EU.. 90 Days..Ireland .. Common Travel Area

[Busybeeyellam]

I'm just wondering;.... If the new regulations mean that we can only visit the EU for 90 days in a 180 day period ... How will that affect visits to Ireland which is part of The Common Travel Area ? Will it be possible to visit continental EU for 90 days and then head straight over to Ireland or vice versa... put another way; Will time in Ireland count as part of the 90 day rule ? Any ideas ?

 

[David and Sally]

What a good question

Ireland is not in Schengen so it may differ from France, Spain etc

 

[Wissel]

Great question, and one I'd also like the answer too.

Would also like to know if there will be extra requirements taking my dog to N.I.?

 

[Larrynwin]

This might help

Travel or do business in Europe: Brexit guidance

Find out how new Brexit rules apply to things like travelling, working, studying and doing business with Europe in or with EU countries.

www.gov.uk

 

[Imala615]

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[Helen Ariel]

There's no border between NI and Ireland so if you entered from NI it couldn't count as how would they know?

 

[tacr2man]

Got it here

Common Travel Area guidance

www.gov.uk

 

[Clipgate]

The common travel area predates the EU in fact it was agreed in 1922 from memory, it bestows far more rights than many area aware of, for instance no passport required, just a photo identification reciprocal rights of residence etc.
Thus no 90 day rule for UK citizens.

 

[tacr2man]

The common travel area predates the EU in fact it was agreed in 1922 from memory, it bestows far more rights than many area aware of, for instance no passport required, just a photo identification reciprocal rights of residence etc.
Thus no 90 day rule for UK citizens.

Just make sure your photo ID has your home address on it !

 

[Clipgate]

In deed correct, driving licence is often to the go to means of compliance.

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[dunnah01]

I'm just wondering;.... If the new regulations mean that we can only visit the EU for 90 days in a 180 day period ... How will that affect visits to Ireland which is part of The Common Travel Area ? Will it be possible to visit continental EU for 90 days and then head straight over to Ireland or vice versa... put another way; Will time in Ireland count as part of the 90 day rule ? Any ideas ?

Ireland isn't in Schengen so don't see why existing rules would change - so your allowed 90 days there and then 90 days in Schengen

 

[Potty]

Great question, and one I'd also like the answer too.

Would also like to know if there will be extra requirements taking my dog to N.I.?

Answer to pets here, rather a lot to take in, section 5 is the relevant one

 

[Wissel]

Answer to pets here, rather a lot to take in, section 5 is the relevant one

Just a quick read, but it seemed that entering N.I. will be treated the same as entering the EU (pet wise)?

If so, not at all the same as here:

Taking your pet dog, cat or ferret abroad

Take your pet dog, cat or ferret abroad: getting a pet passport or export health certificate, microchip, vaccinations and tapeworm treatments.

www.gov.uk

Guess it will all become clear(ish) soon

 

[dipsie]

Is Switzerland in the Schengen area, if not could you stay there for over 90 days ? That is if one could afford it.

 

[EdwardFT]

Switzerland is in Schengen.

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[Camdoon]

The Irish will check your address. Apparently a Pole, their most prolific law breaker, Prawo Jazdy, gave them the run around by having numerous addresses.

 

[Rob Hammond]

Great question, and one I'd also like the answer too.

Would also like to know if there will be extra requirements taking my dog to N.I.?

Is NI not part of the uk ?

 

[Potty]

Just a quick read, but it seemed that entering N.I. will be treated the same as entering the EU (pet wise)?

If so, not at all the same as here:

Taking your pet dog, cat or ferret abroad

Take your pet dog, cat or ferret abroad: getting a pet passport or export health certificate, microchip, vaccinations and tapeworm treatments.

www.gov.uk

Guess it will all become clear(ish) soon

Found the quoted site after a friend in NI was worried about taking her dog over the border, thinking she might need a health certificate for every trip.

 

[Busybeeyellam]

My original question was not about Northern Ireland, but about legal and pragmatic realities re. EU, 90 days and the Common Travel Area with the Republic of Ireland. Entering Ireland through N.I. would involve 100's of extra miles and mean no direct travel from/to mainland EU. from Ireland. Also would there be ANPR on the border roads that would register your visit.

 

[Wissel]

Is NI not part of the uk ?

Reading the new EU paper above, it was.

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[Rob Hammond]

My original question was not about Northern Ireland, but about legal and pragmatic realities re. EU, 90 days and the Common Travel Area with the Republic of Ireland. Entering Ireland through N.I. would involve 100's of extra miles and mean no direct travel from/to mainland EU. from Ireland. Also would there be ANPR on the border roads that would register your visit.

Who knows,all speculation at the mo ,nothing agreed until everything agreed

 

[bobandjanie]

I read that British Citizens can stay as long as they like in the Republic of Ireland .
Just below the eu calaculator link.

BREXIT: What Brits in Europe need to know about travel from January 2021

Here's a reminder to Britons living around Europe of some of the rules they will have to abide by when travelling after January 1st 2021.

www.thelocal.com

So all us British Citizens ........... Spanish residents are sorted. Bob.

 

[Minxy]

Great question, and one I'd also like the answer too.

Would also like to know if there will be extra requirements taking my dog to N.I.?

Answer to pets here, rather a lot to take in, section 5 is the relevant one

The document mentioned gives clear information that in addition to the AHC the worming treatment will need to be done too if you intend to take your furry friend from GB to NI or Ireland, something that has never been needed before.

In addition, prior to entry into Finland, Ireland, Northern Ireland, or Malta from Great Britain, pet dogs will have to be treated against Echinococcus multilocularis and this treatment must be attested by the official or authorised veterinarian in the animal health certificate.​

 

[Potty]

The document mentioned gives clear information that in addition to the AHC the worming treatment will need to be done too if you intend to take your furry friend from GB to NI or Ireland, something that has never been needed before.

In addition, prior to entry into Finland, Ireland, Northern Ireland, or Malta from Great Britain, pet dogs will have to be treated against Echinococcus multilocularis and this treatment must be attested by the official or authorised veterinarian in the animal health certificate.​

I don’t understand why that should be necessary. It is not required for entry into the EU

 

[Minxy]

I don’t understand why that should be necessary. It is not required for entry into the EU

Agreed, but that's what it says ...

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[russ the rambler]

I make no comment on the pros and cons of the ‘B’ word, but…when things settle down, I would be amazed if there isn’t something similar to the ‘long term tourist visa’ that’s available to US citizens? This applies to just one country and you need to prove you have sufficient savings etc, but surely Spain and Portugal will want to encourage UK citizens to stay in local campsites and spend money through the winter? They won’t make it that difficult. You would probably be able to apply based on your UK pension income.

 

[gpat]

I make no comment on the pros and cons of the ‘B’ word, but…when things settle down, I would be amazed if there isn’t something similar to the ‘long term tourist visa’ that’s available to US citizens? This applies to just one country and you need to prove you have sufficient savings etc, but surely Spain and Portugal will want to encourage UK citizens to stay in local campsites and spend money through the winter? They won’t make it that difficult. You would probably be able to apply based on your UK pension income.

we have fingers crossed

 

[Minxy]

I make no comment on the pros and cons of the ‘B’ word, but…when things settle down, I would be amazed if there isn’t something similar to the ‘long term tourist visa’ that’s available to US citizens? This applies to just one country and you need to prove you have sufficient savings etc, but surely Spain and Portugal will want to encourage UK citizens to stay in local campsites and spend money through the winter? They won’t make it that difficult. You would probably be able to apply based on your UK pension income.

I agree, it would be extremely unlikely for their NOT to be something like this in place otherwise the UK would be being unfairly treated in relation to all other countries.

 

[Potty]

I agree, it would be extremely unlikely for their NOT to be something like this in place otherwise the UK would be being unfairly treated in relation to all other countries.

All non EU countries are affected by the 90 days rule at the moment and quite a lot also need a Tourist visa, so the U.K. is just being treated the same.

 

[Minxy]

All non EU countries are affected by the 90 days rule at the moment and quite a lot also need a Tourist visa, so the U.K. is just being treated the same.

Yes I know, we weren't talking about the 90 days rule itself but about being able to extend your stay longer - other non-EU country travellers have the visa available to them so they can go into the EU for longer (obviously if they meet the criteria), which is what I believe will happen for UK travellers too, ie come in line with other non-EU countries - as we are still part of the EU it is something we don't need at present so may not yet 'exist' for us in the same way it does for others therefore will need to be included in the new rules.

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