Next hurdle to cross. What are these ? (1 Viewer)

[Hymerbrittany]

Morning folks. Hymer B694.... Having sorted out the battery issue, fingers crossed of course, the next voyage of discovery are these items.

One is a fuse breaker which I'm guessing is the mains hook up on / off fuse switch and the other is a plastic tank, empty at the moment, but with quite a few wires and stuff close by. A pointer as to what to do with either of the 'bits' would be great, thank you.

 

[Hymerbrittany]

Slightly better pics here...

 

[Boringfrog]

Picture on the right is your fuses for electric hook up.

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[funflair]

The name on the box Trav-l-Cool would suggest some sort of evaporative cooler,

Quick google,

Trav-L-Cool Air Conditioner – Explanation and Servicing – Motor-Roam

motor-roam.co.uk

Martin

 

[two]

Assume you have an zircon unit? The bottle is the reservoir, which you will need to keep topping-up when in use. Mine was 12V and worked rather well. Exhaust hot air first, then switch to cool the incoming air.

The other box seems to contain mains MCBs (but no RCD). It may be the main 'fuse box' for EHU but could be form mains auxiliaries (microwave/kettle/fridge...)

 

[Hymerbrittany]

Picture on the right is your fuses for electric hook up.

Thought so but thank you for confirming that.

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[Hymerbrittany]

Assume you have an zircon unit? The bottle is the reservoir, which you will need to keep topping-up when in use. Mine was 12V and worked rather well. Exhaust hot air first, then switch to cool the incoming air.

The other box seems to contain mains MCBs (but no RCD). It may be the main 'fuse box' for EHU but could be form mains auxiliaries (microwave/kettle/fridge...)

No idea re Zircon unit. Haven't got around to heating or hot water yet. How would I identify a zircon unit if I saw it? The bottle in the picture is currently empty. Are you saying that this should be filled with water? Does all this work from the Truma controls? (Two switches with 40/60degrees options plus a rotary dual)

Hope you don't mind my follow up queries on this.

 

[Hymerbrittany]

The name on the box Trav-l-Cool would suggest some sort of evaporative cooler,

Quick google,

Trav-L-Cool Air Conditioner – Explanation and Servicing – Motor-Roam

motor-roam.co.uk

Martin

Brilliant info thanks. Never knew what this was but now I see from your kind link, that a full tlc clean is in order... Thanks again.

 

[two]

No idea re Zircon unit. Haven't got around to heating or hot water yet. How would I identify a zircon unit if I saw it? The bottle in the picture is currently empty. Are you saying that this should be filled with water? Does all this work from the Truma controls? (Two switches with 40/60degrees options plus a rotary dual)

Hope you don't mind my follow up queries on this. ❤

Sorry - I didn't notice the auto-correct for aircon.
The unit will be independent of your Truma controls.
I'd expect a fan with switches in a skylight above (not too far away).
The water will be pumped to the unit and any not used will return.
Some will evaporate, which is why you need to top it up (also keep it clean).
I'd keep it empty when not in use.
The unit is not as effective as one with a compressor but is better than nothing and may not require mains.

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[Lenny HB]

The electrical box is a double pole MCB (miniature circuit breaker) on the incoming mains. The Germans never used to fit an RCD until more recently, there is room in the box to fit one so for your own safety I would fit one.

 

[autorouter]

There are two possible faults that need protecting against, earth leakage and overcurrent. Overcurrent causes heat buildup and possible fire. Electric shock can be prevented by detecting leakage of current to earth.

A Miniature Circuit Breaker (MCB) protects against overcurrent, either a sudden huge current due to a short, or a slow buildup due to failure of insulation etc.

A Residual Current Device (RCD) detects any small imbalance between the outgoing and returning electric current, and if it's over 30milliamps it cuts off the supply. This limit is small enough to prevent serious shock for most healthy people.

The device you have is an MCB. The 'B10' written on it shows that it will allow 10 Amps through with no problem, but will trip if more than that. The 'B' means it is suitable for normal loads, not devices with big motors like air conditioning units, which should have the 'C' type. Note, it does not protect against electric shock.

Modern electrics have both an RCD and MCB fitted. Adding an RCD is cheap and easy, especially as Lenny HB says, there is space in the box already.

There is a third type of device, a Residual Current Breaker with Overload (RCBO), that combines the functions of an RCD and MCB, and is very suited for single circuits like this. They are becoming popular in motorhomes, caravans and hookup posts. It's a straight swap for an MCB, no extra bits of wire required. That's what is fitted in my motorhome.

These 2-pole RCBOs can be a bit difficult to find in the UK, because of the mostly single-pole MCBs in house electrics. Should be easier to find in France. Electricians' supplier CEF can supply them here in the UK. For example

Consumer Unit 2 Mod Rcb Os Type B | CEF

 

[Hymerbrittany]

There are two possible faults that need protecting against, earth leakage and overcurrent. Overcurrent causes heat buildup and possible fire. Electric shock can be prevented by detecting leakage of current to earth.

A Miniature Circuit Breaker (MCB) protects against overcurrent, either a sudden huge current due to a short, or a slow buildup due to failure of insulation etc.

A Residual Current Device (RCD) detects any small imbalance between the outgoing and returning electric current, and if it's over 30milliamps it cuts off the supply. This limit is small enough to prevent serious shock for most healthy people.

The device you have is an MCB. The 'B10' written on it shows that it will allow 10 Amps through with no problem, but will trip if more than that. The 'B' means it is suitable for normal loads, not devices with big motors like air conditioning units, which should have the 'C' type. Note, it does not protect against electric shock.

Modern electrics have both an RCD and MCB fitted. Adding an RCD is cheap and easy, especially as Lenny HB says, there is space in the box already.

There is a third type of device, a Residual Current Breaker with Overload (RCBO), that combines the functions of an RCD and MCB, and is very suited for single circuits like this. They are becoming popular in motorhomes, caravans and hookup posts. It's a straight swap for an MCB, no extra bits of wire required. That's what is fitted in my motorhome.

These 2-pole RCBOs can be a bit difficult to find in the UK, because of the mostly single-pole MCBs in house electrics. Should be easier to find in France. Electricians' supplier CEF can supply them here in the UK. For example

Consumer Unit 2 Mod Rcb Os Type B | CEF

You guys are brilliant. This advice is so cool. The Internet never ceases to amaze. I will get to it soon as possible. Thanks again for your help.

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[Hymerbrittany]

Sorry - I didn't notice the auto-correct for aircon.
The unit will be independent of your Truma controls.
I'd expect a fan with switches in a skylight above (not too far away).
The water will be pumped to the unit and any not used will return.
Some will evaporate, which is why you need to top it up (also keep it clean).
I'd keep it empty when not in use.
The unit is not as effective as one with a compressor but is better than nothing and may not require mains.

Got this covered now, thank you. New product line perhaps, zircon.. .

 

[Hymerbrittany]

There are two possible faults that need protecting against, earth leakage and overcurrent. Overcurrent causes heat buildup and possible fire. Electric shock can be prevented by detecting leakage of current to earth.

A Miniature Circuit Breaker (MCB) protects against overcurrent, either a sudden huge current due to a short, or a slow buildup due to failure of insulation etc.

A Residual Current Device (RCD) detects any small imbalance between the outgoing and returning electric current, and if it's over 30milliamps it cuts off the supply. This limit is small enough to prevent serious shock for most healthy people.

The device you have is an MCB. The 'B10' written on it shows that it will allow 10 Amps through with no problem, but will trip if more than that. The 'B' means it is suitable for normal loads, not devices with big motors like air conditioning units, which should have the 'C' type. Note, it does not protect against electric shock.

Modern electrics have both an RCD and MCB fitted. Adding an RCD is cheap and easy, especially as Lenny HB says, there is space in the box already.

There is a third type of device, a Residual Current Breaker with Overload (RCBO), that combines the functions of an RCD and MCB, and is very suited for single circuits like this. They are becoming popular in motorhomes, caravans and hookup posts. It's a straight swap for an MCB, no extra bits of wire required. That's what is fitted in my motorhome.

These 2-pole RCBOs can be a bit difficult to find in the UK, because of the mostly single-pole MCBs in house electrics. Should be easier to find in France. Electricians' supplier CEF can supply them here in the UK. For example

Consumer Unit 2 Mod Rcb Os Type B | CEF

Have sourced a C type one, thanks for the tip.