Fiat timing belt time, how much should it cost for A Class

[BusyBuilder]

Hello
It's almost 5 years since the timing belt was done on my Hymer B544 2.3 (130bhp). No mention of the water pump being done though, but not had any problems.

So as the vans an A class Hymer, any ideas what it should cost and exactly what needs doing ? It usually goes to local HGV/bus/coach dealer garage who do lots of motorhome servicing. Looking for an idea before we get a quote.

thanks.

 

[Lenny HB]

Mine is due this year local in dependant quoted £800-£1000 using genuine Fiat kit which is now £400+vat

 

[grasscutter]

Mine is due this year local in dependant quoted £800-£1000 using genuine Fiat kit which is now £400+vat

Just interested in who you are using down here.

 

[CazPaul]

Mine is due this year local in dependant quoted £800-£1000 using genuine Fiat kit which is now £400+vat

Wow I must be behind the times first impression is very expensive but maybe not if the Fiat kit is that much.

 

[Lenny HB]

Wow I must be behind the times first impression is very expensive but maybe not if the Fiat kit is that much.

The Fiat kit rocketed in price a a year or two ago.
Gave me a shock but cheaper than a new engine if a belt let's go.

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[Larrynwin]

Just had cam belt and water pump on my B544 done by Simpsons a motorhome dealer for £995.

 

[JockandRita]

Using a Gates complete timing belt kit, my mechanic pal did our Fiat/Hymer 2.8TDi for around £300, and it took him about 3.5 x hours.
He also did one on a Fiat X250 based MH, for a fellow Funster who travelled up from Cambridge, and for not a lot more.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[Lenny HB]

Using a Gates complete timing belt kit, my mechanic pal did our Fiat/Hymer 2.8TDi for around £300, and it took him about 3.5 x hours.
He also did one on a Fiat X250 based MH, for a fellow Funster who travelled up from Cambridge, and for not a lot more.

Cheers,

Jock.

The 244 is a lot easier and you don't have bother with the water pump.
Our independant used to use Gates but stopped after having problems with them.

 

[JockandRita]

The 244 is a lot easier and you don't have bother with the water pump.

That included the water pump change, which he did every other belt change. It had 3 x cam belt changes during our ownership.
He's been doing HGV mechanics for over 30 x years, and really knows his stuff. He may choose a different make timing belt kit today, but at the time, Gates was the favourite.

He and I did a full Iveco clutch kit and dual mass flywheel change, on my driveway back in October. I won't have anyone else work on our MH, whilst he is still able to do the work for me.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[bigtwin]

On a 2.8jtd, we paid £626 in January for a cam belt change and MoT.

Ian

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[Scoffsontour]

Hello
It's almost 5 years since the timing belt was done on my Hymer B544 2.3 (130bhp). No mention of the water pump being done though, but not had any problems.

So as the vans an A class Hymer, any ideas what it should cost and exactly what needs doing ? It usually goes to local HGV/bus/coach dealer garage who do lots of motorhome servicing. Looking for an idea before we get a quote.

thanks.

We paid £450 for ours same vehicle just 2.8 diesel. I thought that was expensive but pleased it's done. Good luck

 

[Redken]

Last year paid £350 for full kit fitted at Pit Stop garage Manchester. That included a 5mile pick up and drop off, they gave me the old parts which after 5 years still looked nearly new.

 

[Lenny HB]

Just interested in who you are using down here.

Lancing Commercial a nice family run firm.

Lancing Commercial Truck, Van and Motorhome specialists

Lancing Commercial – Truck van and motorhome repairs, servicing and MOTs, based in Lancing, West Sussex. Highly-skilled, long-established commercial garage, VOSA registered, members of Approved Workshop Scheme for motorhome MOTs, repairs and habitation services.

www.lancingcommercial.co.uk

 

[EuroTrotters]

£240 or 2001 FIAT 2.8 TDI

 

[sonar]

Mine is due this year local in dependant quoted £800-£1000 using genuine Fiat kit which is now £400+vat

That price includes a new fiat .
thats £400 for what a rubber belt and pump .

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[nicholsong]

Our 2.8jtd(2003) is currently in the garage for cam belt change. Remember the belts deteriorate with age, but the water pumps with use. I trust my commercial garage (10 years experience with them) and they said my pump did not need changing at 55,000 miles.

Who makes the FIAT kit for them - Gates?

I cannot compare prices because our Polish garage charges well less than UK.

 

[Lenny HB]

That price includes a new fiat .
thats £400 for what a rubber belt and pump .

Belt tensioners & pump by the time you add the vat £480. You can get cheaper kits for a couple of hundred less but is it worth the risk with engines costing 8-10k these days.

 

[Taran_Las]

I use Motus commercials Wrexham/Saltney. They've estimated the belt change at £1100 inc. vat. They inform me that Fiat now product a complete kit which includes the water pump.

 

[bexleyjohn]

I have a Fiat-based MH (2016 2.3 150hp) low profile not A-class, which had its annual full service plus cam belt change (no water pump) in May 2021 for a total of £746 inc VAT. Have used same company since I bought the MH brand new in May 2016.

 

[CazPaul]

Our 2.8jtd(2003) is currently in the garage for cam belt change. Remember the belts deteriorate with age, but the water pumps with use. I trust my commercial garage (10 years experience with them) and they said my pump did not need changing at 55,000 miles.

Who makes the FIAT kit for them - Gates?

I cannot compare prices because our Polish garage charges well less than UK.

Yes good question that, who actually makes the Fiat kit for them?

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[BusyBuilder]

So it looks like the price depends on who is doing it. I'm getting a quote this week from my local HGV garage.

 

[Manic]

£240 or 2001 FIAT 2.8 TDI

Same for my 2001 Hymer fiat

 

[Wannabee]

At the risk of opening up a thread(s) on the preference for particular makes of timing belt kits & pulleys, the vehicle manufacturers don't make their own kit in the same way they don't make their own tyres or windscreens.

Gates are a well known, world class global engineering company who supply direct to vehicle manufacturers. I was an applications engineer with a subsidiary of Siemens, and sold their automation kit (industrial timing and V belts, pulleys etc) for 23 years and I don't ever remember having any issues. Failures were often down to where the application was incorrectly specified or installed (usually bending or twisting the belt on installation which invisibly breaks the tensile cords). I suspect the small numbers of MH installers who have had problems wasn't to do with the kit itself, but the belt is always the thing that gets blamed - and therefore the make gets universally condemned on a small and unrepresentative sample size of (say) 2.

Having said that all manufacturers and components have a failure rate, nothing is 100%. Industrial bearing life for example is expressed in L10 life - the point at which 10% won't reach the intended and published life. Manufacturing it to any closer tolerance is not either not possible or cost effective, so we live with the risk. You don't want that 10% to be one of yours of course - as far as you are concerned that's a 100% failure rate.

I'll happily fit any of the branded kits from Gates, Ina, SKF, Dayco, Aisin etc when the time comes. Many of those separate brands use bearings from SKF and Ina anyway in the pulley hub, and they package the kit around them with components from various places. I won't be paying the inflated manufacturer's kit prices, unless it would compromise the main warranty which adds a different proposition.

 

[Spriddler]

Lancing Commercial a nice family run firm.

Lancing Commercial Truck, Van and Motorhome specialists

Lancing Commercial – Truck van and motorhome repairs, servicing and MOTs, based in Lancing, West Sussex. Highly-skilled, long-established commercial garage, VOSA registered, members of Approved Workshop Scheme for motorhome MOTs, repairs and habitation services.

www.lancingcommercial.co.uk

My son has taken his Chausson there twice on Lenny HB 's recommendation and been more than satisfied with the quality, the cost and the service.

 

[Wannabee]

Any trusted repairers in the West Yorkshire area Funster's can recommend for servicing and/or MOT?

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[PhilandMena]

I was quoted £1, 450.00 by local our Fiat dealer for x 250 2.3 Ltr. (Coach build). Eventually got it done for £350.00 all in thanks to my Son-in-Law who works in the trade and had an arrangement with a friend who owns a service shop and they call him the cam belt king. So, consider myself very lucky to have family and friends in the business. I did manage to get a quote for £600.00 from a service centre but then subsequently informed they were not that great and had complaints about there service. Its a sodding minefield out there and whist price is key, what's more important to me is having confidence that the job is going to be done correctly by someone who knows what there doing.

 

[Wannabee]

Otherwise it defeats the object!

 

[Barney1905]

I had mine done two weeks ago cambelt and water pump £350.

 

[Monty777]

I am under the (probably incorrect) impression that our 2016 Hymer Exsis 414 2.3 has a cam chain not a belt-does anyone know for sure-Lenny? It has only done 10,400 miles from new but the belt-assuming it has one-is now 6 years old so probably needs replacement because of age?

John

 

[Larrynwin]

I am under the (probably incorrect) impression that our 2016 Hymer Exsis 414 2.3 has a cam chain not a belt-does anyone know for sure-Lenny? It has only done 10,400 miles from new but the belt-assuming it has one-is now 6 years old so probably needs replacement because of age?

John

My 2016 Hymer B544 Fiat 2.3 150 has timing belt which I have just had changed, I doubt very much that yours has a timing chain.

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