Ok, where do we stand now France wise. (1 Viewer)

[Peter and Julie]

Near Tulle and we have an École de Gendarmerie in the town
They use around here to train new recruits . Have been stopped many times . They have to learn somehow .
Also they use the A20 for péage training
We had an old friend who was the Colonel of the school so got quite an insight into how they work. We were summoned for tea each Sunday afternoon lol We bought his car and the number was 3000 and the thousand numbers were only given to high ranking folks .Very useful , never stopped and parking was easy lol ( This was in the days before the new number plates )

Not many gendarmes in Skelmersdale for you lol

Maybe that's because I'm in Montendre? Bout 2h from you. Skelmersdale is where one of my houses are!

 

[chaser]

Maybe that's because I'm in Montendre? Bout 2h from you. Skelmersdale is where one of my houses are!

Do you recognise the bar in my avatar?

 

[Peter and Julie]

Do you recognise the bar in my avatar?

No not much detail? Is it the one in town by the lights or fatties?

 

[Pete5996]

Might be because your post was a little negative?

I'm sorry if it seemed negative to you. It was intended to convey the fact that strict measures are still in place here and I'd hate anyone to go to a lot of trouble and expense, only to have their hopes dashed. You might be able to 'wing it' in the UK but they tend to be a lot less tolerant here.

 

[John Barrett]

I'm sorry if it seemed negative to you. It was intended to convey the fact that strict measures are still in place here and I'd hate anyone to go to a lot of trouble and expense, only to have their hopes dashed. You might be able to 'wing it' in the UK but they tend to be a lot less tolerant here.

It was a joke, jest, witticism, wisecrack, pun, etc. on your AP letter...

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[chaser]

No not much detail? Is it the one in town by the lights or fatties?

By the lights, Julie lived near there for 5 years we stay there every year as she still has friends living there.
Popeye took the photo about three years ago when we were at the twin lakes meet.

 

[EuroTrotters]

This situation is all very frustrating.

Where we are in the UK is a joke. The roads are choked with traffic. The road at the side of my house is like a race track. Numerous non essential business are still operating. The Authorities including the police are not doing anything about it.

Yet, I can’t fly to Spain. Where I have legal appointments and security issues that I need to resolve at our Spanish house. I did book to fly post lockdown On the 4th. But then the COVID test was imposed on us by the Spanish authorities. I’ve no problem With that. But the logistics and costs are Plain silly.

Just to note, I do take COVID-19 seriously. I have as has my wife worked through it. We have also lost friends and relatives to C19.

But when we have these ridiculous rules like.

You can sleep with your wife, but you can’t play golf with her. You can however, walk over the golf course.

You can’t go to the pub, but you can go to a filthy supermarket.


Essential travel only ! But the D@@@heads around here can ride trail bikes in the street with no helmets and the police do nothing.

Mean while. I attended funerals stood outside the chapels/churches. only 10 people. Whilst the travelling community blocked the streets and rocked up in their 100’s to funerals, filling churches. Whilst house parties are raided by police.

I could rant on

 

[Peter and Julie]

By the lights, Julie lived near there for 5 years we stay there every year as she still has friends living there.
Popeye took the photo about three years ago when we were at the twin lakes meet.

A pic from last night! Just to cheer you up Also the bar area has had a major revamp, Showers and toilet area still the same but tarted up a bit.

 

[Pete5996]

It was a joke, jest, witticism, wisecrack, pun, etc. on your AP letter...

Sorry I missed that - I'm a bit slow on the uptake today - very good!

 

[Neodave]

As Kent will be in tier 3 next week after lockdown I don't see how anyone can officially get down to the cross channel tunnel or ferries. Except of course for the Christmas Break maybe.

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[Neodave]

Sorry about the above not strictly true at the moment, only advisory and no road blocks. Soree!!!!

 

[Zulu]

All these comments about why wouldn’t the police let you go! Has anyone been watching news where one middle aged lady was arrested in the street and put in handcuffs for not moving whilst drinking a coffee? London nazi police.

 

[chaser]

A pic from last night! Just to cheer you up Also the bar area has had a major revamp, Showers and toilet area still the same but tarted up a bit.

Are you the new owners of twin lakes? If so are there anymore plans of a meet there?
Must admit we usually use the excellent Aire in town but could be persuaded to a meet if there was one.

 

[ashley 1340]

Cannot believe it costs £100 to £150 for a covid test. Here in south of france our local chemist does a test for 15 euros. It certainly is the case that some people are making a lot of money out of others misery

 

[Brendaburgess]

We are heading down to Cabopino via the tunnel and through France but not till 28th December, because we have a dog with a pet passport we need to be in Spain before the transition period ends, sometimes we are thinking is it even worth the worry of it now as there are so many boxes to tick and don’t want to get it wrong. We can only be in EU now for 90 days in a calendar year, we love our MH and are really sad that our lovely way of life is going to be changed for the worse..

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[Brendaburgess]

Are you the new owners of twin lakes? If so are there anymore plans of a meet there?
Must admit we usually use the excellent Aire in town but could be persuaded to a meet if there was one.

 

[Brendaburgess]

We like the look of Twin Lakes, not visited there before but will be down there at end December before we enter Spain ( )

 

[nicholsong]

For those with places in other countries, can you not get dual residence and travel between the two places on that basis?

Or, as in Poland avail yourselves of the right to have periods of abscence from the local residence witout jeopardising the residence status, which is what I might do if we need to travel.

One advantage of living part-time in UK is that there is no evidence of residence for a UK citizen, consequently one does not lie if asked whether one is resident in any other country, because there is no official status of being resident in UK. Also one does not need any paper to re-enter UK it is an ongoing right as a UK National.

UK is quite 'Laissez faire'.

The point of above is that one can legally be travelling to one's place of residence in both directions.

Geoff

 

[busby]

This situation is all very frustrating.

Where we are in the UK is a joke. The roads are choked with traffic. The road at the side of my house is like a race track. Numerous non essential business are still operating. The Authorities including the police are not doing anything about it.

Yet, I can’t fly to Spain. Where I have legal appointments and security issues that I need to resolve at our Spanish house. I did book to fly post lockdown On the 4th. But then the COVID test was imposed on us by the Spanish authorities. I’ve no problem With that. But the logistics and costs are Plain silly.

Just to note, I do take COVID-19 seriously. I have as has my wife worked through it. We have also lost friends and relatives to C19.

But when we have these ridiculous rules like.

You can sleep with your wife, but you can’t play golf with her. You can however, walk over the golf course.

You can’t go to the pub, but you can go to a filthy supermarket.


Essential travel only ! But the D@@@heads around here can ride trail bikes in the street with no helmets and the police do nothing.

Mean while. I attended funerals stood outside the chapels/churches. only 10 people. Whilst the travelling community blocked the streets and rocked up in their 100’s to funerals, filling churches. Whilst house parties are raided by police.

I could rant on

Think supermarkets are much cleaner than most pubs I have been in, Would hate to think what lives in the carpets and upholstery in most pubs..BUSBY,,

 

[2x2camper]

As Kent will be in tier 3 next week after lockdown I don't see how anyone can officially get down to the cross channel tunnel or ferries. Except of course for the Christmas Break maybe.

You are allowed to travel through tier 3 areas.

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[gus-lopez]

an you not get dual residence and travel between the two places on that basis?

Under EU rules you cannot be resident in more than one country.What happens after 1st January though is anybodies guess. many people already have residence in other EU states whilst living in the UK.

 

[nicholsong]

Under EU rules you cannot be resident in more than one country.What happens after 1st January though is anybodies guess. many people already have residence in other EU states whilst living in the UK.

Yes I know that, which is why I pointed out that there is no status for a UK National of being formally 'Resident' in UK - no register of Residents, no Residence card, no record as such at all. So one would only be formally resident in Spain for example.

 

[spitfire]

Yes I know that, which is why I pointed out that there is no status for a UK National of being formally 'Resident' in UK - no register of Residents, no Residence card, no record as such at all. So one would only be formally resident in Spain for example.

This was the situation here in France also . You are obliged to register for tax , healthcare etc but there was never any official personal registration or document . Hence when B..... came along they had to issue a Carte de Séjour which they refused to do previously as we were European !
There are two cards EU and TCN but we are getting a WARP card to differentiate us from the other two lol

 

[nicholsong]

This was the situation here in France also . You are obliged to register for tax , healthcare etc but there was never any official personal registration or document . Hence when B..... came along they had to issue a Carte de Séjour which they refused to do previously as we were European !
There are two cards EU and TCN but we are getting a WARP card to differentiate us from the other two lol

TCN and WARP translation please.

 

[spitfire]

TCN and WARP translation please.

Oops sorry TCN is what U.K. will become 1 January Third Country National And this is what we expected for our cards but they have decided to call us Withdrawal Agreement Residence Permit !

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[ianp]

Yes the idea of differentiating between TCN and WARP is strange unless there is to be some future modification one way or another as Spain and I think Portugal intend / are doing the same. Why I wonder?

 

[nicholsong]

Oops sorry TCN is what U.K. will become 1 January Third Country National And this is what we expected for our cards but they have decided to call us Withdrawal Agreement Residence Permit !

Thanks.

That makes sense because I understand that the Residence Permits issued to those entitled by virtue of being resident during the period of the Withdrawak Agreement will be different from the normal Residence Permit, maybe not to look at but in the biometric coding. We shall find out when issued.

Permits issued to those becoming resident from 1st Jan 2021 will be TCN type issued under different criteria, tus making it imperative to have registered one's stay before 31st Dec 2020, which is emphasised oin FCO advice.

Geoff

 

[Peter and Julie]

Are you the new owners of twin lakes? If so are there anymore plans of a meet there?
Must admit we usually use the excellent Aire in town but could be persuaded to a meet if there was one.

No I'm not the owners! It's Rob and Jen, a young couple have taken it over. I have bought a plot here (for brexit reasons).Blue skies today so no rush to get back! Pretty sure a meet could be arranged?

 

[Pete5996]

Yes the idea of differentiating between TCN and WARP is strange unless there is to be some future modification one way or another as Spain and I think Portugal intend / are doing the same. Why I wonder?

A Titre de Sejour for TCNs is different to a WARP. The WARP is a card showing that we have certain protections settled within the Withdrawal Agreement, already done and dusted. UK citizens holding a WARP will retain most of their existing rights and benefits such as pension uprating, health care covered from the UK, right to permanent residence etc. These benefits won't necessarily apply to people arriving after 31st Dec.

The application process is much simpler and less rigorous (and free!) than applying for a residence visa as a Third Country National after 1st January.

 

[gwyntaxi]

I have read about these fines at the tunnel, but were these people told they couldn't go when they booked the trip? Or are they just pulling in hoping to pay and go.

As I understood it they were first stopped on route to the ferry port or vice versa , whichever, and were advised they should not be travelling and advised them to return home, they then headed for the tunnel and were stopped again by a different “checkpoint” and it was found they were travelling despite having been told to return home and subsequently fined them.

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