Electric TOAD on an A Frame (1 Viewer)

[BigDean]

Morning all,

It appears that current A Frame systems are not capable of having an EV as a tow car.

What do people think. If a system was available, would an EV be an option?

It certainly would for us.

Should I spend time looking at a solution or is it just me????

Thanks
BigDean.

 

[The Coops]

I may be wrong and am sure someone will correct me but EV is not an option as they cannot be towed or so it says in my hand book, recovery by trailer if broken down

 

[David and Sally]

I may be wrong and am sure someone will correct me but EV is not an option as they cannot be towed or so it says in my hand book, recovery by trailer if broken down

Is that because they can't freewheel?

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[The Coops]

I think that is the case

 

[jockaneezer]

Just lift the dynamo off the tyre and you'll be fine !

 

[BigDean]

Currently does not seem to be possible.

I am happy to speak with the manufacturers and see what the limitation is and if there is a possible solution, but only if there is more interest than just me!

Thanks

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[teddybear]

Handbook used to say same for smart card,but there is a lot out there being towed

 

[SpeedyDux]

The OP has it the wrong way round.

Surely the EV is supposed to tow the MH?

 

[Steve and Denise]

Can’t see any point in ev unless there is a fixed charging point plus there is the weight, small petrol one does the job perfectly

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[BigDean]

Can’t see any point in ev unless there is a fixed charging point plus there is the weight, small petrol one does the job perfectly

Depends on your view of the future and sustainability. Each to their own.

 

[Odd job]

Apart from the weight how would you charge it?

 

[BigDean]

From the EV point I have at my house in the UK, the EV point I have at my house in Europe that I base myself from when touring, and from the many supermarkets, "petrol" stations & thousands of other EV outlets available in the UK and Europe.

I understand there is range anxiety from some, but that is of no concern to me. The fact I can "fill up" every night when at home for next to no cost is far more convenient that stopping for fuel. And when on the road, I am not in that much of a rush that I cant wait 30 minutes or so to charge to 80%. I take that long when filling up the motorhome, taking a break and making a cuppa.

Don't get me wrong, I still have petrol/diesel engines in some of my vehicles, but for me personally the natural evolution for me is to tow an EV. I will switch to alternative power for each when it is feasible to do so.

My question was simply if anyone else would want to tow an EV on an A Frame?

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[Minxy]

I suppose one of the questions is, even if you could somehow tow an EV car fitted with an A-frame where realistically could you use it? With countries banning this practice in the EU (ie one vehicle towing another) it could become a bit of a white elephant that you could only use in the UK. I'm not going to go into the legalities of whether it becomes a trailer as that's not the issue abroad and at present the UK hasn't mandated against this.

When I first read this I though you were asking about an EV powered car towing another car, not the EV powered car being the toad.

 

[BigDean]

I suppose one of the questions is, even if you could somehow tow an EV car fitted with an A-frame where realistically could you use it? With countries banning this practice in the EU (ie one vehicle towing another) it could become a bit of a white elephant that you could only use in the UK. I'm not going to go into the legalities of whether it becomes a trailer as that's not the issue abroad and at present the UK hasn't mandated against this.

When I first read this I though you were asking about an EV powered car towing another car, not the EV powered car being the toad.

Sorry for the confusion. MoHo towing an EV is the question.

 

[eddie]

Its illegal anyway

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[Silver-Fox]

I understand there is range anxiety from some, but that is of no concern to me.

Is that because your butler can come and collect you

Sorry couldn’t resist , no offence intended

 

[Minxy]

Sorry for the confusion. MoHo towing an EV is the question.

No apology necessary ... even I, the one and only Minxy Girl (I can already hear some saying "thank goodness"!), occasionally type the wrong word and confuse people ... two which I have to be very careful with are 'now' and 'not' ... they can completely change the context of a sentence!

 

[BigDean]

Its illegal anyway

That has been discussed to death previously, so not interested in resurrecting that one again.

I simply wanted to see if anyone else wants to tow an EV on their motorhome on an A Frame?

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[BigDean]

Is that because your butler can come and collect you

Sorry couldn’t resist , no offence intended

He could, but he will have run out of petrol at the side of the M2

 

[Geo]

Im already regularly frustrated at waiting for two or more cars to fuels up as it is
the thought of waiting 2 or 3 40 minuet sessions blows ALL electric vehicles out the water for me period
I can hear you say "I have never had a queuing problem, just wait till th numbers of EV greatly outnumber the charge points
Besides the EVs are only a stopgap solution and a knee jerk reaction whilst we sort out another alternative to save the planet
You may have guessed im not an EV fan
ps I still have a Dinosaur as a pet

 

[Silver-Fox]

He could, but he will have run out of petrol at the side of the M2

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[Westbarn1]

Why not tow your EV on a trailer, A frame not legal in Europe anyway.

 

[BigDean]

Why not tow your EV on a trailer, A frame not legal in Europe anyway.

Thanks for your input, but I am not asking about legality or trailers, the question was to ascertain if anyone would want to tow an EV with their motorhome on an A Frame.

 

[Minxy]

Thanks for your input, but I am not asking about legality or trailers, the question was to ascertain if anyone would want to tow an EV with their motorhome on an A Frame.

Thinking more about it, it's not just whether it can be towed due to the transmission, but also the weight ... I wonder if the front of EVs are not 'beefy' enough to have an A-frame attached due to the additional weight of the batteries, even though I appreciate some of the other bits aren't installed in the car that would normally be for a diesel/petrol one.

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[Steve and Denise]

That would be a no from me

 

[BigDean]

Thinking more about it, it's not just whether it can be towed due to the transmission, but also the weight ... I wonder if the front of EVs are not 'beefy' enough to have an A-frame attached due to the additional weight of the batteries, even though I appreciate some of the other bits aren't installed in the car that would normally be for a diesel/petrol one.

Good points. I think I will discuss with a manufacturer. Could be an absolute non starter, but you never know.

Thanks

 

[Peppadog]

Not me BigDean. We have a Toyota IQ that can't be towed as its automatic. EV's, of which I am keen, have a similar issue (I don't think they can freewheel?). So my only option is a trailer for either. This is no problem until I get on a site and have to find somewhere to put it!

I went back to the drawing board and decided to tow either my motorcycle, or sell that and buy a scooter (possibly EV as they are about now) to tow on a small, lightweight, side loading trailer. I could just put a rack on the back of my Hymer, but rear axle load weight makes that a bit marginal. So I now have a bike trailer on order. It is ready to collect in March. In theory anyway.

I wouldn't hesitate to use an A frame if we had a manual IQ AND it was legal to do so in Spain. So they are not for consideration for me.

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[BigDean]

Not me BigDean. We have a Toyota IQ that can't be towed as its automatic. EV's, of which I am keen, have a similar issue. So my only option is a trailer for either. This is no problem until I get on a site and have to find somewhere to put it!

I went back to the drawing board and decided to tow either my motorcycle, or sell that and buy a scooter (possible EV as they are about not) to tow on a small, lightweight, side loading trailer. I could just put a rack on the back of my Hymer, but rear axle load weight makes that a bit marginal. So I now have one on order. It is ready to collect in March. In theory anyway.

I wouldn't hesitate to use an A frame if we had a manual IQ AND it was legal to do so in Spain. So they are not for consideration for me.

Thanks for the input.

 

[EuroTrotters]

Problem will be weight for many.

ID.3 from VW is 1,600Kg's !

If you cant A Frame it and it has to be towed. You are looking at a heavy load for a toad.

Renault Zoe is just a bit lighter.

 

[BigDean]

Fair point for that particular car. There are lighter ones, and new ones coming out all the time.

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