Ive been asked for an opinion on this? Tidy Job or not?

[Jim]

But I'm not technical enough to pass comment. I know some of you are so what do you think?

A guy had an Inverter Professionally Installed,

The pics show an external socket that the new inverter fed. A cable was supplied to connect their socket to their regular hook-up entry. According to the installer it’s a safety feature so that the mains can’t be connected at the same time as the inverter. So thats the first part of the story, what do you make of that?

Part two
The van’s owner took it for an MOT test. It failed because the cable carrying 240V from the inverter to the external socket had been run under the van and cable-tied to one of the rear suspension springs. what do you make of that?

I don't know who the fitter is yet but I'm sure I'll find out.

 

[Just smiffy]

 

[pappajohn]

I think I know the installers.

Mr Heath & Mr Robinson.

 

[pappajohn]

It's an effective safety measure and of course it will be charging the battery via the inverter which is drawing power from the battery which is charging the battery via the inverter which is......

But it wont prevent you accidently plugging in the hookup post to the inverter outlet.

 

[Jim]

It's an effective safety measure and of course it will be charging the battery via the inverter which is drawing power from the battery which is charging the battery via the inverter which is......

Are you saying they've invented a sort of perpetual power?

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[pappajohn]

Are you saying they've invented a sort of perpetual power?

If only Jim, if only.

 

[Shrimp]

Weird!

 

[emjaiuk]

It would have been easy to wire through a 2 way relay, so that 240v power disconnected the invertor. my old RV had this arrangement to automatically separate 240v landline and the genny. At the absolute minimum the van's owner should demand his money back

Malcolm

Disclimer, I have no formal electrical qualification.

 

[TheBig1]

Mssrs Bodgeit & Scarper at their very best

 

[eddie]

It is appalling!

Apart from the fact that it looks atrocious, using the batteries to power the inverter, to power the charger, to power the batteries, to power the inverter, to power the charger, to power the batteries, to power the inverter, to power the charger, to power the batteries, to power the inverter, to power the charger, to power the batteries: well you see the issue, SiFi books call this perpetual motion, which of course we all know doesn't exist!!

All this does is create heat and battery discharge

There are loads of safe, professional ways of providing inverted 220 VAC into the 13 amp sockets

I suspect that this wasn't installed professionally, as it is such a schoolboy error, and I suspect that this is a recycled throwback to the last April Fools day as no one would be that stupid to do it, especially someone who could have their arse sued off for such incompetence

Eddie Jones
Van Bitz

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[busbuddy]

part one.....i can understand the misguided logic behind the safety aspect but surely the inverter has sockets on it negating the need to go outside and back in

part two...why would it be an mot fail? wrong most definitely but unless the cable is stretching or chafing directly then it would be an advisory at best

 

[TheBig1]

Go on @Jim spill the beans, who dunnit? Homebrew Harry or the famous Welsh electrician Dai Bollical

 

[gus-lopez]

People who do jobs like this should just be put down.

 

[TheBig1]

People who do jobs like this should just be put down.

with that sort of example they wont live too long

 

[pappajohn]

using the batteries to power the inverter, to power the charger, to power the batteries, to power the inverter, to power the charger, to power the batteries, to power the inverter, to power the charger, to power the batteries, to power the inverter, to power the charger, to power the batteries:

That's what I said Eddie, but I ran out of patience.

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[MC 55 FUN]

Are you saying they've invented a sort of perpetual power?

It's power Jim . . . but not as we know it . . .

 

[busby]

It's an effective safety measure and of course it will be charging the battery via the inverter which is drawing power from the battery which is charging the battery via the inverter which is......

But it wont prevent you accidently plugging in the hookup post to the inverter outlet.

I tried that once,,guess what,, it didn't work.BUSBY

 

[eddie]

That's what I said Eddie, but I ran out of patience.

I cut n paste

 

[ChrisL]

There must be a bank of dilithium crystals in that circuit somewhere.

 

[movan]

...... and I don't have a clue what you're all on about.

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[Larby]

...... and I don't have a clue what you're all on about.

It's very simple Joy, this should help

 

[suavecarve]

It is appalling!

Apart from the fact that it looks atrocious, using the batteries to power the inverter, to power the charger, to power the batteries, to power the inverter, to power the charger, to power the batteries, to power the inverter, to power the charger, to power the batteries, to power the inverter, to power the charger, to power the batteries: well you see the issue, SiFi books call this perpetual motion, which of course we all know doesn't exist!!

All this does is create heat and battery discharge

There are loads of safe, professional ways of providing inverted 220 VAC into the 13 amp sockets

I suspect that this wasn't installed professionally, as it is such a schoolboy error, and I suspect that this is a recycled throwback to the last April Fools day as no one would be that stupid to do it, especially someone who could have their arse sued off for such incompetence

Eddie Jones
Van Bitz

Is that a No then ?

 

[suavecarve]

It's very simple Joy, this should help
View attachment 287051

I was with @movan and didnt have a clue what was going on but that diagram has been really helpful and now i can see what is going on.
If only it was made this easy at the start.
Makes technical stuff easy to understand

 

[tonyidle]

part one.....i can understand the misguided logic behind the safety aspect but surely the inverter has sockets on it negating the need to go outside and back in

part two...why would it be an mot fail? wrong most definitely but unless the cable is stretching or chafing directly then it would be an advisory at best

I think the clue is "cable tied to one of the rear suspension springs". As far as the work done goes it has all been said in other posts.

 

[suavecarve]

It's power Jim . . . but not as we know it . . .

Funniest post of the day award ?

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[Gellyneck]

...... and I don't have a clue what you're all on about.

Cat's oot the bag! So it was you that fitted it.
Moonlighting as a bright spark now, eh!

 

[RogerThat]

why would it be an mot fail? wrong most definitely but unless the cable is stretching or chafing directly then it would be an advisory at best

Does 240v wiring even fall within the realms of an MOT?

 

[movan]

It's very simple Joy, this should help


View attachment 287051

I can go off people you know.

 

[Viennese]

...... and I don't have a clue what you're all on about.

No I don't understand either Joy!!

 

[Silver-Fox]

That’s ok ladies you understand other stuff like cooking, cleaning and washing

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