Spanish fuel pump labelling in Spain

[colyboy]

Can some one explain what all the new pump labelling is meant to be in Spain?

Types of Diesel = B7 B10 XTL

Types of Petrol= E5 E10 E85

Types of Gas= H2 CNG LPG LNG

colyboy

 

[pappajohn]

It isn't just Spain.... Its the whole of Europe plus some bordering countries too.

Gasoline:

The label for the gasoline will be represented in a circle.

• E5 up to 5% Ethanol
• E10 up to 10% Ethanol
• E85 up to 85% Ethanol

Diesel:

The label for the diesel will be represented in a square.

• B7 up to 5% of Biodiesel.
• B10 up to 10% of Biodiesel.
• XTL with synthetic diesel.

Gases:

The label of the alternative fuels will be represented in a rhombus.

• LNG for Liquefied Natural Gas.
• CNG for Compressed Natural Gas.
• LPG for Liquefied Petroleum Gas.
• H2 for Hydrogen.

 

[Madcaravanner]

It's not just Spain it's Europe

https://www.zestcarrental.com/blog/2018/10/09/changing-fuel-pump-labels-in-europe/

this will help you

 

[colyboy]

Thank you, but which deisil do I use in 2017 Hymer?

Colyboy 4

 

[TheHat]

I will be putting b7 in my rapido unless someone can prove to me b10

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[Podney]

A 2017 Hymer??!!!
Why,the dearest of course!
Seriously,haven’t got a clue. My instinct would be that the older the vehicle,the more likely it is to be OK with the max bio diesel........but someone who really does know will tell us,I’m sure.

 

[DBK]

Thank you, but which deisil do I use in 2017 Hymer?

Colyboy 4

Is there anything in the vehicle manual?

 

[pappajohn]

Thank you, but which deisil do I use in 2017 Hymer?

Colyboy 4

What do you put in now... The cheap stuff or the posh stuff.
B7 is the cheap everyday stuff
B10 is the stuff you need a mortgage for.
The other stuff, XLT, is man made diesel for drivers who think they're saving the world.

 

[Pugsy]

B7 is normal diesel as used before the new codes.
https://www.acea.be/uploads/publications/ACEA_B10_compatibility.pdf

The above link shows which vehicle can use B10 grade,which is quite a lot,but ill stick to B7 in mine.
Cheers Cris..

 

[Madcaravanner]

Been checking and eventually (ie JUST) found that the Fiat Ducato Maxi should run on Diesel to en590 standards
That is now classed as B7

so that's what we will run Maxine on PLUS it's usually the cheapest one anyway

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[Hotelman]

Is it still on the BLACK pumps ?

 

[pappajohn]

Is it still on the BLACK pumps ?

I think hose/nozzle colours vary by country
UK is black.

 

[pappajohn]

B7 is normal diesel as used before the new codes.
https://www.acea.be/uploads/publications/ACEA_B10_compatibility.pdf

The above link shows which vehicle can use B10 grade,which is quite a lot,but ill stick to B7 in mine.
Cheers Cris..

I think any engine can use the higher grade B10 in the same way an old petrol engine could use 4 or 5 star if it normally used 2 star but it wouldn't make it run any better
The other way round will have serious consequences though.

 

[Xabia]

Using B7 in my Hymer, it’s the same as the old ‘basic’ stuff, no problems at all.

I have tried the more expensive type previously but have never got anywhere near the claimed extra mpg so I now stick to the cheaper one.

 

[gus-lopez]

Thank you, but which deisil do I use in 2017 Hymer?

Colyboy 4

What engine is it ? Unless it specifically states ok on the filler for B10 don't use it. For fiats in that list it specifically states only to be used on ones with sticker.

The cheap stuff or the posh stuff.
B7 is the cheap everyday stuff
B10 is the stuff you need a mortgage for.

No that isn't correct. The existing dearer stuff has additives it isn't the same as B10 with 10% rubbish in it .
As far as I know the B7 is existing cheap & the dearer is still B7 but with additives.

Is it still on the BLACK pumps ?

I think hose/nozzle colours vary by country
UK is black.

& yellow in France is it ?

I think any engine can use the higher grade B10 in the same way an old petrol engine could use 4 or 5 star if it normally used 2 star but it wouldn't make it run any better
The other way round will have serious consequences though.

No the B10 is forbidden in many common rail engines due to the caking that can happen. In that list that shows vehicles most state B10 use is only on medels with a sticker on the filler. & with Fiat that rules out most. Asit does with other manufacturers

** in fact section 2 of the link shows that nearly everything from most manufacturers cannot use B10**unless specifically stickered

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[bobandjanie]

Ours is 2017 euro 6 and will get the same as it gets now, the cheapest we can find. Bob.

 

[Baldeagle7470]

Don’t know if this may be of any help?
Andrea printed it off and we have stuck it in the van,just in case
It’s the French version of course but Europe wide apparently.

 

[gus-lopez]

Ours is 2017 euro 6 and will get the same as it gets now, the cheapest we can find. Bob.

The cheapest place around here , Gasexpress has a pump for diesel & a pump for petrol .No choice here. apart from an extra 5 cents of tonight for halloween so that's 1,14€
Use red & you get proper diesel

 

[Paul and Val]

Ours is 2017 euro 6 and will get the same as it gets now, the cheapest we can find. Bob.

I hate paying for fuel and on our 2 month, 11 country tour we have used super tanker loads of the evil stuff but with diesel I do always when possible use the high performance stuff. Up to 14 cents more per litre but a (small) improvement in economy. The most important thing is the extra additives that help lubricate the very expensive fuel pump and keep the lines and system clean.

The really cheap supermarket stuff does lack some of the quality of the main brands. Much of the advertising with fuel is complete nonsense but do remember that a fuel pump can cost over £4,000 to replace and I think that it is a wise investment to use decent fuel in your motorhome to help avoid costly problems.

 

[HandyAndy]

Can some one explain what all the new pump labelling is meant to be in Spain?

Types of Diesel = B7 B10 XTL

Types of Petrol= E5 E10 E85

Types of Gas= H2 CNG LPG LNG

colyboy

B = Bio diesel (derived from agricultural materials)
B7 = 7% fatty acid monoalkyl esters (7% percent biodiesel and 95 percent regular diesel)
XTL = Paraffinic diesel (new design of fuel with near zero sulphur, made from from natural gas)
E = Ethanol
E5 = 5% Ethanol
H2 = Hydrogen
CNG = Methane (Compressed Natural Gas)
LPG = Propane / Butane mix (Liquid Petroleum Gas)
LNG = Methane / Ethane mix (Liquid Natural Gas)

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[bobandjanie]

I hate paying for fuel and on our 2 month, 11 country tour we have used super tanker loads of the evil stuff but with diesel I do always when possible use the high performance stuff. Up to 14 cents more per litre but a (small) improvement in economy. The most important thing is the extra additives that help lubricate the very expensive fuel pump and keep the lines and system clean.

The really cheap supermarket stuff does lack some of the quality of the main brands. Much of the advertising with fuel is complete nonsense but do remember that a fuel pump can cost over £4,000 to replace and I think that it is a wise investment to use decent fuel in your motorhome to help avoid costly problems.

Having run our own trucks for 18 years, and spent more money on diesel than I care to think about, running 44t up hill and down dale, I can honestly say that using cheap fuel never did me or the trucks any harm.
In the last 11 years our motorhomes have always been
( probably over ) serviced, but always had cheap fuel. Bob

 

[thebriars]

I hate paying for fuel and on our 2 month, 11 country tour we have used super tanker loads of the evil stuff but with diesel I do always when possible use the high performance stuff. Up to 14 cents more per litre but a (small) improvement in economy. The most important thing is the extra additives that help lubricate the very expensive fuel pump and keep the lines and system clean.

The really cheap supermarket stuff does lack some of the quality of the main brands. Much of the advertising with fuel is complete nonsense but do remember that a fuel pump can cost over £4,000 to replace and I think that it is a wise investment to use decent fuel in your motorhome to help avoid costly problems.

My OH and I both drive Euro 6 Mitsubishi diesel cars. Our local dealership has been around a long time, and the service staff have been there for many years. At the last service I inquired about using cheap supermarket diesel, and the service manager said they had only ever had one car in for repair with fuel problems, and that there was absolutely no problem with using supermarket fuels.

I wonder how many Ford Transit drivers pay for premium diesel?

 

[Podney]

I hate paying for fuel and on our 2 month, 11 country tour we have used super tanker loads of the evil stuff but with diesel I do always when possible use the high performance stuff. Up to 14 cents more per litre but a (small) improvement in economy. The most important thing is the extra additives that help lubricate the very expensive fuel pump and keep the lines and system clean.

The really cheap supermarket stuff does lack some of the quality of the main brands. Much of the advertising with fuel is complete nonsense but do remember that a fuel pump can cost over £4,000 to replace and I think that it is a wise investment to use decent fuel in your motorhome to help avoid costly problems.

Yes,supermarket fuel is rubbish.

 

[Brakers]

Hi All found this it might help someone it did me.



Best Wishes Tony

 

[autorouter]

Is it still on the BLACK pumps ?

I think hose/nozzle colours vary by country
UK is black.

Yes it definitely does vary. Once when carelessly filling up in Spain I put about 10 litres of petrol into the tank with a black coloured nozzle before I noticed the label said it was petrol. The tank was empty so I decided to just fill up with diesel (60 litres) and hope for the best. Lucky for me it worked out OK.

Now I always read the label.

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[nicholsong]

Just been to check the labelling of the pumps at Shell station across the road here in Poland.

The labels are as before but just with B7, E5 etc. added at the bottom corner.

 

[tonyidle]

I think hose/nozzle colours vary by country
UK is black.

Except at Burton M6 Services where petrol is / was black. And don't ask me how I know.