Run or stay. (1 Viewer)

[mojo]

To start or not to start, that is the question.
Last winter I ran the van half hour stationary and sometimes on the road up to temperature each month. This question was raised by a forum member and I decided to follow advise he received for this winter. That is to better leave engine standing than just monthly starts to protect the exhaust system. Now I am confused as some think this is a mistake. Another point this winter is I can only run it stationary because of lockdown. Hymer 3 litre.

 

[irnbru]

Another point this winter is I can only run it stationary because of lockdown.

Nothing stopping you taking it out on the roadie its taxed. Just stay local.

 

[mojo]

Running a 8 mtr A class would draw attention & hope not to have breakdown. My car registered would blow the shopping trip excuse. No unessecary travel is the problem.

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[David and Sally]

You will be fine shopping in the van. No law says you have to take the car.

Agree a bit visible so maybe a sign in the windows - Shopping??

 

[Nanniemate]

Running a 8 mtr A class would draw attention & hope not to have breakdown. My car registered would blow the shopping trip excuse. No unessecary travel is the problem.

the choice of vehicle you use to do your shopping is yours. I took my Van (Only PVC) until sense overtook and the £30 year car tax made my decision to SORN the van at the end of December

 

[spongebob]

Any engine with a diesel particulate filter will clog up if the engine is left idling, causing it to go to limp mode.
It needs either a good blast on the motorway or left alone.

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[irnbru]

Running a 8 mtr A class would draw attention & hope not to have breakdown. My car registered would blow the shopping trip excuse. No unessecary travel is the problem.

Its only half a metre longer than ours. We took ours out yesterday to go get some LPG, saw the police in the filling station. He smiled and said nothing. You aren't doing anything illegally using it locally.

 

[Lenny HB]

I would never start the engine and run it stationary risk of too much damage as it will never get up to operating temperature.
I took mine for a run before Christmas will take it out again in a couple of weeks, see plenty of Motorhomes on the road around here. My neighoubor took his to do the shopping yesterday.

 

[Lenny HB]

I would never start the engine and run it stationary risk of too much damage as it will never get up to operating temperature.
I took mine for a run before Christmas will take it out again in a couple of weeks, see plenty of Motorhomes on the road around here. My neighoubor took his to do the shopping yesterday.

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[dunnah01]

To start or not to start, that is the question.
Last winter I ran the van half hour stationary and sometimes on the road up to temperature each month. This question was raised by a forum member and I decided to follow advise he received for this winter. That is to better leave engine standing than just monthly starts to protect the exhaust system. Now I am confused as some think this is a mistake. Another point this winter is I can only run it stationary because of lockdown. Hymer 3 litre.

Which 3.0 litre engine - if pre 2010 ish Euro IV then no dpf is fitted so running up to temp every few weeks would be fine.

 

[Lenny HB]

Which 3.0 litre engine - if pre 2010 ish Euro IV then no dpf is fitted so running up to temp every few weeks would be fine.

It has two CAT's it will damage those and glaze the bores.

 

[dunnah01]

It has two CAT's it will damage those and glaze the bores.

But it will also circulate oil to all parts of engine and gearbox aswell as air con seals, the heat will clear any moisture that's collected in engine and bay so worth the off chance of a bit of cat contamination which will burn off once warm. Not sure whether the risk of bore glazing is really that big an issue

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[autorouter]

Any engine with a diesel particulate filter will clog up if the engine is left idling, causing it to go to limp mode.
It needs either a good blast on the motorway or left alone.

Therefore a good blast on the motorway is an essential periodic maintenance procedure. It's what the manufacturers expect and recommend. You are not in contact with any other person, so there is no Covid risk.

So you're not contravening regulations. But even if you were, as Jenrick says, it's fine because it's only in a limited and specific way

 

[wiljoy]

Did my monthly 50 mile run yesterday. Good blast cleans it out. Totally agree with Lenny, ticking over isn't good and doesn't charge the battery.

 

[fullfat]

Similar post just been posted on Faceache!!
Must need a second opinion doctor

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[mojo]

I think as it's been 3 months so far might wait for some sort of relaxation of lockdown 3/4 weeks maybe.

 

[two]

Methinks a lot of advice is "do as I say" on this forum, although given in good faith.
I'm sure that if serious damage was being done, we'd know the specifics.
I cannot imagine dealers doing anything more than leaving their stock where it is,
or just moving things around rather than 'taking them for exercise'.

 

[Theonlysue]

Running a 8 mtr A class would draw attention & hope not to have breakdown. My car registered would blow the shopping trip excuse. No unessecary travel is the problem.

You can use either vehicle to shop.

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[nicholsong]

I sometimes have to start the engine to move the MH in our yard, but when I do I stay in the seat and run it for 15-20 mins at 1000+ rpm. It will not get to operating temperature, especially in winter, but it should by then be warm enough to get the oil all around and the gearbox all to all the gears including the 5th gear(internal) on a 2.8jtd.

How does this fit in with negative and positive comments on here?

I cannot take it for a run now as DVLA have not renewed my licence, yet.

Geoff

 

[mojo]

I sometimes have to start the engine to move the MH in our yard, but when I do I stay in the seat and run it for 15-20 mins at 1000+ rpm. It will not get to operating temperature, especially in winter, but it should by then be warm enough to get the oil all around and the gearbox all to all the gears including the 5th gear(internal) on a 2.8jtd.

How does this fit in with negative and positive comments on here?

I cannot take it for a run now as DVLA have not renewed my licence, yet.

Geoff

50/50 for and against

 

[nicholsong]

50/50 for and against

Probably correct but if I have to start the engine to move in the yard it may be the best I can do rather than a very short run of the engine with not much lubrication of engine nor gearbox.

Geoff

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[tjay]

Geoff said, I cannot take it for a run now as DVLA have not renewed my licence, yet.

I am still waiting for my licence but spoke to others via here and someone a clause 88 for the licence.
You have to call your GP and ask him to confirm that in his/her opinion you are fit to drive, they have to enter that request on your notes so it can be confirmed should you be stopped by the police.
only allowed in the UK though.
My GP told me he has done this for quite a few of his patients but DVLA often ask same questions twice so there is a delay.
Hope this helps.

 

[nicholsong]

Geoff said, I cannot take it for a run now as DVLA have not renewed my licence, yet.

I am still waiting for my licence but spoke to others via here and someone a clause 88 for the licence.
You have to call your GP and ask him to confirm that in his/her opinion you are fit to drive, they have to enter that request on your notes so it can be confirmed should you be stopped by the police.
only allowed in the UK though.
My GP told me he has done this for quite a few of his patients but DVLA often ask same questions twice so there is a delay.
Hope this helps.

Thanks, but S.88 of the RTA, being UK and not international legislation, only covers one in the UK and I am in Poland.

Geoff

 

[poppycamper]

We will never get a definitive answer for this one.. and by God it is not for the want of trying... Everyone have their own thoughts and experiences on whether to "run or stay".
For the record I am a devout "If you can't give it a decent run don't start it.

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[tjay]

Geoff said, Thanks, but S.88 of the RTA, being UK and not international legislation, only covers one in the UK and I am in Poland.

I DID say it only applied in the UK !! never knew you are in Poland ! Information applies to UK applicants !

 

[poppycamper]

Whit????? You sure you on right thread

 

[Coastal Cruiser.]

Took mine out for a run, have a dual carriageway near me that’s 10 miles long and no turn offs.
Went up around the roundabout and back.

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[nicholsong]

Geoff said, Thanks, but S.88 of the RTA, being UK and not international legislation, only covers one in the UK and I am in Poland.

I DID say it only applied in the UK !! never knew you are in Poland ! Information applies to UK applicants !

'Poland' in my location and Polish flag, both on my Avatar.

 

[sweetie]

Thanks, but S.88 of the RTA, being UK and not international legislation, only covers one in the UK and I am in Poland.

Geoff

Geoff when my licence was due last September at age of 73 I had medical with Doctor sent it in and all paperwork to DVLA they sent me a new licence for just one year and said they would accept that medical in September this year.
When I renewed it 70 I had to have exercise ECG on treadmill so expect they will make me have another this year.

 

[Lenny HB]

But it will also circulate oil to all parts of engine and gearbox aswell as air con seals, the heat will clear any moisture that's collected in engine and bay so worth the off chance of a bit of cat contamination which will burn off once warm. Not sure whether the risk of bore glazing is really that big an issue

With engines around 7-8 grand these days its not worth the risk.

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