
How about Italy is that still on your list for most of the cases in the UK begun with people returning from Italy. Cases are growing in the Benidorm area, is that still on your list of places to visit.
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A lot of the cases in uk came from France via a guy in Brighton where i live so it's daft to stay at home worrying. certainly steer clear of highly populated areas that have an out break but that's just common sense. I'll feel just as safe touring around in the van through areas i can pick and choose as staying at home with the prolonged cold weather and damp.
 
It's ironic really - I'm going to Vietnam in a week's time and a month ago I was concerned. But seeing how they've managed & dealt with their outbreak I'm actually far more confident about going rather than staying here/europe.

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We have been in Spain and Portugal for 2 weeks and taking care with antibacterial Handwash as not all Lois have hot water,and staying away from sneezing folks!! Most campsites are empty at the moment!
The warm sun is worth it and not worrying!?

May have to oblige if restrictions are in place when we head back but not worried yet!!?
 
In a wait and see mode at the moment...........France in April, Sicily in May and TDF in July all planned, Italy at risk because i don't fancy getting stuck on a ferry from Genoa with the dogs, but the other trips will happen unless it goes absolutely mental etc, wouldn't fancy planes, ferries and large crowds at the best of times but with this lurgy bobbin around i think i would avoid.
 
I agree with a previous post, its not so much your decision of where to go, and where not to go, its how the virus affects different areas across the world, and whether you would be allowed to enter, or worse exit any region.
We were looking at booking the Anek Superfast ferry from either Ancona, or Bari in Italy, over to Greece, but will not now, as this virus is spreading beyond control it would seem, & currently Italy is a high risk area, as you all know.
Makes me wonder also how Travel Insurance premiums will be hiked up, they may even refuse to offer cover for any areas deemed as high risk...who knows?
LES
PS: imagine the scenario of getting stuck in Benidorm indefinitely:eek::imoutahere:
 
TinaL said:
I agree with a previous post, its not so much your decision of where to go, and where not to go, its how the virus affects different areas across the world, and whether you would be allowed to enter, or worse exit any region.
We were looking at booking the Anek Superfast ferry from either Ancona, or Bari in Italy, over to Greece, but will not now, as this virus is spreading beyond control it would seem, & currently Italy is a high risk area, as you all know.
Makes me wonder also how Travel Insurance premiums will be hiked up, they may even refuse to offer cover for any areas deemed as high risk...who knows?
LES
PS: imagine the scenario of getting stuck in Benidorm indefinitely:eek::imoutahere:
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TinaL said:
Makes me wonder also how Travel Insurance premiums will be hiked up, they may even refuse to offer cover for any areas deemed as high risk...who knows?
LES
PS: imagine the scenario of getting stuck in Benidorm indefinitely:eek::imoutahere:
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My understanding is that unless FCO advises against travel, insurance companies are under no obligation to compensate, so I’m guessing only travel to some parts of China and Italy are in scope? They shouldn’t have any excuse to hike premiums on that basis.

I think I’d rather contract Covid-19 than being stuck in Benidorm! :oops:
 
We are due to cross over to France mid-April. If things kick off I understand the peak won't happen until another six weeks or a bit longer, so about when we intend to travel. :)

We are just going to keep things under review. As others have said it is travel restrictions which could be the cruncher.
 
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My understanding is that unless FCO advises against travel, insurance companies are under no obligation to compensate, so I’m guessing only travel to some parts of China and Italy are in scope? They shouldn’t have any excuse to hike premiums on that basis.

I think I’d rather contract Covid-19 than being stuck in Benidorm! :oops:
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Thats the problem, the Italian Borders are already being affected, Austria may close its borders to all coming in from the South they. So thats our Ferry plans scuppered for now, at the current rate of spread, none of us know in the coming weeks months where we will be allowed to enter/exit.

I hate to mention it, but even the Northern France entry ports may be closed, as I read last night of several Covid-19 cases being identified near Dunkirk:eek:
Lets just hope for all our sakes & those already affected with it,that this virus can be contained before too long.
Off to wash my hands now, also wipe all smart phone screens, and laptop keyboards, not many think of that as they sneeze & cough into their devices.:unsure:
LES
 
I wouldn't change my plans yet because of coronavirus. I'm flying to Copenhagen on Friday for a long weekend and not giving it (much of) a second thought.

The virus is already spreading past the "containment" phase - and we will shortly move into the "delay" phase, to attempt to mitigate its effects and increase our ability to manage those worst affected. We cannot stop it, any more than we can stop the common cold or flu from spreading.

It is likely to reach 50% infection rates in the UK and possibly 80%, this year.

Take sensible precautions (good personal hygiene, social distancing, etc). If you are in a higher risk group (older, immuno-compromised or with existing respiratory or cardio-vascular conditions) then more care is needed. But it is unlikely many of us can avoid catching it. For the overwhelming majority of us who catch it, the symptoms will be mild and self-limiting like a bad cold or flu.

Prepare prudently for the social and economic disruption that will accompany the outbreak. You may be forced to change plans because of government actions - such as restrictions on travel. Once it is epidemic and pandemic, hopefully we will be a bit more rational about travel restrictions - as closing borders will not do any good.

If you have investment policies that you rely on and which you need to draw on in the short- to medium-term you might want to think about transferring these to lower-risk vehicles. We've just cashed in the stocks&shares-based investments needed to pay for No2 to go to uni next year, and will probably move them into lower risk fixed-term government bonds. I didn't want to risk following the market down over the next 6 months with too little time for the value to recover on the other side. We left our other investments (needed a few years later and with life policies attached), intact.

But mostly importantly of all, keep a sense of perspective and don't overreact.

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The CV is all over the place now and we’ve had texts from our Doc surgery to not go in if we think we may have but to go to A&E!!!!
That way we can infect even more people!
 
TinaL said:
Thats the problem, the Italian Borders are already being affected, Austria may close its borders to all coming in from the South they. So thats our Ferry plans scuppered for now, at the current rate of spread, none of us know in the coming weeks months where we will be allowed to enter/exit.

I hate to mention it, but even the Northern France entry ports may be closed, as I read last night of several Covid-19 cases being identified near Dunkirk:eek:
Lets just hope for all our sakes & those already affected with it,that this virus can be contained before too long.
Off to wash my hands now, also wipe all smart phone screens, and laptop keyboards, not many think of that as they sneeze & cough into their devices.:unsure:
LES
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As of today France has 259 CV confirmed cases including a cluster in the Val d'Oise not far from the Channel ports. The total is increasing fast.

At some point the UK government may include France in the list of countries from which you will be obliged to self-isolate for 14 days on your return.

My plans for a trip to France are on hold at least until we can be confident that the CV outbreaks over there and in the UK have peaked.

If 20% of cases may require hospitalisation the shortage of IC beds doesn't bear thinking about.
 
Shrimp said:
The CV is all over the place now and we’ve had texts from our Doc surgery to not go in if we think we may have but to go to A&E!!!!
That way we can infect even more people!
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Do not go to A&E. I see the NHS advice daily in my professional capacity. Phone NHS 111 or phone your GP surgery.
 

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