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PhilandMena
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This is so full of holes! Test houses verified by themselves !!! IMO it supports the claim by A&A Caravans that performance data is taken at face value.
 
Aug 17, 2011
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In 2012 I bought two AGM batteries they failed early 2014! In March 2014 I did loads of reading.

I read the website from A and A caravans and bought 2 x Bosch s5 leisure batteries 100ah - these were stop/start car batteries. At the time it was a bit of a risk but I needed new batteries and couldn’t stretch to gel.There website at the time suggested these were better than most leisure batteries. I wasn’t sure how well they would work out but they are still in use now. I use them roughly 98% of the time off hook up and have a 90w solar panel to keep them topped up. Our van is used all year round and during winter used approximately every 6 weeks in summer the van is used for all our holidays and almost every weekend!

All I can say is that I’m happy I took the risk and listened to a and a caravans.
 
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PhilandMena
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In 2012 I bought two AGM batteries they failed early 2014! In March 2014 I did loads of reading.

I read the website from A and A caravans and bought 2 x Bosch s5 leisure batteries 100ah - these were stop/start car batteries. At the time it was a bit of a risk but I needed new batteries and couldn’t stretch to gel.There website at the time suggested these were better than most leisure batteries. I wasn’t sure how well they would work out but they are still in use now. I use them roughly 98% of the time off hook up and have a 90w solar panel to keep them topped up. Our van is used all year round and during winter used approximately every 6 weeks in summer the van is used for all our holidays and almost every weekend!

All I can say is that I’m happy I took the risk and listened to a and a caravans.
Can you verify it's the S5 Car battery and not the L5 which is the leisure battery. If the L5 That is a great recommendation for this Leisure battery which is also the Varta LFD90 (Same battery, different labels) and purchased by quite a few members on here who will be glad to know how the battery is performing. I have been looking at the Excide ET650 Leisure battery with great interest as it weighs 27 Kilos and comes from a good battery manufacturer who claim it will give loads of cycles and can be subjected to deep discharges over long periods. Just what I want.
 
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Can you verify it's the S5 Car battery and not the L5 which is the leisure battery. If the L5 That is a great recommendation for this Leisure battery which is also the Varta LFD90 (Same battery, different labels) and purchased by quite a few members on here who will be glad to know how the battery is performing. I have been looking at the Excide ET650 Leisure battery with great interest as it weighs 27 Kilos and comes from a good battery manufacturer who claim it will give loads of cycles and can be subjected to deep discharges over long periods. Just what I want.
Been running a pair of LFD90's for 2 1/2 years now, charged with 200 watts of solar. We have a 1800 watt inverter which runs the 1200 watt hair dryer each morning for 5 minutes and we watch TV for a couple of hours a night. Also charge a Bosch pedelec bike on12v pulling 6 amps for around 4 hours, 2 or 3 times a week. No problems so far.

Colin
 
Aug 17, 2011
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Can you verify it's the S5 Car battery and not the L5 which is the leisure battery. If the L5 That is a great recommendation for this Leisure battery which is also the Varta LFD90 (Same battery, different labels) and purchased by quite a few members on here who will be glad to know how the battery is performing. I have been looking at the Excide ET650 Leisure battery with great interest as it weighs 27 Kilos and comes from a good battery manufacturer who claim it will give loads of cycles and can be subjected to deep discharges over long periods. Just what I want.
Yes mine is the Bosch s5 car battery that was recommended prior to the new style leisure batteries that are probably based on the s5! The varta lfd90 is now the recommended replacement although there is probably very little difference!
 

Minxy Girl

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Just got an email from Tayna about Yuasa batteries ... do they realise how unwise it is to say this I wonder! :D

Yuasa's new high spec leisure batteries are now available at Tayna!

The batteries have been tested and verified by the NCC where they listed the AGM batteries as 'A Class'. This means that the NCC recommend these batteries to anyone that requires a unit that can handle frequent off-grid use.

The EFB batteries were awarded 'B Class' which means these batteries are perfect for use with an electrical hookup, with some off-grid use too.
 

Blue Knight

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That's a very interesting read and I do like the fact that he seems to have the NCC on the ropes.

That said, I wouldn't mind one of those 2000-cycle type batteries that is mentioned by the NCC. They must be good:D
 

Lenny HB

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It gets worse, this months MMM magazine had an article on leisure batteries, recommending NCC 'tested' batteries...

Are they part of this scam too?
Not surprising nearly all their advertiser's are members of the the NCC.
 
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PhilandMena
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That's a very interesting read and I do like the fact that he seems to have the NCC on the ropes.

That said, I wouldn't mind one of those 2000-cycle type batteries that is mentioned by the NCC. They must be good:D
I've just purchased a pair of these and according to the NCC list they are rated as Class A.

https://www.tayna.co.uk/leisure-batteries/exide/et650/

However, this is not the reason I purchased them. According to Exide's Specification, they are 27 Kilos in weight (Big chunk of lead) and around 500 Cycles @ 50% D.O.D and as Exide produce there own leisure batteries I have some confidence these will perform well. I will provide feedback on their performance in due course.

https://www.exide.com/eu/sites/default/files/2018-06/Marine - Battery Solutions.pdf
 
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let be honest theres no such thing as independent testing if the manufacturing company is paying the bill in much the same way as suveys will always find the results that the nbill payer wants
 

Jim

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Reading this months MMM you'd be forgiven for thinking that the NCC tested this battery 600 times not 6. Or am I just reading it wrong?

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Oct 2, 2008
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@Jim I think you would be reading that in the manner it was intended to convey , which is seemingly not entirely truthful it would appear !
 

funflair

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It specifically say 600 life cycles "when tested by the NCC" so if they haven't tested it to 600 cycles they are either purposely or inadvertently misleading the public and I am sure we will see an apology for their mistake in the next issue of MMM.

Wont we? OK that will be a NO then.

Martin
 
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In the absurdity stakes right up there with the idea that the NCC is anything other than a joke is the idea that MMM exists to provide any kind of public service.

They exist to sell advertising, nothing more. They're never going to print anything that could be interpreted in any way as negative about any product connected with any of their advertisers.
 
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