This is real policing

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  1. TheTwoOfUs

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    All the UK health & safety folk have had to go have a lie down in a darkened room after that...
     
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    One word.. tenacity !
    Well done that plod

    Now sitting back for all the tree huggers and do Gooder’s to say how terrible and reckless it was
     
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    That lad can peddle a bike :p
     
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    Was that Jason Bourne on the Police Bike ? :LOL:
     
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    you do have to balance it against the crime committed at least three close calls with pedestrians if his a wanted killer maybe if he has failed to stop for a momnr is t justified
     
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    Brilliant, but where were his mates when he needed them, cut backs I suppose.
     
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    I don't condone this sort of behaviour, but this kid can ride a bit ;)
     
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  9. TheTwoOfUs

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    I think they both can;)
     
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    I agree with that, he made a valient attempt but he was never going to out run the copper.
     
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    I have often wondered what would happen if when chased younslowed it right down. I mean 15 mph slow.
    Too fat to be run after, too slow to be accused of reckless driving..
    Given to outride plod is extremely unlikely ( ok, not impossible but unlikely ) the eventual outcome remains the same but you could have right larff fairly safely before getting nabbed

    Sort of do an O.J. Simpson!
     
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    Copper didn't have gloves on and bare arms :eek:, don't blame them in hot countries, you've just got to make sure you don't fall off ;)
     
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    Sum very god riding there on both parts that would have ben called of at the first corner in the uk
    bill
     
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    Why did the lad stop? Run out of fuel?

    What country?
     
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    He probably ran out of adrenaline , and common sense took over .
    Those that try to flee don't realise that they have to be better than the one pursuing , not just equal , as its very much easier when you are following , as they are forwarning you of whats coming to a great part , as long as you don't get so close that you don't have enough reaction time.
    The degree of risk by both parties was unacceptable JMHO .
     
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    Not bad.
    That copper will have had some serious pursuit training but the young lad gave him a run for his money..... Respect.
     
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    Spain probably
     
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    Caveat - We don't know the full story but....

    Unless the offender was a wanted high value criminal, armed, or presenting a serious danger to the public there is just no justification for that. Think terrorist/fleeing murderer/kidnapper and we would be in the right area. Other than that they win, another chance will present or another unit will deal.

    Clearly an unjustifiable and disproportionate response from the Officer; the Red Mist has descended. That's why we have senior Officer oversight in this country and they MUST be authorised.

    Controller - "You want to do what for what?"

    Officer - "A high speed m/c pursuit at night, through a busy built up area with pedestrian and vehicular traffic and poor lighting, without proper protection for either party"

    Controller - "No, stand down".

    By initiating the pursuit he endangered himself, the rider he was chasing and the many, many other road users that had to take avoiding action as they blasted through. It would never happen here, and rightly so. If a m/c Officer behaved like that he'd most probably be booted out of the unit.

    Whether he is a good rider or not is immaterial, his judgement is flawed, he is not doing his job correctly. In initiating and continuing the pursuit he failed to conduct a generic risk assessment and the simplest of cost/benefit analysis, both simple tactics that would have been drilled into him at rider training.

    Remember an officer's first and overriding duty is to ….."Preserve life", it's in the oath.

    Some of you arm chair warriors relaxing out there really make me chuckle, you need to get a reality check. Do you have any idea how dangerous a pursuit like that is? Do you have any idea the likelihood of a fatality? For what? A minor ticketable violation?

    No doubt you will be the same key board Zen masters who condemn the Police when they do pursue and cause a fatality because it was not justified or properly assessed. Or if the offender died as a result and was a relative, you would be shouting from the highest tower about the police being overly aggressive and looking for a public enquiry and compensation!

    Or even worse, you were out and about on holiday having a great time with the family and friends and you got T-boned by 350 kilos of mounted Cop doing 70 mph as you crossed the road. I am sure your loved ones would have something to say about that, and rightly so.
     
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    The lad running away didn't care if he killed somebody. He must be stopped at any cost.
     
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    He was a young kid trying to get away from a copper FFS, happens all the time in the UK, check out YouTube.
    He could have run a red light or nicked some old ladies handbag.but public enemy number 1....i don't think so somehow.

    The Spaniards obviously do it differently to the UK.
    I'm sure there will be some countries would simply have shot him at first opportunity.
    Others wouldn't have bothered doing anything.

    It's their country, their rules, their way.
     
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