Tyres: Are Michelin really worth an extra £500? (1 Viewer)

[russ the rambler]

my van is in the MOT today and I’m collecting tomorrow

all 6 tyres (twin axle) are perished and 1 is a failure. The others are 'advisory'

i don’t mind replacing them all, but 6 * Michelin tyres are £500 more than 6 * Falcon 'standard' tyres

is it really worth it? The fact they perished before wearing out is a message

or are Michelin tyres better for some other reason?

I’m very much tempted to go for the cheaper tyres but interested to hear any thoughts, thanks

 

[Lenny HB]

If you are referring to Michelin Caping Tyres, I think they are about the worse tyres you can put on a Motorhome, harsh ride poor grip and wear rate none too good. Glad to get rid of mine, I now have Toyo tyres.

 

[russ the rambler]

they are Michelin 116Q if that helps

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[Lenny HB]

Thats the load rating camping tyres denoted by CP a standard commercial tyre is C.

 

[Two on Tour]

Fitted Hankook Vantra LT RA18 to our MH to replace the crap Continental Vanco Camper tyres.

 

[Peter & Elaine]

Hankooks for me
4 season are better in winter by far and less road noise
down side slightly less life due to softer compound

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[Drexxer]

I replaced my Michelin Camper tyres with Bridgestone Blizzacks on reccomendation from a fellow Funster, they are far quieter than the Michelins and offer far better grip, 3 peaks symbol and I run them all year round, done 7500 miles on them this last year and not showing any undue wear

 

[Phill D]

I will be off CP tyres at the next change.

 

[JohnJan]

Assuming the Michelin and Falcon are both motorhome rated tyres, it's really down to you if you have a spare £500 however tyres and brakes are the most important bits on a vehicle and quality tyres do last longer and will have a lower DBa noise rating, and they'll perform better in water by dispersing more water. It would be worth specifying "New" tyres when you go to get either fitted as a tyre will show when it was actually made and it has a life starting from then, a bit like us, only theirs is defined at 10 years, bearing in mind you'll probably require replacements due to mileage, pandemics notwithstanding!!!
My choice would be the Michelin or a similar quality tyre, Continental, Bridgestone and the like.

If like below the tyres are already 2 years old, it would be reasonable to say they've got a maximum working life of 8 years left so discount the price as a percentage of 10 years minus life gone.

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[fat haggis]

No

 

[Lenny HB]

Assuming the Michelin and Falcon are both motorhome rated tyres,

Only Michelin & Continental make camping tyres, Michelins are an awful tyre glad to get rid of them and fit standard commercial tyres, quieter far better grip. I fitted Toyo Observe van winter tyres and use them all year round.

 

[russ the rambler]

thanks i went for the mid range falcons

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[Phill D]

only theirs is defined at 10 years, bearing in mind you'll probably require replacements due to mileage, pandemics notwithstanding!!!


If like below the tyres are already 2 years old, it would be reasonable to say they've got a maximum working life of 8 years left so discount the price as a percentage of 10 years minus life gone.



I am quite surprised by the 10 year claim thats a very long time on a Motorhome. i thought it was more like 6 ish years to be safe with the constant loads on our vehicles.

 

[Nasher]

If you look at the EU Tyre label, You will find that:

Michelin Agilis Camping 225/75 R16CP 116Q has a rating of:

C for economy
B for grip
70db for noise

The Hankook RA18 Vantra LT of the same size has:

C for economy
C for grip
70db for noise

Make sure when you compare, that the sizes are the same for each tyre, as the ratings can differ between sizes for the same brand and type of tyre

 

[SpeedyDux]

Seems like zero fans of Michelin CPs on this thread I will be looking for a different brand when mine are due to be replaced. Boneshaker ride, on all but the smoothest road surface, which may be OK in France but hopeless here. Fingers crossed for a Fun syndicate jackpot tomorrow!

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[Two on Tour]

If you look at the EU Tyre label, You will find that:

Michelin Agilis Camping 225/75 R16CP 116Q has a rating of:

C for economy
B for grip
70db for noise

The Hankook RA18 Vantra LT of the same size has:

C for economy
C for grip
70db for noise

Make sure when you compare, that the sizes are the same for each tyre, as the ratings can differ between sizes for the same brand and type of tyre

The size of Hankook RA18 Vantra LT on our MH

C for economy
B for grip
70db for noise

 

[Nasher]

The size of Hankook RA18 Vantra LT on our MH

C for economy
B for grip
70db for noise

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As I posted originally, the tyre size is relevant to the ratings the 225/75R16 Hankook RA18 Vantra LT has a C for grip the 225/65 has a B

 

[Two on Tour]

As I posted originally, the tyre size is relevant to the ratings the 225/75R16 Hankook RA18 Vantra LT has a C for grip the 225/65 has a B

And my post is for a 225/65 16R that is fitted to our van and your point is ?

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[Nasher]

And my post is for a 225/65 16R that is fitted to our van and your point is ?

I'm just trying to make people aware that the tyre ratings are different for each size - I posted my original post by comparing two different brands that had been mentioned and ensured that the tyre size was the same for each

I wasn't aware of either your's or the OP's tyre sizes and therefore used the first size that came up on google for the first one I typed and then compared it to the same size for the other brand

Apparently both are black & round

So my point is: make sure, when doing comparisons, that you compare the same size tyres for each type of tyre you are considering

 

[bigtwin]

Seems like zero fans of Michelin CPs on this thread I will be looking for a different brand when mine are due to be replaced. Boneshaker ride, on all but the smoothest road surface, which may be OK in France but hopeless here. Fingers crossed for a Fun syndicate jackpot tomorrow!

What pressures are you running them at?

Ian

 

[stevewagner]

Seems like zero fans of Michelin CPs on this thread I will be looking for a different brand when mine are due to be replaced. Boneshaker ride, on all but the smoothest road surface, which may be OK in France but hopeless here. Fingers crossed for a Fun syndicate jackpot tomorrow!

I love the Michelin Agilis and always have done

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[Ivory55]

What pressures are you running them at?

Ian

I was thinking that, we don’t get a bone shaking ride

 

[bigwood]

I have Continental Vancouver camper tyres fitted to our Rienza base on a Transit 300 chassis. I have always thought they were a hard ride but seem to grip well.
I was led to believe camper tyres were better if the vehicle is stood for any length of time.
I think if there is much difference in cost I will consider other makes next time.

 

[pappajohn]

I would, and have, put on the cheapest tyre I can find.
If the weight and speed ratings are the same or higher than the original fit then they are suitable AND legal

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[M-J]

I’ll be due a full set of tyres soon, looking out for recommendations based on ride comfort and road noise on 3.5t c class.

 

[DandG5515]

Our motorhome came with Bridgestone, given great life and just started replacing them with bridgestone r660 about £100 each, the Mitchelin on my Renault van have been shocking, had to scrap 2 for going oval in 3 years.

 

[JockandRita]

Michelin tyres are £500 more than 6 * Falcon 'standard' tyres

thanks i went for the mid range falcons

On our current MH, we have 6 x Falken Euroall Season Van 2. Very happy with them.
Edited............ They are M+S and 3PMSF certified.

In 16 x years of MH'ing, we have always had commercial van tyres. Our Hymer was factory fitted with Goodyear Cargo van tyres, so what does that tell you?

We have also been happy with Bridgestone Blizzak tyres in the past.

Cheers,

Jock.

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[Lenny HB]

I’ll be due a full set of tyres soon, looking out for recommendations based on ride comfort and road noise on 3.5t c class.

I find the Toyo Observe Van give a very good ride, if I had got rid of the Michelins and fitted them before the air suspension I would have saved over 7 grand. Probably wouldn't have bothered with the air.

 

[JohnJan]

It tells me that ride is down to tyres, tyre pressure, suspension, road condition, driving ability, personal bias etc. However grip, water dispersion and noise is down to science and testing.

It's very much a case of choose your weapons as clearly illustrated on this thread.

 

[Ernesto]

I was looking for tyres for the main car ... decided on Hankook as they seem a good balance of value and quality. They’ve come a long way and now are OEM suppliers to Porsche, BMW and Audi so quality can’t be bad - will definitely consider them when van tyres up for renewal