Dipstick Stuck!

[Calamaster]

Hi,
First post here.
I have Autotrail Cheyenne 696 2006 - Ducato 28 JTD.
My Dipstick won't come out?! Now, please stop laughing and give us a hand here.
1. Have tried everything Interweb has suggested - no Joy
2. It comes out about 10 inches and then jams
3. Can anyone trace a Parts Diagram that shows Dipstick and Case Part numbers / Where to Order?
Help much appreciated

 

[pappajohn]

You don't need part numbers.
Go to a Fiat Commercial dealer with your reg number and VIN and they'll be able to order it.
The VIN will tell them everything they need to know.
It does sound like something (crankshaft!) has whacked it and bent the end over (though god knows how) so even with the new parts it still may mean the sump off to straighten it to get it out.
The tube may be a press fit in the crankcase.

 

[Carolyn and Kev]

I nearly fell off my chair laughing at this sorry!! Its a straight length of twisted spring wire ! Give it a good pull!
Makes a change to some of the serious stuff on here! Lol

Pappajohn...It sits away from the crankshaft. It cannot get caught at all.

 

[Bart]

I'm sure they are made out of the sort of metal that ends loads before it breaks ( hense how it is stuck bent and did not break when it got bent.
When you pull it out to the point that it sticks can you hear it hitting anything like the crank? And I take it you can push and pull it out that little bit without any problems.

 

[SuperMike]

I agree, you need something to give you good purchase other than one or two fingers, then give it a serious pull, methinks.

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[pappajohn]

Pappajohn...It sits away from the crankshaft. It cannot get caught at all.

I know, but it sounds like something bent it. If it won't come out because it's bent it sure as hell wouldn't go in bent

 

[mike mcglynn]

Needs some oil on it

 

[Carolyn and Kev]

Actually ....The push method past the gimp halfway down the tube..can be enough to bend it! Lol
If it has the Plastic level paddle on the base ...it could (Only possibly..) have come away and thus prevents it coming up the tube. It cannot with huge respect ..catch the crankshaft at all.

Kev

 

[vin0114]

sme git had the sump off and did a naughty???

 

[Calamaster]

Hi All,
Thanks for the quick responses. Please don't laugh at my Dipstick! Wife and Garage Secretary were laughing enough already!!

As stated it's a Spring and I have pulled it as hard as I dare before the spring itself will start to unravel! My 4Ft Dipstck gets about 1Ft out before jamming on some 'internals'... like they do...lol

Had its MOT today and Mechanic had a go as well with same result. It is quite bizarre as I have worked on umpteen engines before without ever getting this problem.

Was hoping there was some 'trick' to this, if anyone else had the same issue.
I have tried all the Junkies for the parts but no avail.
Looks like off to Fiat Commercial for a new one.

Thanks

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[Carolyn and Kev]

Just a thought.....Try as you pull it out, to 'unscrew' it? The spring steel is wound up in a way to be rigid yet flexible. If when you pull it to the point of it sticking..you twist in the opposite direction as if unscrewing a bolt..you may find it can work..lol

 

[Deneb]

I was going to ask if you'd tried twisting it. If that doesn't work, to be honest I'd go for pulling the dipstick tube out rather than trying to pull the dipstick itself. The tube is only a push fit in the engine block. If you keep pulling the dipstick and break it off, you will have a sump off job to retrieve the rest!

 

[Carolyn and Kev]

AS Deneb says.. The tube is a push in fit bordering on the tight side for obvious reasons. Molegrips and a good yank should suffice.

Yank as in Pull lol

 

[Yorick]

Dynamite is your friend.

 

[Macca1954]

Kevand Carolyn on the best bet screw it clockwise “I think” and pull at the same time the dipstick I mean

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[Calamaster]

Thanks Peeps,
As I said I have tried all Interweb fix advice and no joy.
Yanked, Pulled, Nudged, Twisted, Turned, Tossed, Bent, Blown Compressed Air...etc etc
You name it I have done it.
Me DIPSTICK just refuses to come out of the hole!! (lucky for some ...lol)

 

[Bluemooner]

Yanked, Pulled, Nudged, Twisted, Turned, Tossed, Bent, Blown

Can't think of anything else to do with your dipstick

 

[MyrtleGuru]

Dynamite is your friend.

Funny you should say that.

I once had a car that, unbeknown to me, had been leaking petrol into the oil sump. I had the bonnet up with the engine running, when there was an almighty bang as the petrol fumes in the sump ignited. The dipstick whistled past my ear like a missile and shot a couple of hundred feet across the playing field I was parked next to.

 

[vin0114]

Maybe some idiot who had the sump off damaged it?

 

[M-J]

Have you tried WD40

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[tonyidle]

Push it back in (assuming you can), turn through 180 degrees, then pull it out.

 

[Calamaster]

Thanks Peeps,
As I said I have tried all Interweb fix advice and no joy.
Yanked, Pulled, Nudged, Twisted, Turned, Tossed, Bent, Blown Compressed Air...etc etc
You name it I have done it.
Me DIPSTICK just refuses to come out of the hole!! (lucky for some ...lol)

 

[Carolyn and Kev]

What ever the answer is...please come back and let us all know? Ideally a picture? This is a seriously good one! It has to be something really stupid? I has to be??
Have you thought of the idea Deneb had come up with? It does come out with a bit of brute force. The tube and stick that is!
The hole in the block has got to be big enough for it all to come out then trust me it will come out!

Kev

 

[Calamaster]

I quite like the Idea of 'Easing out the casing' of said Dipstick as it is a push fit.
Will give that a whirl and post pics result.

 

[mikebeaches]

Trust you can sort it, but unfortunately, I think you've used up all of your 5 free posts without being a subscribing member....

So here's hoping you'll join and let us know the outcome, and of course get lots more 'helpful' advice, not to mention plenty of banter.

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[old-mo]

Trust you can sort it, but unfortunately, I think you've used up all of your 5 free posts without being a subscribing member....

So here's hoping you'll join and let us know the outcome, and of course get lots more 'helpful' advice, not to mention plenty of banter.

He will be back.....

 

[Silver-Fox]

Most dip sticks go into a tube before going through the block and into the sump.

The tubes are usually held in place with a bracket and an interference fit into the block.

Have you tried removing the tube?

 

[pappajohn]

I quite like the Idea of 'Easing out the casing' of said Dipstick as it is a push fit.
Will give that a whirl and post pics result.

Unless you pay your £15 subs you won't.
You used your five free posts and can now read the forum only.

 

[denisejoe]

What’s the point of a replacement if you can’t get the old one out

 

[tonka]

Who remembers the CB radio days. ?
Can't beat some "lipstick on the dipstick" that certainly loosen things up.

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