Ive been asked for an opinion on this? Tidy Job or not? (1 Viewer)

Jim

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But I'm not technical enough to pass comment. I know some of you are so what do you think?

A guy had an Inverter Professionally Installed,

The pics show an external socket that the new inverter fed. A cable was supplied to connect their socket to their regular hook-up entry. According to the installer it’s a safety feature so that the mains can’t be connected at the same time as the inverter. So thats the first part of the story, what do you make of that?

Part two
The van’s owner took it for an MOT test. It failed because the cable carrying 240V from the inverter to the external socket had been run under the van and cable-tied to one of the rear suspension springs. what do you make of that?

I don't know who the fitter is yet but I'm sure I'll find out.
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pappajohn

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It's an effective safety measure and of course it will be charging the battery via the inverter which is drawing power from the battery which is charging the battery via the inverter which is......

But it wont prevent you accidently plugging in the hookup post to the inverter outlet.
 
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Jim

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It's an effective safety measure and of course it will be charging the battery via the inverter which is drawing power from the battery which is charging the battery via the inverter which is......

Are you saying they've invented a sort of perpetual power?

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It would have been easy to wire through a 2 way relay, so that 240v power disconnected the invertor. my old RV had this arrangement to automatically separate 240v landline and the genny. At the absolute minimum the van's owner should demand his money back

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TheBig1

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Mssrs Bodgeit & Scarper at their very best
 

eddie

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It is appalling!

Apart from the fact that it looks atrocious, using the batteries to power the inverter, to power the charger, to power the batteries, to power the inverter, to power the charger, to power the batteries, to power the inverter, to power the charger, to power the batteries, to power the inverter, to power the charger, to power the batteries: well you see the issue, SiFi books call this perpetual motion, which of course we all know doesn't exist!!

All this does is create heat and battery discharge

There are loads of safe, professional ways of providing inverted 220 VAC into the 13 amp sockets

I suspect that this wasn't installed professionally, as it is such a schoolboy error, and I suspect that this is a recycled throwback to the last April Fools day as no one would be that stupid to do it, especially someone who could have their arse sued off for such incompetence

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part one.....i can understand the misguided logic behind the safety aspect but surely the inverter has sockets on it negating the need to go outside and back in

part two...why would it be an mot fail? wrong most definitely but unless the cable is stretching or chafing directly then it would be an advisory at best
 

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Go on @Jim spill the beans, who dunnit? Homebrew Harry or the famous Welsh electrician Dai Bollical
 

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using the batteries to power the inverter, to power the charger, to power the batteries, to power the inverter, to power the charger, to power the batteries, to power the inverter, to power the charger, to power the batteries, to power the inverter, to power the charger, to power the batteries:
That's what I said Eddie, but I ran out of patience. :D

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It's an effective safety measure and of course it will be charging the battery via the inverter which is drawing power from the battery which is charging the battery via the inverter which is......

But it wont prevent you accidently plugging in the hookup post to the inverter outlet.

I tried that once,,guess what,, it didn't work.BUSBY:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

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It is appalling!

Apart from the fact that it looks atrocious, using the batteries to power the inverter, to power the charger, to power the batteries, to power the inverter, to power the charger, to power the batteries, to power the inverter, to power the charger, to power the batteries, to power the inverter, to power the charger, to power the batteries: well you see the issue, SiFi books call this perpetual motion, which of course we all know doesn't exist!!

All this does is create heat and battery discharge

There are loads of safe, professional ways of providing inverted 220 VAC into the 13 amp sockets

I suspect that this wasn't installed professionally, as it is such a schoolboy error, and I suspect that this is a recycled throwback to the last April Fools day as no one would be that stupid to do it, especially someone who could have their arse sued off for such incompetence

Eddie Jones
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part one.....i can understand the misguided logic behind the safety aspect but surely the inverter has sockets on it negating the need to go outside and back in

part two...why would it be an mot fail? wrong most definitely but unless the cable is stretching or chafing directly then it would be an advisory at best
I think the clue is "cable tied to one of the rear suspension springs". As far as the work done goes it has all been said in other posts.
 

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why would it be an mot fail? wrong most definitely but unless the cable is stretching or chafing directly then it would be an advisory at best

Does 240v wiring even fall within the realms of an MOT? (n)
 

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That’s ok ladies you understand other stuff like cooking, cleaning and washing :)


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