Outside hook up point at home ?

Charlie

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Im a newbie
Im looking at setting up an outside hook up point using the usual blue plugs... Having just installed new garage doors I can no longer lay the lead under the garage door.

What do I need and are the blue plugs and outlet sockets waterproof ?

Thanks.
 

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As it's an outside socket it is covered by part P so should be done by an electrician. But
You could buy a Ip65 commando socket. Some 2.5mm 3 core cable and a Rcd protected plug top And just make an Extension lead up
That's not covered by part p

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If you don't have modern RCD's in your box suggest a separate on on the inside wall where you fix the outlet it should nowdays be fitted by an electrician......................
 
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Fit usual 16A blue type socket to suitable wall near motorhome then run cable, somehow, indoors and to spare fuseway on your consumer unit, using RCD at appropriate level. Or 'cos you can't do that without appropriate qualification, plug it into a 13A socket, again fused at appropriate level. :)
 
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10mm hole through wall, trailing lead with female 16A socket outside, 13A plug in inside

Or do it the harder way get an external socket fitted on outside wall then same lead but no need for hole in wall :)(y)

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You don't need qualifications to be competent....you need to show competence to get a qualification certificate.
If you have the ability, confidence and knowledge to fit an outdoor commando socket, just fit it.
The socket police won't come knocking
And send in a minor works to building control

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If your door is a roller type..it will have a pressure pad on the base. The cable will not effect it. We have the same type and have no problem with the cable going under the door when closed.
Im looking at setting up an outside hook up point using the usual blue plugs... Having just installed new garage doors I can no longer lay the lead under the garage door.

What do I need and are the blue plugs and outlet sockets waterproof ?

Thanks.
Are the doors roller type or conventional wooden or up and over type?

Kev
 

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I like a good laugh. Its like the guy who would not sell me the connector to fit my own Gas Oven. His theme being your not qualified. I asked him just how qualified he though I had to be. He said "Corgi" (it was a few years back). So I just said "you are talking to the guy who certifies the plant that the Corgi Fitters Train on!." Now can I have my Connection!. I got it!.
 
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If your door is a roller type..it will have a pressure pad on the base. The cable will not effect it. We have the same type and have no problem with the cable going under the door when closed.

Are the doors roller type or conventional wooden or up and over type?

Kev

Doors are heavy duty insulated steel side hung..... I bought them for security and fitted them myself with heavy duty locks . There is a threshold rubber strip that has a pressure sensitive strip that sets of the alarms if meddled with. If I try to close the door with the cable under the alarm goes off and in any case it’s to tight ...

I tend to charge every 3 weeks or so and leave it hooked up overnight.

I will use one of the advised Commando sockets above and run it through a fused spur for safety.

Thanks all for the advice !!

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Exactly what I did.
Me too, I have a waterproof 13A socket outside and use an adaptor. However I have an up-and-over garage door so have the cable to the Moho going through the gap above the door to an internal socket. That way it is more difficult to steal the cable. Visiting Moho owners use the external socket, so does my lawnmower.

I’ve not yet driven off without unplugging. My old Moho had an alarm that sounded if you started the engine whilst plugged in, but the new one does not. What do Funsters do to ensure they remember to unplug?
 
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Me too, I have a waterproof 13A socket outside and use an adaptor. However I have an up-and-over garage door so have the cable to the Moho going through the gap above the door to an internal socket. That way it is more difficult to steal the cable. Visiting Moho owners use the external socket, so does my lawnmower.

I’ve not yet driven off without unplugging. My old Moho had an alarm that sounded if you started the engine whilst plugged in, but the new one does not. What do Funsters do to ensure they remember to unplug?
Hi guys. I thought ALL modern motorhomes had the alarm when plugged in?
kev

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On my Old R-V, the handle to crank up the T-V Ariel was just above the drivers position. So I had a Chain which I hooked onto it, with a sign on the end which dangled right in your face if you forgot. The sign also had a short checklist including Hookup?, on an R-V "hookup" can Aslo include Water and Sewer!.
 

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I’ve not yet driven off without unplugging. My old Moho had an alarm that sounded if you started the engine whilst plugged in, but the new one does not. What do Funsters do to ensure they remember to unplug?

That's so easy to do: Insert an audible warning if mains is connected and the engine is started. All manufacturers should provide it.

That's so easy to do: Drive off while still connected to EHU. All manufacturers should provide something to remind you.

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As it was external electrical work, I had an electrician fit a wall mounted waterproof 2 gang 13A socket outside in our driveway from a fused spur on a ring in our extension and he made up a 13A plug van hookup lead.
It allows me to turn off the socket from inside the house and also use the sockets for power washer and hedge trimmer etc. It's a bit more versatile than a dedicated 16A hookup point
 

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If your door is a roller type..it will have a pressure pad on the base. The cable will not effect it. We have the same type and have no problem with the cable going under the door when closed. Are the doors roller type or conventional wooden or up and over type? Kev

I have the same and at each end there's a 25mm wide x 10mm high notch which allows a cable to pass underneath without upsetting the pressure pad, but . . . I do have an external 13a socket over the side of the house to feed the van.
 
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I cut a chase in the garage door frame for the EHU cable to pass through.

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Ref; DIY outdoor electrical work. If you dont feel confident, dont do it. IF however you have the necessary skill set then get on with it?. In my view NOTHING to do with the Council, H&SE or Government, when It is on Land I own, at which point the "Big Brother"`s can all go Rotate!.

P.S. It is far more likely that an "extension" cable will fail and become potentially dangerous than a Fixed installation.
 

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Fuse spur is fine for isolation and overload protection.....but it won't prevent electric shocks.
The socket needs to be RCD protected as it's outdoors.
I would go further and suggest RCD & ELCB protection at main domestic distribution box. Fuses will not save your life.

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Whilst an extra RCD might add a bit more protection, I've often wondered if they do. With three of them between you in the van and the mains supplied to your house (van/socket/distribution board) I tend to think there's some redundancy here and, if you lose power in the van, you have a third trip to investigate before progressing.
 
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I will use one of the advised Commando sockets above and run it through a fused spur for safety.
As I'm sure you all know, for a motorhome/caravan hookup point you need an RCD (30 millamp trip), and also an MCB that is maximum 16 amps and is double-pole.

Double-pole MCBs are actually quite difficult to find, not generally available in DIY stores. They sell only single-pole and 3-pole types.

http://www.meteorelectrical.com/dis...1/garo-mcb-2-pole-16a-charactertic-b-6ka.html
are the blue plugs and outlet sockets waterproof ?
The usual blue plugs and sockets are IP44 rated: weatherproof but not proof against water jets or immersion.

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Whilst an extra RCD might add a bit more protection, I've often wondered if they do. With three of them between you in the van and the mains supplied to your house (van/socket/distribution board) I tend to think there's some redundancy here and, if you lose power in the van, you have a third trip to investigate before progressing.
I guess the RCD socket would be important if one was using an appliance like a hedge trimmer and one cut the cable.... Not that I have done this on numerous occasions! :eek:
 

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In which case, you may well find that the hedge trimmer has its own RCD incorporated into the plug. The RCD to trip will be the one with the quickest reaction time, one of any in the line of supply.
It's surprising that corded electric hedge trimmers are even allowed. But they are, and people survive (as far as I know), so they must be safer than you'd think.
 
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I drilled a hole through the garage wall. Fed a cable through and fitted a blue outdoor socket like on campsites. Connected the cable to the mains inside the garage. Took about an hour.

Works well

I am still alive.

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