six meter rule (1 Viewer)

[tick59]

Is Motorhome Fun subject to the new ruling by Rural England??
The new rule which is now law states that Motorhomes and Caravans must now be parked six meters apart and awnings must have a gap of three meters when parked next to a van with awning out.fun!!! fun!!! fun!!!

 

[funflair]

Not at Shrewsbury New Year but don't tell anybody.

Is this a backdoor attempt at stopping "aires" before they start.

Martin

 

[Theonlysue]

Have you got a link to this please?
Is it now law?
I know that some of the mc rallies have been cancelled as it would have reduced the number of attending units.

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[Just smiffy]

Would insurers pay out if not....?

 

[GJH]

First of all it isn't a new ruling. What has happened recently is that the MCC has incorporated the 6 meter recommendation into its constitution in such a way that it has to be applied at MCC rallies.

As far as the law goes, the standards for spacing arise from S5 of the Caravan Sites and Control of Development Act 1960. There are central government model standards for static sites on the National Archives web site, but that appears to be because the legislation changed relatively recently. Model standards for touring sites were published in 1983 so have not been loaded centrally to the Internet but most councils publish their own versions, e.g. Eden Council on a link from this page.

As far as Fun is concerned Safety Spacing is covered in the Link Removed (in the resources section). The first paragraph reads:

Our insurance company dictates that a minimum spacing of 6 metres is required between motorhomes. There should also be 3 metres clear around the entire outfit; where an outfit is taken to mean and include the motorhome (or caravan) an awning room, pup tent, trailer and car. When siting vans remember that emergency vehicles should also be able to secure access at all times to within 50 metres of any Motorhome on the site.

 

[Detnor]

There was a small incident at the Welland Steam rally on the camping field this year, this had the organisers checking gaps.

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[The Cruisers]

There's have been two serious incidents over the last 9 months that I am personally aware of. Now I am a bit of a stickler if I am asked to park up too close to another van. I know it means that some rallies have to be cancelled if not enough room but if it saves lives ...... it should be adhered to. That's my opinion.

 

[Deleted member 29692]

Pretty much every music festival in the country will be interesting next year if this nonsense is universally applied.

It makes me even more glad that we don't tour in this country.

 

[Allanm]

Luckily, the rest of Europe doesn't impose these stupid rules, maybe fires on the continent aren't as hot as the UK!

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[Landy lover]

When we are marshalling RVOC rallies we are pedantic about the 6 metre rule often to the annoyance of some who cannot or will not understand the risk they are putting themselves and their neighbours under in the rare event of a problem. As a marshal you are often given an area which is slightly smaller than the required and expected to work within it. Lets face it the first to whinge if anything goes wrong will be the ones who whinge because you tell them where they need to park a particular way round and in a particular location and no they cannot park awning to awning with their bestest mate.

 

[Zepp]

Makes you wonder why they have all these silly rules

 

[GJH]

Pretty much every music festival in the country will be interesting next year if this nonsense is universally applied.

It makes me even more glad that we don't tour in this country.

We used to take part in civil war reenactment and the stupid overcrowding had to be seen to be believed.

It makes me glad we don't do that any more.

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[MitchandJenny]

Who will tell our FFFFFFfffffrench cousins ??
They LOVE to "nestle"up close. .
Mitch.

 

[Allanm]

We used to take part in civil war reenactment and the stupid overcrowding had to be seen to be believed.

It makes me glad we don't do that any more.

I guess hand to hand combat would have been less fun if you had to be 6 metres away from the next person........

 

[bigguspeckus]

When we are marshalling RVOC rallies we are pedantic about the 6 metre rule often to the annoyance of some who cannot or will not understand the risk they are putting themselves and their neighbours under in the rare event of a problem. As a marshal you are often given an area which is slightly smaller than the required and expected to work within it. Lets face it the first to whinge if anything goes wrong will be the ones who whinge because you tell them where they need to park a particular way round and in a particular location and no they cannot park awning to awning with their bestest mate.

Issa requirement init Borr,,, ya carrnt be a marrshell less'n ya arr peedantick?!

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[chaser]

We used to take part in civil war reenactment and the stupid overcrowding had to be seen to be believed.

It makes me glad we don't do that any more.

Sounds as if you survived though

 

[GJH]

I guess hand to hand combat would have been less fun if you had to be 6 metres away from the next person........

Sounds as if you survived though

I stuck to first aid. Not daft enough to put my 'ead in the way of a big stick

 

[burtonbird]

Yet static caravans on holiday sites just about have room to park a car between them. Seems like one rule for some and one for the rest!!!

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[Steve101uk]

most of my motorhoming is mostly in France and I have often been a metre or two from my neighbour. le Crotoy or Honfluer aires have hundreds of motohomes parked within a few metres of each other.

Just looked around the side of my house and noticed next door is about a metre from my house and the other side we have linked garages.....

has there ever been a fire situation in an aire in France, or anywhere in Europe that could have been avoided by the 6 metre rule?

 

[Sidney]

Six meters?

That's quite close

 

[Gizmouk]

Just as well petrol isn't flammable, that'd really bugger car parks up .
Oh, hang on ...

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[gus-lopez]

most of my motorhoming is mostly in France and I have often been a metre or two from my neighbour. le Crotoy or Honfluer aires have hundreds of motohomes parked within a few metres of each other.

Just looked around the side of my house and noticed next door is about a metre from my house and the other side we have linked garages.....

has there ever been a fire situation in an aire in France, or anywhere in Europe that could have been avoided by the 6 metre rule?

Yes , someone posted it early this year or end of last. In Italy I think.

 

[PORKSTER]

That could mess up festivals race meetings etc etc etc

 

[Jaws]

That could mess up festivals race meetings etc etc etc

Well given the 'rule' has been around for donkeys years it has not caused too much grief so far !

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[shawn&emma]

Just as well petrol isn't flammable, that'd really bugger car parks up .
Oh, hang on ...[/QUOTE

Music festival in Portugal this year. Long tinderbox grass lots of glass and hot exhaust, what could go wrong lol.

Thankfully no injuries.

 

[Silver-Fox]

most of my motorhoming is mostly in France and I have often been a metre or two from my neighbour. le Crotoy or Honfluer aires have hundreds of motohomes parked within a few metres of each other.

Just looked around the side of my house and noticed next door is about a metre from my house and the other side we have linked garages.....

has there ever been a fire situation in an aire in France, or anywhere in Europe that could have been avoided by the 6 metre rule?

Houses are built in such a way you have some time to exit the building before it engulfs the one not on fire

 

[two]

We don't have enough space left in this country to adopt that rule. As others have pointed out, they don't subscribe to such notions in Europe (even though they have much more space there) and I'm not aware of anyone complaining about it over there, so one of us must be a little misguided.

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[bigguspeckus]

Houses are built in such a way you have some time to exit the building before it engulfs the one not on fire

Ahh Borr, but yar carnt drive yar ouse aways frompt t'one burnin next t'ya, canya?! Thassa little gem far'ya'arwl from dun ear in Narfuk.

 

[Zepp]

has there ever been a fire situation in an aire in France, or anywhere in Europe that could have been avoided by the 6 metre rule?

Not sure if link will work

Motorhome Inferno
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[TheCaller]

It all depends on your attitude to risk. If you park awning to awning with your best mate, their m/h goes up & takes yours with it, will your insurers seek to reduce the payout to you (or your estate, if you didn't get out in time), citing contributory negligence because you ignored recommended practice?

If you don't believe it would ever happen, then park as close as you like. If you are prepared to dismiss the risk of being uninsured if it did happen, then park close. But respect the fact that others may not wish to take that risk, either to their own van or to their liability as site owners or rally organisers. If the condition of attendance on a site or at a rally is the recommended separation, then either abide by it or don't go - after all, there is the whole of the rest of Europe to go cuddle up in. It's not fair to expect rally marshals to deliberately invalidate the insurance Jim has arranged.

Personally, I prefer a bit of space around me. But if it's somewhere I want to be & it's either cuddle up or don't go, then I'll usually take the risk. Always feel a bit uncomfortable though.

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