Mot advisory

[DandG5515]

Hi all, had 4 vehicles moted since lockdown, all 4 have passed with no advisorys, great you might think, but 3 of then have fixed last year advisorys on their own. And before you ask, at 3 different garages. Does anyone in the trade know of a change in standard?

 

[Richard n Ann]

Does Geo do Mots?

 

[JJ]

One MOT tester's "advisory" is another tester's "Nothing wrong there".

Having MOT tests carried out where they also do repairs has always given rise to the possibility of naughtiness on behalf of garages of ill repute!

JJ

 

[Silver-Fox]

I had an advisory on my classic Subaru Impreza a few years ago.

Rust to cross member but doesn’t affect blah blah blah.

It was a tiny bit of surface rust where the paint had peeled
Just as well it wasn’t a Merc Sprinter

 

[Geo]

An advisory is at a testers discretion
and carries no weight what so ever

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[John Barrett]

An advisory is at a testers discretion
and carries no weight what so ever

It does if he convinces you that some paid work is also 'advisory'!

 

[chaser]

I have had a ford ranger 10 years for the first 7 it had a rumbeling back wheel bearing, the last three ,no mention of it

 

[nicholsong]

I have had a ford ranger 10 years for the first 7 it had a rumbeling back wheel bearing, the last three ,no mention of it

I wonder if they can hear that when the rolling-road is running.

 

[RobbyMClark]

An advisory is at a testers discretion
and carries no weight what so ever

Mot stations put advisory on a few vehicles as they are regularly audited by DoT and their Head Office if a national.
If they have a lot of totally clear tests they a gone over with a fine tooth comb. Also if a tester Carrie's out tests too quickly they get checked.

 

[maison]

I had an advisory on a motorcycle , “head bearing stiff or notchy”

On getting home I cached it couldn’t find a fault so went back to the dealer and asked what the problem was. Their reply,......”No problem but an inspector was present at the time so it was logged as due diligence”.

Three tests later it has never arisen again.

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[Geo]

Mot stations put advisory on a few vehicles as they are regularly audited by DoT and their Head Office if a national.
If they have a lot of totally clear tests they a gone over with a fine tooth comb. Also if a tester Carrie's out tests too quickly they get checked.

Did I say anything to the contrary? after testing for over 30Years+ being an A/E i can confirm they are there to cover a testers arse usually new testers and those afraid of there own shadow.
if an item does not meet a fail criteria and in the testers opinion presents no danger why write it down.
I have seen many advisories such as whole under body corroded, brake pads low .
all opinions nothing more if challenged by DVSA area Manager why something wasnt advised, have the courage of your convictions and tell him.
Its been quoted for donkeys a MoT is a snapshot of your cars condition and a pass is only good for the time it takes to get your car off the ramp there in no guarantee implied or otherwise that your car will be safe for the next 12 Hrs never mind months

 

[Emmit]

Last year advisory, "Slight leak in front pipe (exhaust)
One week later, the pipe split in two!!!

 

[pappajohn]

I had the same advisory three years running..... "This vehicle is fitted with 3 point seat belts"
What did they think I was going to do, fit lap belts!

 

[TheBig1]

you take your vehicle to a garage and pay an experienced mechanic to test your vehicle and give an opinion on the condition of that vehicle. A fail is something you need to fix now and any advisory should be rechecked with an intention to repair. Ignoring an advisory from one test to another is somewhat foolish, as it gave you the opportunity to fix a minor fault before it became a serious or potentially dangerous one

far too many people know nothing about vehicles and the only time they get checked is at mot time. Often they put a vehicle in for testing without checking the basics like wipers and bulbs even and when it scrapes through a test after the garage rectifies those minor issues, they feel relieved and neglect the vehicle for another 12 months

When I am looking to buy a second hand vehicle, I always check the old MOT tests and fails, especially any advisories. Some advisories are repeated for a few years, especially corrosion (rust) and this clearly shows the vehicle has been neglected mechanically. Light surface rust will quickly deteriorate under a vehicle requiring major welding repairs. Once that starts, the outcome is pretty inevitable

If you trust your garage and the mechanic that does the MOT test on your vehicle, pay attention to what they advise

 

[Clipgate]

Did someone mention an experienced mechanic!
You might like to research the level of experience required to apply to become an AE.
Unfortunately the criteria is laid down by the DVSA, who recruit Vehicle Inspectors with very basic experience themselves, most of the time served staff took Voluntary severance about four years ago to be replaced by tick box personnel. A few hung on however not many.
Be careful out their do not reply on an MOT

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[Clickem]

18 months ago our van got advisories for corrosion on brake discs, caused by standing for a while. Sold it and noticed that this year when new owner had it tested there was no advisories. Doubt they have been changed, just different examiner

 

[Geo]

Did someone mention an experienced mechanic!
You might like to research the level of experience required to apply to become an AE.
Unfortunately the criteria is laid down by the DVSA, who recruit Vehicle Inspectors with very basic experience themselves, most of the time served staff took Voluntary severance about four years ago to be replaced by tick box personnel. A few hung on however not many.
Be careful out their do not reply on an MOT

For clarity an A/E (Authorised Examiner) in old money, DM (Designated Manager in todays centres) Do Not and never have had to carry out MoTs
He is responsible for managing and enforcing the MoT Scheme what qualifications other than academic are required do you think?

 

[Clipgate]

AEs are held accountable for any action carried out by staff. It’s important to make sure your staff are well supervised, fully trained and capable of carrying out an MOT test to required standards. Staff should also be kept up to date with special notices and MOT scheme changes.


Training doesn’t equate to experience. If the tester is new and lacks experience, some extra support or supervision may be needed until they’re capable and confident with testing alone.


Make sure your tester has the skills, expertise, support and equipment they need to test with good judgement.

 

[Clipgate]

In addition but not limited too:
AEs must carry out quality control (QC) checks on each tester at least every two months, which is a minimum requirement. You can carry out more regular QC checks to give extra support to recently trained testers.


AEs with only one tester may want to consider third party checks.


The site assessment procedure is another example of checking quality. You can download the site assessment forms from GOV.UK and check over the site for yourself.