refillable gas Installation

[Engineer999]

Hi, I'm looking for a mobile installation for LPG to replace Calor in the Derbyshire / Leicestershire border Area - any recommendations would be appreciated.

 

[Realist]

It’s not hard doing it yourself plenty of info about and you’ll save a few £££ as well.

 

[Engineer999]

Thanks Brian, the You-tube video I have seen shows the installer using a hole saw to install the external filler - this is the bit that gets me worried!!!!!!!

 

[Spriddler]

If you have the skills to change a Calor bottle and drill a couple of holes you can DIY. If you are nervous get it checked by a Gas Safe guy afterwards.

Thanks Brian, the You-tube video I have seen shows the installer using a hole saw to install the external filler - this is the bit that gets me worried!!!!!!!

You can buy a 'proper' hole cutter of the exact size to fit in the chuck of an electric drill for little money.

I fitted my two bottle system in 45 minutes. One Gaslow refillable and one exchangeable Calor (belt 'n braces).

 

[Realist]

The hole saw bit is daunting.

Start a thread first, ask questions and post pictures up of your locker are area around it and go from there,if after that your not confident then seek an installer.

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[namwaldog]

using a hole saw to install the external filler

I know it has been debated to death on here!!!

But dare I suggest fitting an in-locker filling point.

I bought my gaslow set up 2nd hand three years ago and it included an in-locker fill point which I fit myself. I have filled up the gas 30+ times in UK, France and Spain and never once questioned about opening the locker door to do so.

In fact once in Spain, where attendant service is often the norm at filling stations, I hadn't even got out of the cab before the attendant knocked on the window to ask for the keys to open the gas locker door!

Good Luck with whatever you decide to do.

Barry

 

[tonyidle]

My filler is in the locker. Never had an issue filling anywhere. I like it because it will leave no evidence if at anytime I choose to revert to bottles.

 

[tonyidle]

And, incidentally, there's no problem using a holesaw. If you're nervous practice on a piece of scrap plywood. Run the drill fast to prevent grabs.

 

[Manic]

If worried about drilling the large hole, I used one of these it only needs a 30mm hole and small screw holes

Euro Flat Filler Archives

www.autogasshop.co.uk

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[Campervan_man]

Normally cut the 70MM hole { from memory } in the side skirt not the locker door as the hose can kink and work loose when you open and close the locker door. Also the gas locker door isn't very strong and the Gaslow point can dish the door in when you tighten it up.
The Gaslow filler needs 2 notches one at the top and one at bottom to stop it spinning { note, notches can be slightly off centre so best to look and mark them up before filing.
Fit Gaslow point with sealant as the ally side skirt will corrode and the paint will flake over time.
Fit ONE yellow Gaslow bottle with an unconnected emergency use Calor bottle.
The gaslow has 80% over fill protection built in
That is cheaper than buying 2 yellow bottles.
You can buy gas leak detector soapy spray to check the hoses are free from leaks.
That is how I have done My own Dethleffs Globebus Campervan.

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

My filler is in the locker also, no issues with that anywhere. The only problem I encountered was connecting up a Spanish bottle so I had to leave the locker door open. Covered it with a windbreak.

 

[Lenny HB]

If you use the small filler and fit it in the sill no bodywork to cut. I strongly recommend you do not fit the filler in the locker door a dangerous practice that is not recommended.

Fillers inside the locker are all very well until you get refused and are low on gas. We have an external fill and have been refused a couple of times but I was able to tell them it was a tank & got filled.

You might want to consider Alugas bottle half the weight of the steel one and don't suffer from the paint flaking off if you have an external locker. Alugas also so 14 kg cylinders.

My filler in the sill.

 

[MisterB]

And fit an external gas point if you dont have one, two hole for the price of one drill bit lol

 

[Spriddler]

My filler is in the locker. Never had an issue filling anywhere. I like it because it will leave no evidence if at anytime I choose to revert to bottles.

If I remove my Gaslow system I plan to fit a plastic ventilator grille over the filler hole. Perfectly logical in a gas locker door.

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[JFD]

A general question: If you fit refillable gas bottles yourself, do you let your insurer know? It is a modification to the vehicle, so not informing them might invalidate your insurance.

I fitted a dual cylinder system myself on our previous motorhome, and never mentioned it to the insurance group. I always wondered what would happen if we had an accident, and an insurance assessor noticed the modification, and the absence of any notes on their records.

After reading much about such modifications, and having bought a motorhome that has the gas locker on the ‘wrong’ side, we decided to get the present vehicle fitted by a licensed engineering company, and informed the insurance company accordingly.

What do others do, insurance-wise?

 

[Manic]

A general question: If you fit refillable gas bottles yourself, do you let your insurer know? It is a modification to the vehicle, so not informing them might invalidate your insurance.

I fitted a dual cylinder system myself on our previous motorhome, and never mentioned it to the insurance group. I always wondered what would happen if we had an accident, and an insurance assessor noticed the modification, and the absence of any notes on their records.

After reading much about such modifications, and having bought a motorhome that has the gas locker on the ‘wrong’ side, we decided to get the present vehicle fitted by a licensed engineering company, and informed the insurance company accordingly.

What do others do, insurance-wise?

I wouldn’t think it any difference to having normal bottles, actually safer because you not connecting the bottles each time they need replacing.

 

[Lenny HB]

having bought a motorhome that has the gas locker on the ‘wrong’ side

Never hear of a gas locker on the wrong side.
The gas the gas locker is where the converter decides to fit it the side can vary with the model from the same manufacturer.

 

[Minxy]

A general question: If you fit refillable gas bottles yourself, do you let your insurer know? It is a modification to the vehicle, so not informing them might invalidate your insurance.

I tell them it is fitted as it's then included in the 'cost of replacement' should we need to make a claim, other than that they've never been interested. My set-up has now been in use since 2009 and I've installed it in 6 motorhomes.

 

[Minxy]

Thanks Brian, the You-tube video I have seen shows the installer using a hole saw to install the external filler - this is the bit that gets me worried!!!!!!!

I used the small filler on our Carthago as I just transferred it from our PVCs - it is much easier to install than the large round one and it is usually easier to find somewhere to put - the large round one has the filler connector set into it so needs quite a lot of space at the rear, whereas with the smaller one you screw in the various filler connectors as required so no massive back-end to it.

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[Minxy]

Another thread about it all ...

Gas It - Query

Hi All, Looking at putting in a 11kg and 6kg Gasit System, I don't really want to go drilling into skirt of MH, is there any reason external filler couldn't be attached to the Gas Locker Door? Thanks a mill. Gordon

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[sweetie]

A general question: If you fit refillable gas bottles yourself, do you let your insurer know? It is a modification to the vehicle, so not informing them might invalidate your insurance.

I fitted a dual cylinder system myself on our previous motorhome, and never mentioned it to the insurance group. I always wondered what would happen if we had an accident, and an insurance assessor noticed the modification, and the absence of any notes on their records.

After reading much about such modifications, and having bought a motorhome that has the gas locker on the ‘wrong’ side, we decided to get the present vehicle fitted by a licensed engineering company, and informed the insurance company accordingly.

What do others do, insurance-wise?

What is the right or wrong side. Never even thought about it. same as M/F fuel filler 3 fiats I've had on nearside Current Renault is on offside. Some cars fuel filler 0n N/s some O/S which one is right

 

[Minxy]

After reading much about such modifications, and having bought a motorhome that has the gas locker on the ‘wrong’ side, we decided to get the present vehicle fitted by a licensed engineering company, and informed the insurance company accordingly.

Never hear of a gas locker on the wrong side.
The gas the gas locker is where the converter decides to fit it the side can vary with the model from the same manufacturer.

What is the right or wrong side. Never even thought about it. same as M/F fuel filler 3 fiats I've had on nearside Current Renault is on offside. Some cars fuel filler 0n N/s some O/S which one is right

Are you two being stoooooopid or just plain silly ... by wrong side he appears to mean that it is on the opposite side to the hab door.

Why this would affect him installing the system himself though I haven't a clue unless he had extras like a gas BBQ point added at the same time.

 

[Realist]

If at all your not sure or confident I would seek to find an installer and while your at it if you don’t have an external gas point get one fitted.

 

[JFD]

Forgive my confusing statement about the “wrong side”.

In my experience, the “right” side is the same as the fuel filler, so you don’t have to move the Moho when filling up both systems, which is what we usually do!

Fitting a gas filler on the opposite side of the motorhome to the gas bottle locker means a quite long hose between them, plus problems of avoiding the existing pipe work, including the exhaust!

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[Lenny HB]

In my experience, the “right” side is the same as the fuel filler, so you don’t have to move the Moho when filling up both systems, which is what we usually do!

Don't think I've ever filled up with both fuel and gas at the same time. If you really have to it only takes a minute or two to move to another pump.
I think you are creating a problem that doesn't really exist.

 

[sedge]

Auchan's DIY filling station at Boulogne is a case in point should you need both, fresh off the Chunnel - the diesel pump requires you to pull up with the pump on your LHS but the LPG is the other side of the vehicle already on your right, and both sides have a queue behind you and the adjacent vehicle ……. out of the filling station onto the exit road from the entire shopping 'estate', hang a right and then turn left onto the estate again, round the first island inside the estate and double back towards the exit from the estate and hang another right into the filling station and repeat …...

 

[Nasher]

A fascinating thread, which makes me realise that my choice of diesel cooking & heating (no gas) was the right one for me

To the OP - if you're not happy installing it yourself (we all have different aptitudes) then getting someone to do it for you sounds like the best idea

 

[Spriddler]

My local garage has a double sided LPG cabinet with hoses both sides so instead of driving out after filling with diesel and then coming back I just use the hose/filler gun from the 'other' side of the pump.

 

[Minxy]

Forgive my confusing statement about the “wrong side”.

In my experience, the “right” side is the same as the fuel filler, so you don’t have to move the Moho when filling up both systems, which is what we usually do!

Fitting a gas filler on the opposite side of the motorhome to the gas bottle locker means a quite long hose between them, plus problems of avoiding the existing pipe work, including the exhaust!

Okay I can see your reason for the 'wrong side' comment but why does this mean you felt the need to have it installed professionally because of it?

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