Ducato Door lock vulnerability

[the1andonly]

The old screwdriver up the xxx, as prevented by proplates. are post 2016 models still susceptible to this attack or is the internal modification up to the task. HAs anyone with a post 2016 model been broken into this way?

 

[Boringfrog]

Much easier ways to gain access.

 

[Al n Val]

that’s not the OP is asking though mate

 

[Stroppy Bird]

The old screwdriver up the xxx, as prevented by proplates. are post 2016 models still susceptible to this attack or is the internal modification up to the task. HAs anyone with a post 2016 model been broken into this way?

I think that Steve and Soz is a 2017 (but not sure what the base vehicle is) and theirs was recently broken into this way as they described here.

Lucky, Lucky me!

Left MoHo, Peugeot Boxer cab on drive and went to Devon for a couple of days. In the morning noticed I had a notification from Metatrak (immobilizer) on my phone that the previous evening (2330) the ignition had been switched on and off about 20 times and the battery then disconnected. The...

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[the1andonly]

Riverbankannie has also posted about this method but dont know age of her pvc.

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[Riverbankannie]

Riverbankannie has also posted about this method but dont know age of her pvc.

Mine is 2015.

 

[Gromett]

I work under the assumption that ALL manufacturers are crap and a top priority for me is to fit new deadlocks.

The problem with manufacturers locks are that there are so many of them out there that eventually an exploit will be found. With deadlocks this just isn't possible without a decent skill level in lock picking.

 

[TinaLes]

I work under the assumption that ALL manufacturers are crap and a top priority for me is to fit new deadlocks.

The problem with manufacturers locks are that there are so many of them out there that eventually an exploit will be found. With deadlocks this just isn't possible without a decent skill level in lock picking.

Hi Gromett
Are we talking about fitting Hoesafe deadlocks fitted inside the cab doors, or something lockable from outside?
I would love to see any DIY options for exterior deadlocks on cab doors as they are at least visible to anyone trying to gain entry.
Thanks.
LES

 

[Gromett]

Hi Gromett
Are we talking about fitting Hoesafe deadlocks fitted inside the cab doors, or something lockable from outside?
I would love to see any DIY options for exterior deadlocks on cab doors as they are at least visible to anyone trying to gain entry.
Thanks.
LES

I am talking about fitted to the vehicles doors not the habitation doors on coach built vans.

A thief trying to take a coach built C class will want to be able to enter and exit the van doors. A rapid escape is not possible if they enter through the hab door and get pulled over. Thieves are cowards generally speaking.
A class van's are a different matter altogether I think.

I have been on PVC's for quite a while now and fitted deadlocks on all doors.

The heosafe internal ones are better than nothing but I don't think they are much of a deterrent unfortunately.

These are the ones I am fitting to my current van.

Garrison Deadlock - Vauxhall Vivaro (2001>>2014) - Vanlocks.co.uk

Van deadlocks offer excellent protection adding an extra locking point to the door. Used by many fleet or private operators, the van deadlock works independently to the existing manufacturers locking system so the driver decides when each door is locked/unlocked.

www.vanlocks.co.uk

 

[Charlie57]

Like those would like to see a thread describing (with pics of course) fitting please?

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[Pugsy]

Plenty vids on youtube that show a complete lnstalation,have a search.
Cheers Cris.

 

[the1andonly]

Yes deadlocks may be effective but has the original lock been upgraded and less susceptible to this type of attack?

 

[pappajohn]

My last Kontiki had electronic dead bolts.... Basically solinoids.
Fitted through a hole in the door frame with a corresponding hole in the door end with strengthener plates.
25mm diameter Bolt held back under 12v power so even if power removed it remained locked.
The only way past that would be cut a hole in the door skin and push the bolt back with a finger etc. IF you knew where the bolt was.

 

[the1andonly]

Back to original question does fiats mod actually prevent access

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Ps not interested in how marvelous deadlocks are

 

[Deneb]

Back to original question does fiats mod actually prevent access

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Ps not interested in how marvelous deadlocks are

No. It may prevent or make the screwdriver slipped behind the handle moulding trick more difficult, but thieves will adapt to techniques they use on other vehicles, which I won't describe here, but can still be done in seconds although with more damage apparent.

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[the1andonly]

Thanks the informed answer.

 

[Kozikot]

Cheap Ducato Cab Door Locks...come with Jack nuts as well so very secure...
You don't have to cut the trim, but a bit of belts and braces on my part...

The Price you see is for a Pair...

Then just us the Hab Door to Exit, with a Heosafe 1958W locked fitted...

Not Foolproof but a Decent way to secure Cab Doors...

 

[Monty don]

The easiest way is screew driver in lock barrel and turn. Easy peasy 2019 Ducato shite

Mine where done this year. Im going to blank them off with a metal plate. Don't need them with remote control and odds of the Remote not working very slim.

 

[webby1]

The easiest way is screew driver in lock barrel and turn. Easy peasy 2019 Ducato shite

Mine where done this year. Im going to blank them off with a metal plate. Don't need them with remote control and odds of the Remote not working very slim.

We also always use the remote and I think there is a way to disconnect/unhook the lock activator inside the door frame. We can always use the hab door and hook it back up if the remote fails....but why should it.

Blanking the socket off with a plate looks like a more obvious deterrent........hoe will you do it

 

[Monty don]

I have designed a small plate about the size of a 2 p piece and you glue it over the lock
That will stop anyone just coming along and putting a screw driver in the lock and twisting it and buggering it up

If you don't stop that you will always get your lock buggered even if they cant open the door much etc from other devises inside

Only option really to solve the screw driver lock attick

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