Fiat Ducato Cab Door Security - New Product

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IanRJ

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One of my main security concerns when travelling has been the ease of pricking the driver's side door lock, which will instantly unlock the vans central locking, just by inserting a screwdriver under the door handle - between the plastic and the door metal. Thus allowing entry at any time, most worrying when possibly sleeping in the van. I've tried the cable between the door handles as a method to secure the doors at night but it's so inconvenient because the cable interferes with the chair backs. Also tried a cable from the door to the seat base but also not the answer, the cable slips around on the door or base.

So I decided, after seeing several videos of the Heosafe Cab Door Security Locks they would be a better solution. Pricy at £150 a pair, but worth it for peace of mind. However, they require cutting of the Remus Blinds to actually attach them, the entire corner of the blinds casing needs to be trimmed to a specific shape, a permanent mod which (from the videos I have seen) does not leave a very attractive finish.

I was going to fit these Heosafe Cab Door Security Locks to my Autotrail tomorrow, but in the meantime (YouTube Addiction) I came across this on a YouTube channel 'Travel Time NI'.



A company in Germany is making a very simple plate that fixes over the driver's door lock (inside the door) and solves the 'pricking of the lock' problem. They also have a great little pair of 'chain' ties that pretty much do what the 'cable between the doors method' does but without the inconvenience. A bracket is fitted to an existing screw on the door and a chain is attached - which when the door is closed can then be hooked onto the seatbelt bracket of the van. Essentially stopping the door from being pulled open.

Here is a link to the plate for the lock and below it on the webpage the ties for the doors.



The Heosafe Locks will be on their way back to Amazon tomorrow! These, together with the (now widely known) motorcycle disc lock on the seat swivel measure will probably be the extent of my security mods for the cab. Unfortunately, the Hab door is not so easily secured as there is little space between the door frame and the cabinetry to fit a Had door lock such as the Fiama. Currently, I'm just using a torch to wedge the door handle to ensure the hab door is not openable from outside. But the hab door is still not secure when we leave the van.

Any ideas on that would be appreciated.
 
Vanderek said:
I fitted Proplates to the outside of locks a couple of weeks ago. Some security products are not a visible deterrent, so damaged can be done before access is restricted.
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I looked at those first but the price and fitting put me off.

I think a sticker comes with the kit which I can put just under the lock that 'MIGHT' persuade the nefarious to just 'move on'?
 
I fitted two of these........ £22 for four.

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Vanderek said:
Some security products are not a visible deterrent, so damaged can be done before access is restricted.
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I fitted ProPlates for the same reason and HeoSafe locks with a warning sticker saying they are fitted.

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IanRJ said:
One of my main security concerns when travelling has been the ease of pricking the driver's side door lock, which will instantly unlock the vans central locking, just by inserting a screwdriver under the door handle - between the plastic and the door metal. Thus allowing entry at any time, most worrying when possibly sleeping in the van. I've tried the cable between the door handles as a method to secure the doors at night but it's so inconvenient because the cable interferes with the chair backs. Also tried a cable from the door to the seat base but also not the answer, the cable slips around on the door or base.

So I decided, after seeing several videos of the Heosafe Cab Door Security Locks they would be a better solution. Pricy at £150 a pair, but worth it for peace of mind. However, they require cutting of the Remus Blinds to actually attach them, the entire corner of the blinds casing needs to be trimmed to a specific shape, a permanent mod which (from the videos I have seen) does not leave a very attractive finish.

I was going to fit these Heosafe Cab Door Security Locks to my Autotrail tomorrow, but in the meantime (YouTube Addiction) I came across this on a YouTube channel 'Travel Time NI'.



A company in Germany is making a very simple plate that fixes over the driver's door lock (inside the door) and solves the 'pricking of the lock' problem. They also have a great little pair of 'chain' ties that pretty much do what the 'cable between the doors method' does but without the inconvenience. A bracket is fitted to an existing screw on the door and a chain is attached - which when the door is closed can then be hooked onto the seatbelt bracket of the van. Essentially stopping the door from being pulled open.

Here is a link to the plate for the lock and below it on the webpage the ties for the doors.



The Heosafe Locks will be on their way back to Amazon tomorrow! These, together with the (now widely known) motorcycle disc lock on the seat swivel measure will probably be the extent of my security mods for the cab. Unfortunately, the Hab door is not so easily secured as there is little space between the door frame and the cabinetry to fit a Had door lock such as the Fiama. Currently, I'm just using a torch to wedge the door handle to ensure the hab door is not openable from outside. But the hab door is still not secure when we leave the van.

Any ideas on that would be appreciated.
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Interesting name ;), although could be most appropriate.
 
I tried that Milenco but the cabinetry inside the van was too tight for the inside lock and handle, but I have to say the idea of locking from the inside and outside is a good one. Also, I have seen some discussion about these locks (much like the Fiamma) leaving a wide gap between the door and the lock allowing an easy lever to be inserted to pull the lock (and presumably the wall of the van) away and open the door. Fiamma has now introduced spacers to solve this with their lock but not sure if the Milenco has a similar issue.
 
IanRJ said:
One of my main security concerns when travelling has been the ease of pricking the driver's side door lock, which will instantly unlock the vans central locking, just by inserting a screwdriver under the door handle - between the plastic and the door metal. Thus allowing entry at any time, most worrying when possibly sleeping in the van. I've tried the cable between the door handles as a method to secure the doors at night but it's so inconvenient because the cable interferes with the chair backs. Also tried a cable from the door to the seat base but also not the answer, the cable slips around on the door or base.

So I decided, after seeing several videos of the Heosafe Cab Door Security Locks they would be a better solution. Pricy at £150 a pair, but worth it for peace of mind. However, they require cutting of the Remus Blinds to actually attach them, the entire corner of the blinds casing needs to be trimmed to a specific shape, a permanent mod which (from the videos I have seen) does not leave a very attractive finish.

I was going to fit these Heosafe Cab Door Security Locks to my Autotrail tomorrow, but in the meantime (YouTube Addiction) I came across this on a YouTube channel 'Travel Time NI'.



A company in Germany is making a very simple plate that fixes over the driver's door lock (inside the door) and solves the 'pricking of the lock' problem. They also have a great little pair of 'chain' ties that pretty much do what the 'cable between the doors method' does but without the inconvenience. A bracket is fitted to an existing screw on the door and a chain is attached - which when the door is closed can then be hooked onto the seatbelt bracket of the van. Essentially stopping the door from being pulled open.

Here is a link to the plate for the lock and below it on the webpage the ties for the doors.



The Heosafe Locks will be on their way back to Amazon tomorrow! These, together with the (now widely known) motorcycle disc lock on the seat swivel measure will probably be the extent of my security mods for the cab. Unfortunately, the Hab door is not so easily secured as there is little space between the door frame and the cabinetry to fit a Had door lock such as the Fiama. Currently, I'm just using a torch to wedge the door handle to ensure the hab door is not openable from outside. But the hab door is still not secure when we leave the van.

Any ideas on that would be appreciated.
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The good thing about heosafe is that they would have to climb in through a broken window to enter the van and also exit the same way which to me is a deterrent. BUSBY.
 
Ian rj when you fit the german ones could you video the operation and post on here. The instructions/ pictures aren’t too clear.
 
Another vote for heosafe on the cab doors. Fairly simple fix - but We don't have remis blinds!
About £30 cheaper from Amazon.de than from Amazon.co.uk!


Also copied the idea from .....

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for the habitation door. Cut from 3mm sheet stainless offcut. On the Hartal hab door on our Burstner needed an Elefant 2.

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Barry

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The elefant is a great idea for security when in the van, beats wedging a torch into the door handle - though same result LOL. Just couldn't find one for the Autotrail.
 
We have had a couple of Womo Tuning (now renamed to Camper Protect) products (for sliding door & rear doors) for over a year now & they do work well - see https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/foru...ding-accessories-discount-codes.184590/page-7 from post #192 onwards. There are some photos of the cab door lock version on post #199 for anyone considering those.
A new product is their OBD lock which is one that we are considering adding <Broken link removed>
 
IanRJ said:
One of my main security concerns when travelling has been the ease of pricking the driver's side door lock, which will instantly unlock the vans central locking, just by inserting a screwdriver under the door handle - between the plastic and the door metal. Thus allowing entry at any time, most worrying when possibly sleeping in the van. I've tried the cable between the door handles as a method to secure the doors at night but it's so inconvenient because the cable interferes with the chair backs. Also tried a cable from the door to the seat base but also not the answer, the cable slips around on the door or base.

So I decided, after seeing several videos of the Heosafe Cab Door Security Locks they would be a better solution. Pricy at £150 a pair, but worth it for peace of mind. However, they require cutting of the Remus Blinds to actually attach them, the entire corner of the blinds casing needs to be trimmed to a specific shape, a permanent mod which (from the videos I have seen) does not leave a very attractive finish.

I was going to fit these Heosafe Cab Door Security Locks to my Autotrail tomorrow, but in the meantime (YouTube Addiction) I came across this on a YouTube channel 'Travel Time NI'.



A company in Germany is making a very simple plate that fixes over the driver's door lock (inside the door) and solves the 'pricking of the lock' problem. They also have a great little pair of 'chain' ties that pretty much do what the 'cable between the doors method' does but without the inconvenience. A bracket is fitted to an existing screw on the door and a chain is attached - which when the door is closed can then be hooked onto the seatbelt bracket of the van. Essentially stopping the door from being pulled open.

Here is a link to the plate for the lock and below it on the webpage the ties for the doors.



The Heosafe Locks will be on their way back to Amazon tomorrow! These, together with the (now widely known) motorcycle disc lock on the seat swivel measure will probably be the extent of my security mods for the cab. Unfortunately, the Hab door is not so easily secured as there is little space between the door frame and the cabinetry to fit a Had door lock such as the Fiama. Currently, I'm just using a torch to wedge the door handle to ensure the hab door is not openable from outside. But the hab door is still not secure when we leave the van.

Any ideas on that would be appreciated.
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I fitted these 2 years ago. Brilliant.
I have also bought a pair of dummy Deadlocks. They stick on to the outside of the door and look VERY authentic.
Mitch.
 
PaddyM said:
Have you a pic of them in situ in the van , I’ve just bought a set . Cheers .
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Sorry. Sold van years ago.
You drill too small holes in door at upper curved edge so when you turn the dash lock it overlaps the door frame. Might need spacers to get right height.
 
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