Croatia has built the bridge avoiding Bosnia. 👍

[bobandjanie]

Já não precisa de atravessar a Bósnia para correr a Croácia de uma ponta à outra

Viagem que antes demorava 59 minutos e dez quilómetros entre os postos fronteiriços, agora demora 22 minutos ao longo de 2,4 quilómetros de ponte sobre o mar Adriático

cnnportugal.iol.pt

Bob.

 

[Figaro]

Built by China apparently

 

[bobandjanie]

Built by China apparently

 

[NicandJay]

Their tender was a massive 20% less than cheapest European tender. All Chinese labour too. Scary times

 

[jongood]

Their tender was a massive 20% less than cheapest European tender. All Chinese labour too. Scary times

I wonder what the payment terms are?

anyone in any doubt about Chinese agenda, should check the Belfer Centre's paper on debt book diplomacy.

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[Otter Spotter]

Let’s see how long it lasts then! Hope they didn’t bring their own materials from China.

 

[Guigsy]

China are investing huge sums of money into infrastructure projects. They've done it a lot in Africa. With very onerous terms on the loans, so if the state fails to make a payment, they default and China become the owner.

 

[Wildbill]

The yellow Perle from the east ther taking over the world
Bill

 

[Wildbill]

Their tender was a massive 20% less than cheapest European tender. All Chinese labour too. Scary times

Not much helth and safety I would think.
Bill

 

[rangi]

China are investing huge sums of money into infrastructure projects. They've done it a lot in Africa. With very onerous terms on the loans, so if the state fails to make a payment, they default and China become the owner.

They are doing the same with the small Pacific Island Nations "we will build a harbour for you"

The catch is??? The Chinese Navy can use it as a base!!

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[jongood]

But no worries guys, keep on supporting them by buying your I phones, Batteries & diesel heaters and a massive percentage of everything else and it will probably be mostly ok for our generation, I mean they re obviously about to take over several nations but they re all miles away so why bother.................

 

[Mousy]

We used the bridge recently. Huge amount of work and it all looked fantastic. We wondered where the money had come from.

We stopped overnight near Ston. I enjoyed some quiet beach time whilst Martin and our son walked the 5km walls, longest and oldest in Europe apparently.

 

[The Wino]

If any other country doesn't like the Chinese taking over influence over other nations stump up the money.

 

[jongood]

If any other country doesn't like the Chinese taking over influence over other nations stump up the money.

the point is that they are deliberately suckering poor countries into debts they know they can't afford. it will be too late when us western dummies realise that we are surrounded. Hambantota port in Sri Lanka is a really good example.

 

[JJ]

the point is that they are deliberately suckering poor countries into debts they know they can't afford. it will be too late when us western dummies realise that we are surrounded. Hambantota port in Sri Lanka is a really good example.

I would interested to know your sources...

JJ

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[busby]

The yellow Perle from the east ther taking over the world
Bill

Mentioned in the Bible,,beware the yellow peril.BUSBY

 

[jongood]

I would interested to know your sources...

JJ

China’s Debtbook Diplomacy: How China is Turning Bad Loans into Strategic Investments

Through its Belt and Road Initiative, China is extending hundreds of billions of dollars in loans to developing countries that often can’t afford to pay them back. In doing so, Beijing may be looking beyond its bottom line, hoping to convert economic loss into geopolitical gain.

www.belfercenter.org

 

[chaser]

But no worries guys, keep on supporting them by buying your I phones, Batteries & diesel heaters and a massive percentage of everything else and it will probably be mostly ok for our generation, I mean they re obviously about to take over several nations but they re all miles away so why bother.................

What's the alternative, no one else is making these things?

 

[VXman]

Let’s see how long it lasts then! Hope they didn’t bring their own materials from China.

Take a visit to China and see the quality of some of the infrastructure projects over there. The bridge/tunnel across the sea from Hong Kong to Macau, the high speed train lines across China. Their skill has improved drastically over the last 30 years with the experience they have had at home and across the world. I wouldn't expect their work to be any worse than any British infrastructure - just they wouldn't take 30 years to build something!

 

[EuroTrotters]

What's the alternative, no one else is making these things?

Yea crazy is it not ?.

All the skills and workforce in Europe but we get it from china.

Stena Lines fleet and leased out fleet are a prime example

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[jongood]

What's the alternative, no one else is making these things ?

The alternative is that we need to bring in import restrictions of some kind to limit how much control China has markets; What is China's objective? is it just money or is it the unbreakable link between money and power?

Seriously next time you re shopping have a look at where things are made, you will find a massive proportion are made in China/PRC, much of the clothing - even stuff with Union Jack logo's on will say deigned in UK but then the cloth label will say China. Its truly Shocking, Most Power tools including Bosch, in fact much of what is in the DIY stores, electronics, phones, light bulbs, MG cars etc.

Tbc I'm not on a buy british campaign - what I'm saying is its not good for so much of the stuff we use to come from one country, especially when that country is in effect a one party autocracy with a terrible attitude to the well being of its own citizens. It would be very easy to get infrastructure projects done here if we just bulldozed any objectors.

 

[EuroTrotters]

The alternative is that we need to bring in import restrictions of some kind to limit how much control China has markets; What is China's objective? is it just money or is it the unbreakable link between money and power?

Seriously next time you re shopping have a look at where things are made, you will find a massive proportion are made in China/PRC, much of the clothing - even stuff with Union Jack logo's on will say deigned in UK but then the cloth label will say China. Its truly Shocking, Most Power tools including Bosch, in fact much of what is in the DIY stores, electronics, phones, light bulbs, MG cars etc.

Tbc I'm not on a buy british campaign - what I'm saying is its not good for so much of the stuff we use to come from one country, especially when that country is in effect a one party autocracy with a terrible attitude to the well being of its own citizens. It would be very easy to get infrastructure projects done here if we just bulldozed any objectors.

I did a clear out for my elderly neighbour who was emigrating to Canada with his daughter.

He gave me a load of power tools. All the recent ones were made in china.

However, the ones that were not that old were made in Europe. Bosch drill from Switzerland, Bosch sander from Eastern Europe and an Angle grinder from Romania. So what’s happened in the last decade or so?.

 

[SpeedyDux]

I did a clear out for my elderly neighbour who was emigrating to Canada with his daughter.

He gave me a load of power tools. All the recent ones were made in china.

However, the ones that were not that old were made in Europe. Bosch drill from Switzerland, Bosch sander from Eastern Europe and an Angle grinder from Romania. So what’s happened in the last decade or so?.

It is easy to be fooled by branding. My recent purchases of cordless garden equipment started with a lawnmower that I mistakenly believed was from a Swedish manufacturer. I thought: yippee! Then I discovered it was made in China but by then I was locked into that marque because I had bought the expensive 40v lithium batteries and charger. So I bought the corresponding strimmer and leaf blower that share the same battery.

I understand that (almost?) all the cordless gadgets and tools on sale in the UK are really from 3 Chinese manufacturers. It is a Chinese monopoly in all but name.

 

[jongood]

I did a clear out for my elderly neighbour who was emigrating to Canada with his daughter.

He gave me a load of power tools. All the recent ones were made in china.

However, the ones that were not that old were made in Europe. Bosch drill from Switzerland, Bosch sander from Eastern Europe and an Angle grinder from Romania. So what’s happened in the last decade or so?.

In Bosch's case they are now trying to survive off their previous history off producing high quality tools by putting their badge on anything they can make a buck on. It went to Eastern Europe where the standard of living steadily rose and wages with it so now production has gone to the far east where competition rules are somewhat different.

 

[rod_vw]

Back to the original photo, I've seen something like that in France which which had an English architect, Norman Foster. Did the Chinese steal some designs? The Chinese version looks very similar!

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[jongood]

Back to the original photo, I've seen something like that in France which which had an English architect, Norman Foster. Did the Chinese steal some designs? The Chinese version looks very similar!
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we went over it 2 week s ago, its nothing like the drama and size of Millau.

 

[EuroTrotters]

Lets face it.

If you were boarding an Airplane and it said "Made In China" on the side, what are you going to do?.

I aint getting on it.

 

[Gingernuts]

Back on topic…….
I’m glad they built the bridge as when I crossed the wee bit Bosnian coast the guy at the border had an eye patch and a hook for a hand toting a mahoosive machine gun with the bullets on a belt hinging oot it!
Nothing says welcome to Bosnia better than that!!!!

 

[MattR]

Bosnia is one of the most interesting and stunning countries in Europe. It is well worth an explore.