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[sallylillian]

It’s a tax dodge thing. Register it as a second home and pay Council Tax, call it a holiday let with the intention of renting it for a minimum period and it’s a business and doesn’t attract Council tax. Instead you get to claim small business rate tax relief, up to 100% in some circumstances. So, what happens in the circumstances discussed in this thread? You visit Cornwall, stay in your ‘business’ Council Tax free, benefit from tax relief plus the emergency measures recently announced by government to support business. No additional local charge for ignoring official advice and being an asshole! As a business they’re also expected to use commercial rubbish collection services, but guess what? Yesterday on a community feed I saw a local resident who owns a holiday home, advertising use of her ‘business’ free of charge to a vulnerable person who needs to self-isolate. Contrast that to the ‘I’ve paid for it so sod you lot’ attitude.

That whole "tax avoidance plan" had never crossed my mind before and see what a great wheeze it is. I hope HMRC look for benefit in kind for the weeks occupied, and at at the going rate through their tax returns!

 

[therealvicz]

Updated 20/03

[Withdrawn] [Withdrawn] Guidance on social distancing for everyone in the UK

www.gov.uk

This document doesn’t advise against private travel within the UK...

 

[orridge]

This document doesn’t advise against private travel within the UK...

This one Friday night is a bit more clearer and looks like they have not updated the version you refer to.

Government announces further measures on social distancing

Entertainment and hospitality premises to close temporarily and people urged to only travel if absolutely essential.

www.gov.uk

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[Ivory55]

So it looks like the rest of the uk has to put up with what ever they are given but Cornwall has special rights. Yes that sounds ok.

 

[7735]

I don’t thi

I afraid if they have been paying all this time and not had cause to cost anything I would think they see it as ok. If I had paid for something I would want it, you could argue the local is no more entitled then them as they have both paid in . If someone from Cornwall gets taken ill in another part of the country will they be refused medical help. Where does it stop.

I don’t think money comes into it, wether they have paid council tax or not doesnt matter. I would put these selfish people in the same category as the shelf strippers and their “ me first and sod the rest of you” Just stay at home, we have a brand new M/h on the driveway and it doesn’t look if we are going to be able to use it any time soon but you just have to get on with it.
Spongy

 

[Ivory55]

I don’t thi

I don’t think money comes into it, wether they have paid council tax or not doesnt matter. I would put these selfish people in the same category as the shelf strippers and their “ me first and sod the rest of you” Just stay at home, we have a brand new M/h on the driveway and it doesn’t look if we are going to be able to use it any time soon but you just have to get on with it.
Spongy

Like I said are the royals going to their holiday weekend home ?

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[Ivory55]

We have a load of 2nd homes here in Norfolk, Cornwall is nothing special. They want to get over themselves.

 

[rangi]

Having moaned and bitched about it,

"all they there bleddy diseased Emmets cummin' down 'ere infesting the place"

Reality should tell us that every July August we suffer a similar set of circumstances with the arrival of the Holiday Makers. Most of them seem incapable of reading warning signs,

"SWIM BETWEEN THE FLAGS!"
"I will bloody well swim where I want too, especially at night with a skinfull of grog "

Actually had a couple last year walk over a cliff!

The A&E gets swamped every year at that time so we should be used to it I suppose, and, they do bring money into the County.

When I was growing there was a saying floating around,

"It takes an Englishman a year to save up for his holiday, a Cornishman will have it off him in a fortnight!"

 

[The Coops]

Whats an Emmet? is it the same as a Chizzit? *How much is it?*

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[Tinker2]

Emmits are Ants, it's what the locals used to call anyone from out of the County. I myself am one and I have been here for close on 50 years. In Devon they call us all Grockles.

 

[The Coops]

yep thought so we call em Chizzits up north as all they say is How much is it or to a non dialect speaker Owmuchisit!

 

[Captain Pants]

We have a load of 2nd homes here in Norfolk, Cornwall is nothing special. They want to get over themselves.

I hope there doesn’t come a time when a Norfolk hospital doctor has to make the life or death decision whether you get the only ventilator available or Jeremy visiting his holiday home from Kensington! Then you finally might understand the point that several people have been trying to make to you!

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[Ivory55]

I hope there doesn’t come a time when a Norfolk hospital doctor has to make the life or death decision whether you get the only ventilator available or Jeremy visiting his holiday home from Kensington! Then you finally might understand the point that several people have been trying to make to you!

I am fully sure that if Liz is up at sandringham and there is only one ventilator, it will not be me who gets it. Even though I live here.

 

[Captain Pants]

I have a view, but couldn’t possibly disclose it here.

 

[Ivory55]

It strikes me Cornwall is quite happy to take the money but not pay out. What about if you live out near Skegness it’s a long single track road back to Boston the closest hospital which is on special needs (it’s in the poo) so more likely to have to go to Nottingham. Yet Cornwall seems to think it’s something special.

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[Janine]

I am fully sure that if Liz is up at sandringham and there is only one ventilator, it will not be me who gets it. Even though I live here.

I am pretty sure Liz will have her own ventilator so you'll be fine

 

[Ivory55]

I am pretty sure Liz will have her own ventilator so you'll be fine

She has our local gp on speed dial. She and the rest of the family have for years now. Just standard practice.
A few years back it used to be Clare goose the actresses dad who was on call/speed dial

 

[sallylillian]

It strikes me Cornwall is quite happy to take the money but not pay out. What about if you live out near Skegness it’s a long single track road back to Boston the closest hospital which is on special needs (it’s in the poo) so more likely to have to go to Nottingham. Yet Cornwall seems to think it’s something special.

Exactly how much money per human life do you have in mind.

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[Ivory55]

Well if I had paid my tax on a 2nd home, clue being home. I would feel perfectly entitled to be there. Cornwall is coming across as rather selfish and me me me. We have 2nd homes here in Norfolk to , you’re nothing special.

 

[sallylillian]

Well if I had paid my tax on a 2nd home, clue being home. I would feel perfectly entitled to be there. Cornwall is coming across as rather selfish and me me me. We have 2nd homes here in Norfolk to , you’re nothing special.

I still revert you to my question as the facts surrounding the resources in Cornwall are clear, an influx from other areas will inevitably increase the viral distribution. So how much per human life.

 

[Ivory55]

I revert to if it’s their home even if it’s a 2nd they are entitled to use it. Or maybe you will back London in clearing asylum, migrants, and foreign property owners out as the resources are needed for London. It seems just like the Lloyds list people happy to take the money, then cry when it’s time to pay out. Cornwall is no different or special to Norfolk, get over your self.

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[Captain Pants]

I revert to if it’s their home even if it’s a 2nd they are entitled to use it. Or maybe you will back London in clearing asylum, migrants, and foreign property owners out as the resources are needed for London. It seems just like the Lloyds list people happy to take the money, then cry when it’s time to pay out. Cornwall is no different or special to Norfolk, get over your self.

You don’t get it, you’ll never get it. Thank goodness for the ignore button.

 

[Tinker2]

Ivory55 I think you are arguing for the sake of it, I doubt you have any intention of coming down here, Cornwall is no different to anywhere else, it would be easier to slow down the spread should we not have a massive influx of visitors, as would your area. Take care let's put this to bed & remain friends.

 

[Ivory55]

I admit I probably won’t be coming to Cornwall. Tried it thought it was over rated and over priced especially the parking. France is not cheap but looks like a bargain compared to Cornwall. I still don’t get why Cornwall is any different than Norfolk or should be treated any different.

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[sallylillian]

get over your self.

So you lost the debate then.

 

[Paddywack]

I admit I probably won’t be coming to Cornwall. Tried it thought it was over rated and over priced especially the parking. France is not cheap but looks like a bargain compared to Cornwall. I still don’t get why Cornwall is any different than Norfolk or should be treated any different.

You tried visiting a second home in France lately?

 

[David and Sally]

I think this CV thing will make normally sensible people say things that maybe they would not normally. I guess it's a reaction to stress, uncertainty and a normal human reaction.
Maybe we all have to be more tolerant of each other. I know I'm having to think twice and say once and that's hard coming from someone who normally shoots from the hip.
This is a wonderful community. I get my daily fix of humour, information and irateness (is that a word) from this forum.

Norfolk, Cornwall, London, Scotland and everywhere else will have their emotions to deal with. Don't fall out peeps. When it's all over we need to go to a great big, huge field and have a rally. I hope someone brings some bog rolls

Chill, stay safe and be tolerant.

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[Paulypaul]

I think regardless of geography, the issue here must be the ignorance and complete disregard displayed by those people who consider themselves beyond reproach, able to move freely to wherever they choose, regardless of whether they could, or would infect other areas of the UK. All in the interest of their own self gratification.

Theres a buzz phrase being bantered about in the media "pull together". It seems that is not an ethos that has been harnessed by the panic buyers, second home owners or those muppets that think the schools are closed and industry closing down, so they can go on holiday?

It's all very sad and I fear that the UK will become the most infected country yet due to ignorance?

 

[Ivory55]

We are all in this together was said by David Cameron, that worked out well.

 

[Ivory55]

So you lost the debate then.

Says who. I still don’t get why Cornwall is any different from Norfolk or should get any special treatment to any others.

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