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SteveRallye

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Just realised the servicing period on the New Fiat M/H is two years from new but I am thinking that I would like to get the oil and filter changed as we do quite a bit of driving in hotter countries ie Spain in winter. Is this a good idea.
 
Well, it may well be a waste of £50........a tenth of a percent of your capital investment........you could go and buy 100 fags..........would that be a waste of money.....go get the popcorn
 
I’ve always serviced my vehicles way more frequently than the manufacturers suggest. I like the piece of mind knowing the oil is fresh. Opie oils is my go to source, genuine consumables at decent prices. A half hour oil change process is really simple and actually something I enjoy doing!
 
Just change it, oil and filter, such a low cost for peace of mind, if underwsrranty make sure its done at a fiat garage, using fiat parts and get the book stamped.
 
SteveRallye said:
Just realised the servicing period on the New Fiat M/H is two years from new but I am thinking that I would like to get the oil and filter changed as we do quite a bit of driving in hotter countries ie Spain in winter. Is this a good idea.
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We've got a Fiat Ducato with the 3lt non turbo. Longest its ever gone between oil&filter change is 5000 miles. I think the Fiat recommendation is 18,000 miles!!!
I know that modern Oils are supposed to be super long life but in my opinion it's a no brainer,,, a few quid extra spent on the prime mover,,, makes sense to me Borr.
 
If it is like our Peugeot the main dealer will pull your trousers down etc. Normally what is required is the service carried out by a VAT registered dealer but with genuine parts. Is an oil change neccesary? At two years I would say yes. At one year no.
 
If its a euro6 then if low mileage change after a year if more than 10000 and less than 20000 dont bother wait to 28000 or the 2 years, it's a commercial vehicle. Plenty of other thtreads with this advice. Use the correct spec oil (brand doesn't matter spec does) another user of opie oils for the van but elsewhere for vag oils.
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I think ive read that the oil should be changed if engine not used for a month (or was it three) please confirm before believing this, and send the men in white coats if untrue.
 
I change mine every 3 years whether it needs it or not.

Seriously, for peace of mind, do it , but don't expect it to be £50.. mine was almost £100 with the VAT .

Decent oil and genuine parts cost money.

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PhilG said:
I change mine every 3 years whether it needs it or not.

Seriously, for peace of mind, do it , but don't expect it to be £50.. mine was almost £100 with the VAT .

Decent oil and genuine parts cost money.
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Worth every penny though Borr,,,
No foot, No Horse.
No engine, No Motorhome.

When we're cruisin on down through France or wherever, no-one ever gives a thought to the millions of revolutions the pistons, conrods and crankshaft are doing, every single revolution completed under enormous load...

Your engine deserves CLEAN oil and a CLEAN filter...

Yew know it makes sense Borrs. ??
 
A friend of mine worked for London Transport , they spend gazillions on oil... service intervals were very regular.. high cost.

They invested in a spectroscopic analyser, and picked some busses, to regularly test, and just topped up levels etc to see when the oil went west ... one unit went 98000 miles with no discernible drop off. They did pull filters to cut up, in the mean time, to back up findings.

Its the same tech we used in F1 to predict engine failures. Not cheap, but cheaper than a lot of oil you don't need
 
the1andonly said:
it's a commercial vehicle.
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& here most change all oils at 15,000kms.
This is the info for my transit;

Every 250 miles

Check the engine oil level
Check the coolant level
Check the screenwash fluid level
Check the brake/clutch fluid level
Check the power steering fluid level
Check the tyres and tyre pressures
Check the condition of the battery and terminals
Check the condition of the wiper blades


Note: The manufacturers recommend that the engine oil and filter are changed every 15,000 miles or 12 months if the vehicle is being operated under normal conditions. However, oil and filter changes are good for the engine and we recommend that the oil and filter are renewed more frequently, especially if the vehicle is driven in dusty areas, used to tow a trailer, or driven frequently at slow speeds (idling in traffic) or on short journeys.

For miles it always just changes to kms ,especially for cam belts.
 
I always have at least oil and filter changed every year as advised by someone that runs a fleet of Ducato vans. Have always considered this sound advice even though his vehicles travel a lot more miles than ours??
 
PhilG said:
A friend of mine worked for London Transport , they spend gazillions on oil... service intervals were very regular.. high cost.

They invested in a spectroscopic analyser, and picked some busses, to regularly test, and just topped up levels etc to see when the oil went west ... one unit went 98000 miles with no discernible drop off. They did pull filters to cut up, in the mean time, to back up findings.

Its the same tech we used in F1 to predict engine failures. Not cheap, but cheaper than a lot of oil you don't need
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So I’ve sent oil away numerous times for analysis with my old race and track cars, mainly looking for tells associated with bearing failure to assure I caught it preventively before rods were poking out of the block! High stress engines are clearly way more prone to failure through engine oil degradation than high torque low RPM bus engines with may 100’sk or thousands of hours duty cycles.

The motors in our MoHo are running with increasing levels of boost to drive efficiency, so despite these having 100’s of hours of use between oil changes, I just like to err on the side of caution, for the sake of a few quid and change more frequently than indicated service intervals. Wasting money, maybe but spending £75 for decent oil and filter and 30 mins of my time, it’s a price I’m happy to pay!

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Hi, looking for a garage to service my Hobby 65 motorhome. The garage that carried out the mot has not got ramps big enough. I live in the LA2 postcode area.
 
Anyone found a decent place to by 6/7 litres of the Fiat approved Petronas Selenia 0w-30 WR Forward oil?
as shown below on E bay link, but with delivery on top.
Or are you using The Shell Helix equivalent.
Thanks for any advice,
LES
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SteveRallye said:
Just realised the servicing period on the New Fiat M/H is two years from new but I am thinking that I would like to get the oil and filter changed as we do quite a bit of driving in hotter countries ie Spain in winter. Is this a good idea.
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Only take it to Fiat Professional TO BE SURE ::bigsmile: :Eeek: (y)
 
Speve said:
I always have at least oil and filter changed every year as advised by someone that runs a fleet of Ducato vans. Have always considered this sound advice even though his vehicles travel a lot more miles than ours??
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Oil doesn’t have to do loads of hours to degrade ?
 
TinaL said:
Anyone found a decent place to by 6/7 litres of the Fiat approved Petronas Selenia 0w-30 WR Forward oil?
as shown below on E bay link, but with delivery on top.
Or are you using The Shell Helix equivalent.
Thanks for any advice,
LES
<Broken link removed>
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Have you tried opie oils.

Contact them they are very helpful

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TinaL said:
Anyone found a decent place to by 6/7 litres of the Fiat approved Petronas Selenia 0w-30 WR Forward oil?
as shown below on E bay link, but with delivery on top.
Or are you using The Shell Helix equivalent.
Thanks for any advice,
LES
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Why would you use Petronas when plenty of cheaper oils meet the correct Fiat spec?

Just done my annual oil change. Fuchs GT1 (as used by at least some Fiat Pro dealers) £32 from Opie Oils via eBay (cheaper than their own website and postage free on eBay too) plus £14 for a Mann filter (better filters than Fiat OEM IMO).
 
Understood, just for the information of euro six owners, could be an expensive mistake.
 
KUSKUS said:
Total Quartz 5w-30 no good for Euro 6
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Total Quartz INEO ECS 0w30 Engine Oil is the oil recommended for EURO 6 Peugeot 2.0litre 160bhp.
 

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