Adria Twin 640 SLB - Weighed

Feb 3, 2018
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Update and for info on my Adria Twin 640SLB Twin Bed

Weighed it today
Factory AWNING, SPARE WHEEL, SOLAR
TV on board
Driver and Passenger (166kg)
Full Fuel (90 litres)
Full Water (100 litres)
Empty Waste
Pots, Pans, Remoska, Griddle Pan, Clothes, Toiletries, sun chairs, 1x11kg, Ramps,EHU, Kampa wind-break, Bedding
Ready To Rumble....

No Bikes- No tow bar
Empty Fridge

1748kg front
1640kg rear

Might be useful for others to compare/reference
 
Sep 2, 2018
23
6
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55,981
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Adria Twin 600SPB
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New
I don't know if this is a silly question or not: if you weigh the rear and then the front do those two figures always add up to the total? i.e. did you weigh the whole van all at once and get 3388kg or was that just adding the two axles together?
 
Jul 29, 2013
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I would normally weigh whole van and then rear axle then deduct it from gross weight to give front.(y)(y)(y) Some weigh individual axles.
 
Apr 11, 2015
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since 1988 with breaks until 2009
our local bridge , gives front then rear then total.
 

mikebeaches

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I don't know if this is a silly question or not: if you weigh the rear and then the front do those two figures always add up to the total? i.e. did you weigh the whole van all at once and get 3388kg or was that just adding the two axles together?
Should just add up, provided the the access / ground surrounding the weighbridge is level with the weighing platform. ie the van remains level, whichever axle is being weighed.
 
Sep 2, 2018
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55,981
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Adria Twin 600SPB
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New
Haha, I felt silly asking the question because it seems logical that the two halves would equal the whole. I did some experiments where I made a "van" (AKA a plastic tub with batteries taped to the bottom for wheels and a bag of nuts as cargo) and, yes, as long as the other wheels are exactly level with the ones being weighed the numbers add up. As soon as the scale is lower or higher than the grounded wheels the numbers go wrong.

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Cheshirecat57
Feb 3, 2018
1,657
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Mid Cheshire
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52,244
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Adria Twin -640SLB
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Long Enough
I don't know if this is a silly question or not: if you weigh the rear and then the front do those two figures always add up to the total? i.e. did you weigh the whole van all at once and get 3388kg or was that just adding the two axles together?
Did the front -then the whole -then the back
All added up
 

Minxy Girl

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Its unusual for the front axle to have more weight on it than the rear ... are you SURE your combined 'human' weight is correct? :imoutahere:
 
Jan 22, 2012
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Did the front -then the whole -then the back
All added up
Due to pick up my Adria Matrix 26th and I want to get it weighed but the weighbridge close to us in Wigan has closed down. I noticed you are Cheshire based so where did you get it weighed.
 
Aug 7, 2017
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Due to pick up my Adria Matrix 26th and I want to get it weighed but the weighbridge close to us in Wigan has closed down. I noticed you are Cheshire based so where did you get it weighed.
Which Matrix are you buying and what spec, incl engine and transmission spec etc. I only ask since I did an assessment on Adria payloads (A-Class and Coachbuilt) the other day and found some to be fairly poor in the 3.5T weight class.
 
Jan 22, 2012
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Knaus Sun TI 2012
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Which Matrix are you buying and what spec, incl engine and transmission spec etc. I only ask since I did an assessment on Adria payloads (A-Class and Coachbuilt) the other day and found some to be fairly poor in the 3.5T weight class.
Maybe you could help me then. Its a Matrix Supreme 670 DC 150bhp and automatic gearbox. According to the Adria site the payload is 450kg. While i'm waiting for the completion I am looking for things to fill my time and have taken to obsessively weighing everything that will go in it. I reckon all of the 'equipment' will come to about 250. That doesn't include fuel and water, missus and dog. Some people say that an amount of fuel and water will be included in the MIRO but not sure. What do you think?
 
Jan 22, 2012
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19,541
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Knaus Sun TI 2012
Exp
2010
Which Matrix are you buying and what spec, incl engine and transmission spec etc. I only ask since I did an assessment on Adria payloads (A-Class and Coachbuilt) the other day and found some to be fairly poor in the 3.5T weight class.
Just spotted your analysis page...impressive but disappointing. The only redeeming factor would be that I don't have the solar panel. So what would that weigh?
 
Aug 26, 2008
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The nearest public weighbridge to me is at the B&NES waste transfer station in Midland Road, Bath.

"To use this site you must wear steel toe-capped boots and a hi-viz jacket." Well, that rules me out.
 
Aug 7, 2017
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Just spotted your analysis page...impressive but disappointing. The only redeeming factor would be that I don't have the solar panel. So what would that weigh?
I'm pleased you've seen it but, that said, it will be an interesting exercise to see what my own interpretation of the technical catalogue is when compared to your realtime figures.

In all honesty I'm just a potential punter looking at the brochure so I could be entirely wrong and my waffle could be just that :D

All the best,

Andrew
 
Jan 22, 2012
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I'm pleased you've seen it but, that said, it will be an interesting exercise to see what my own interpretation of the technical catalogue is when compared to your realtime figures.

In all honesty I'm just a potential punter looking at the brochure so I could be entirely wrong and my waffle could be just that :D

All the best,

Andrew
No, i'm grateful to you as you have started to get me thinking. I have just been out for a drive and have discovered two weighbridges next door to each other in Westhoughton , right next to the M61. If all goes to plan I can pick up motorhome on 26th drive down m6 and m61 and have it weighed. That's my starting point prior to loading the stuff I've already weighed.
 
Apr 12, 2010
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11,027
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Adria twin van conversion
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since 2007
Front. 1440
Rear. 1960
Gross. 3400
This was fully loaded with everything ready to travel. Including a Sym 200 hdi scooter and rack.
I was amazed.
Phil
 
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Cheshirecat57
Feb 3, 2018
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Its unusual for the front axle to have more weight on it than the rear ... are you SURE your combined 'human' weight is correct? :imoutahere:
I thought that as well
Weights of humans correct
90 litres diesel is 80+ kilos
Anyone else's heavier at the front ( keep it clean)
 
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Cheshirecat57
Feb 3, 2018
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So if I strapped 150 kg to the back ( scooter) and shed the ballast from the passenger seat, I suspect we would be very similar in total and my axle bias would shift rearwards (y)
 
Jan 22, 2012
512
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Wigan
Funster No
19,541
MH
Knaus Sun TI 2012
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2010
I'm pleased you've seen it but, that said, it will be an interesting exercise to see what my own interpretation of the technical catalogue is when compared to your realtime figures.

In all honesty I'm just a potential punter looking at the brochure so I could be entirely wrong and my waffle could be just that :D

All the best,

Andrew
Just picked up my new Adria Matrix Supreme 670 DC. Really impressed with the van, however I've got to say you weren't that far out with your weight estimates. I took it straight to the weighbridge and weighed it with both of us off the weighbridge and it came in at 3180kg. That was with one full gas bottle, no water and about 22 litres of diesel. That's very little payload. A little disappointed with those figures so it looks like we'll have to have it re plated. Not sure how I go about doing that and we expect to be leaving for France and Spain in a couple of weeks so unlikely to get it done in time.
 
Aug 7, 2017
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Ducato Maxi PVC
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Sep 2016
Just picked up my new Adria Matrix Supreme 670 DC. Really impressed with the van, however I've got to say you weren't that far out with your weight estimates. I took it straight to the weighbridge and weighed it with both of us off the weighbridge and it came in at 3180kg. That was with one full gas bottle, no water and about 22 litres of diesel. That's very little payload. A little disappointed with those figures so it looks like we'll have to have it re plated. Not sure how I go about doing that and we expect to be leaving for France and Spain in a couple of weeks so unlikely to get it done in time.
It's really good of you to post-up your findings but 3,180kg without people, water, fuel and gear will not give you much to play with sir.
 
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