I know this will elicit many different opinions, but..................Tyres!! (1 Viewer)

[Taff015]

Hi all

All being well, I will pick up our new MH this weekend! yay!!

There are a few things needing sorting but one of the more pressing issues are the tyres.

Currently she has continental CP tyres fitted all round 225/75/516 CP with a 118 load rating. The front are 2011 vintage and the rears are 2012 (I didn't check the inner tyre on each axle but am assuming that they are the same dates.) Tread is all good tbh as the van hasn't moved very far in 5 years and the sidewalls are all good.

Continental says that tyres can last 10 years but I'm going to change anyway when I get the van back.

I want all season tyres fitted as I intend going overseas in the winter as well but as far as I can see they don't do CP tyres in 4 season variants. Are the continental four season 2 worth putting on or can i reduce my cost and look at another brand?

I've had Nexxen on my cars for years and my last van with no issues and my transit van (Motability) is shod in Hankooks again no issues.

However this is a 6t van so looking for advice.

TLDR is will I die a horrible death if I fire cheaper all season or winter tyres on the Flair and use them all year?

Putting this out to all of you as I cannot (without sending bags of cash!) keep asking Funflair all my silly questions via PM (Thanks again Martin, you have been a star and I'm sure I owe you a bottle or two!)

Thanks in advance

Paul

 

[CazPaul]

All season or winter all year for us, twin rear wheeler like yours, no problem.

 

[Taff015]

All season or winter all year for us, twin rear wheeler like yours, no problem.

what brand do you use?

many thanks

Paul

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[CazPaul]

what brand do you use?

many thanks

Paul

We have Toyo H09 brilliant winter tyres BUT there is a new version of these just come out and the tread pattern doesn't look half as good.

 

[Taff015]

No issue running winter tyres al year then?

Im looking at Maxxis Vansmart A/S AL2 at the minute..... cant seem to find Nexxen in an all season but if full winters are ok all year, i may just run with that option

 

[hblewett]

I have just replaced all my tyres, including the spare, with Continental Allseason which include the necessary snowflake symbol. I previously had Continental 4Season (I think that’s what they were) which had done 50k miles (and would have done more but for Covid restrictions) but at 10 years old needed to go. I figured they had done so well, why bother with anything else. I could maybe have spent a couple of hundred less, but what’s that over 10 years with a risk of them wearing out sooner and not performing as well?

Of course, a lot depends on your expected mileage and how long you expect to keep the moho.

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[Taff015]

I have just replaced all my tyres, including the spare, with Continental Allseason which include the necessary snowflake symbol. I previously had Continental 4Season (I think that’s what they were) which had done 50k miles (and would have done more but for Covid restrictions) but at 10 years old needed to go. I figured they had done so well, why bother with anything else. I could maybe have spent a couple of hundred less, but what’s that over 10 years with a risk of them wearing out sooner and not performing as well?

Of course, a lot depends on your expected mileage and how long you expect to keep the moho.

That's actually a very good point! also probably why i was asking about the nexxens as I had those on my hymer for 5 years with no issues.

I am however this time planning to spread my wings and explore Scandinavia hence the winter tyre question

 

[Guffy60]

Go all seasons not winter
winter are not very good in warmer weather, having lower stopping distances in dry and wet, as they effectively overheat

 

[Larrynwin]

I would never keep tyres on a motorhome beyond 6 or 7 years they may have lots of tread but that reflects the low mileage of most motorhomes . The risk is deteriorating walls that could lead to a blowout costing much more than a set of new tyres.
The op mentioned 2011 / 2012 imo really need replacing.

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[Taff015]

I would never keep tyres on a motorhome beyond 6 or 7 years they may have lots of tread but that reflects the low mileage of most motorhomes . The risk is deteriorating walls that could lead to a blowout costing much more than a set of new tyres.
The op mentioned 2011 / 2012 imo really need replacing.

Oh yeah, as soon as i get the van home, the tyres are getting sorted. I just don't want to blow a grand on camping tyres if a set of all seasons are just as good.

 

[phil1946]

As you are in Shropshire I suggest you get in touch with Brian and Jo, a member on here, who is a tyre dealer and knows everything about things round and black. His son Josh is often in the office and fitting can be arranged anywhere if you cannot get to their depot that also has EHU and water if you arrange to arrive the night before fitting. https://www.pandbtyres.co.uk

 

[Larrynwin]

As you are in Shropshire I suggest you get in touch with Brian and Jo, a member on here, who is a tyre dealer and knows everything about things round and black. His son Josh is often in the office and fitting can be arranged anywhere if you cannot get to their depot that also has EHU and water if you arrange to arrive the night before fitting. https://www.pandbtyres.co.uk

Yes , excellent service.

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[Taff015]

As you are in Shropshire I suggest you get in touch with Brian and Jo, a member on here, who is a tyre dealer and knows everything about things round and black. His son Josh is often in the office and fitting can be arranged anywhere if you cannot get to their depot that also has EHU and water if you arrange to arrive the night before fitting. https://www.pandbtyres.co.uk

That's awesome, I'm in Wem so only half an hour away.

I've used the little tyre shop in Shrewsbury for years but would certainly rather use someone who is in the club so to speak.

 

[Taff015]

We have Toyo H09 brilliant winter tyres BUT there is a new version of these just come out and the tread pattern doesn't look half as good.

just had a look and i cant get the h09 in a 225/75/16. I can get the toyo observe however. I take it they are the newer version?

 

[WESTY66]

just had a look and i cant get the h09 in a 225/75/16. I can get the toyo observe however. I take it they are the newer version?

I think Lenny HB has just had these fitted to his Hymer B678 and his initial impressions are good

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[funflair]

I fitted Falken to a Flair they are 3PMSF and I was impressed with them, 118 load rating I think, previous to that we had the Continentals fourseasons at 121 load rating, have them on the MORELO as well but need the 121 as it's pretty heavy on the front.

Martin

 

[CazPaul]

just had a look and i cant get the h09 in a 225/75/16. I can get the toyo observe however. I take it they are the newer version?

Yes they are the newer version, Toto have stopped the H09. The newer one tread pattern doesn't look anywhere as grippy as the H09s.

 

[EuroTrotters]

Michelin Agilis Alpin Winter. Use them All-Year

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[Lenny HB]

just had a look and i cant get the h09 in a 225/75/16. I can get the toyo observe however. I take it they are the newer version?

I think Lenny HB has just had these fitted to his Hymer B678 and his initial impressions are good

Yep, had them fitted on Tuesday, agree the tread pattern doesn't look that chunky but they have nice wide grooves that should clear mud & snow.
Only taken them for a test drive so far, really impressed at how quiet they were and the ride comfort is superb.
Off to Germany today for 4 weeks should give them a good test.

 

[Taff015]

I'm getting the maxis all year ones fitted tomorrow!!

 

[WESTY66]

Yep, had them fitted on Tuesday, agree the tread pattern doesn't look that chunky but they have nice wide grooves that should clear mud & snow.
Only taken them for a test drive so far, really impressed at how quiet they were and the ride comfort is superb.
Off to Germany today for 4 weeks should give them a good test.

Hi Lenny HB are you doing a thread for your trip? If you have already started one I haven’t found it yet

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[Lenny HB]

Hi Lenny HB are you doing a thread for your trip? If you have already started one I haven’t found it yet

Yes I probability will, we have just arrived at the Chunnel.
May start one later or in the morning.

 

[Nasher]

I have General Eurovan AS 365 - all season with the 3PMSF (So OK for winter in Germany)
General tyres are a brand I like (always used General Grabbers on my four wheel drive vehicles)

I'm particularly impressed with the grip and lack of noise plus their wear rate doesn't sem any worse than 'normal' tyres


I checked a number of tyre makes & models using the EU Tyre ratings for Grip, Noise & Economy (mpg) - note different tyre sizes of the same make & model may have different ratings - well worth checking out




But reading through this thread, I've learnt that all the suggested tyres are black & round

 

[clanjones]

I am really struggling to get any technical information on tryes re: maximum pressure and recommended running pressure for a given axle loading, which I know as we weigh the van everytime before a long trip, apart from Mitchelin!

Nasher do you have any info on pressures/tyre load for your AS365?

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[Taff015]

A big shout out to Brian form pandbtyres.co.uk

Many thanks for sorting me out today.

 

[Manic]

Be good to get your reviews on these tyres

 

[RubyOptics]

Im glad Taff015 has resolved his problem, but I hope I may continue this thread as I have a similar question? I live in Poland, where when it snows, it SNOWS...shovelling your car out is routine, rather than exceptional if we get a proper winter. I have a healthy mistrust of "all-season" tyres as the ones I have used (big brand names) on cars have been terrible in this kind of weather. As I plan to use my van year-round, should I use "normal" (non-CP rated" proper winter tyres? As far as I'm aware, there isn't a true "winter" CP tyre made, so is this the only option I have?

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[Taff015]

Be good to get your reviews on these tyres

So far all is good. Steering was immediately better and ride quality much much better than the continentals they replaced.

They are all season tyres so should be OK for winter in Germany

I've only gone 30 miles or so but the difference was palpable.

 

[JockandRita]

I fitted Falken to a Flair they are 3PMSF and I was impressed with them,

Funnily enough Martin, so have I, and so am I though not had an opportunity to try them on ice or snow yet.......................and I'm in no real hurry to either.

Unfortunately, they don't appear to do a 121 load rating.

Falken Euroall Season Van2

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[Nasher]

I am really struggling to get any technical information on tryes re: maximum pressure and recommended running pressure for a given axle loading, which I know as we weigh the van everytime before a long trip, apart from Mitchelin!

Nasher do you have any info on pressures/tyre load for your AS365?

Hi, I have a PVC So just use the recommended tyre pressure (door pillar on offside) of 60 psi front & 65 read (when cold)

Hope this helps

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