DVLA - Trying to get rid of older drivers?

[Puddleduck]

Not sure how they would treadmill test someone without legs who uses a car converted to hand controls.

I think a drug alternative can be used to replicate the stresses that a heart undergoes when exercising.

I hope I never have to have that sort of test as I can't have the ECG pads - they give me an extreme form of contact dermatitis. They have done an echocardiogram (all normal) but needed to use an alternative gel.

 

[Spriddler]

Don't they all? The previous company I worked for had a full time advanced driver/trainer/assessor and he was totally into himself and bloody useless

Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach.

 

[John65]

So in essence, what's the point of the modules?

None whatsoever just a money making racket for someone. First time round they were charging £75 per module to learn nowt!

 

[busby]

Thanks.
I have the CPC nat. and international, and my DQC runs out in June.
I've held all the licences since 1968/1971. Just wondering if it's going to be cost effective to renew DQC, or finally give up on the big stuff.

Give up and get some long term touring done in your van,,BUSBY

 

[The Dotties]

Give up and get some long term touring done in your van,,BUSBY

I do enjoy the odd trips, mainly psv. these days just on local work. No more chasing ferries and deadlines, but I think you may be right

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[EX51SSS]

Thanks.
I have the CPC nat. and international, and my DQC runs out in June.
I've held all the licences since 1968/1971. Just wondering if it's going to be cost effective to renew DQC, or finally give up on the big stuff.

Ah yes, the DQC came in earlier for PSV although mine goes on till 2019 for both

 

[LOOSE WHEEL]

Well this post as certainly grown since I last posted, it’s proven that the majority of use are more than qualified to drive motorhomes and the rest are old enough to be more careful.
So let’s all chill out kick your shoes off put your feet in the sand and enjoy what we have All worked hard for.

Then hope, an over qualified HGV, PSV, police office or any other person who as gone to loads of expense and training doesn’t have a bad day and run into our pride and joy .
Happy holidays
Andy

 

[robiebee]

I renewed my license a few months ago and I had a medical but didn't have to go on any treadmill etc and when I got my license from dvla they had reinstated my full hgv class 1 as well as c1 etc so is this fitness thing new ?

 

[busby]

I renewed my license a few months ago and I had a medical but didn't have to go on any treadmill etc and when I got my license from dvla they had reinstated my full hgv class 1 as well as c1 etc so is this fitness thing new ?

Think it depends on your medical history,,i.e.Cardiac problems,,,BUSBY.

 

[Stretto Boy]

Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach.

Those who can’t teach, teach teachers

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[laurieash]

I struggled on the second 3 minutes and thought about calling it a day but held out till the end. Consultant said I would be fine. Then said he wanted my atorvastatin increased from 20mg to 80mg and bloody hell have I suffered with muscle and joint pain since. Not taking any now till pain stops then back to 20mg. Just had to cancel 8 day trip as trouble driving manual at moment.
New licence arrived OK.
Steve

Atorvastatin I have been taking them now for 8 months I get muscle pain in my arms and joints never had it before.

 

[EX51SSS]

Atorvastatin I have been taking them now for 8 months I get muscle pain in my arms and joints never had it before.

I'm on Simvistatin and terrible aches in my arms. Pharmacist said cut in half. Now, 6 months on the pains are slowly going but as the pharmacist said, they may go but may stay.

 

[laurieash]

Atorvastatin 20mg is what I am on so might try half a tablet.

 

[EX51SSS]

Atorvastatin 20mg is what I am on so might try half a tablet.

It might take some time to get relief, if any, but eventually my pains are subsiding.

 

[sweetie]

I had been on Atorvastatin 20mg for 20+ years with no problems. When I went for exercise ECG to retain C1 when reached 70 requested by DVLA consultant wrote to my doctor requesting 80mg why I do not know.
Going back to doctor on Monday as I stopped taking them altogether 2 weeks ago and pains and spasms are worse some days than when I was taking them.

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[MR. FUSION]

I have to use my horn most of the time in the Morrisons car park in Troon, as I am firmly convinced most 75+ year olds can't actually look behind them when reversing so just go for it hoping others will stop for them

 

[busby]

I have to use my horn most of the time in the Morrisons car park in Troon, as I am firmly convinced most 75+ year olds can't actually look behind them when reversing so just go for it hoping others will stop for them

Suppose we will all get like that one day because of the onset of old age,,,wonder what the excuse is for the young drivers who do the same..BUSBY

 

[GWAYGWAY]

I struggled on the second 3 minutes and thought about calling it a day but held out till the end. Consultant said I would be fine. Then said he wanted my atorvastatin increased from 20mg to 80mg and bloody hell have I suffered with muscle and joint pain since. Not taking any now till pain stops then back to 20mg. Just had to cancel 8 day trip as trouble driving manual at moment.
New licence arrived OK.
Steve

Statin are the invention of big Pharma to make about 20 billion dollars a year, they do not help health just cause problems with Joints and muscles. You would be far better taking 10000 international units of Vitamin D3 and 300mgs of K2mk7. Take a look at the research site on You tube. Vitamin D the sunshine vitamin with Professor Michael Hollick , it will lead you further to see the benefits.

 

[GWAYGWAY]

Exactly and tbf, I wouldn't rope and sheet nowadays or handball sacks. I leave the customer to do that.

Always ran overweight in the old days then??????? 24 ton?

 

[EX51SSS]

Always ran overweight in the old days then??????? 24 ton?

29 + tonnes net load and never overweight.
There's absolutely no advantage to me to run overweight ever.

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[busby]

Statin are the invention of big Pharma to make about 20 billion dollars a year, they do not help health just cause problems with Joints and muscles. You would be far better taking 10000 international units of Vitamin D3 and 300mgs of K2mk7. Take a look at the research site on You tube. Vitamin D the sunshine vitamin with Professor Michael Hollick , it will lead you further to see the benefits.

You don't need tablets,,change your diet,,we have oily fish 5 days a week,,,both got low cholesterol and decent blood pressure,,,mind you we also exercise well,,,BUSBY,,

 

[Brakers]

Hi Everyone
I have read most of these posts on this thread but just for a bit of information and my licence problems I thought I would let you good people know part of my medical history involving my licence. Although I’ve had an HGV for most of my adult life in 1993 I had a small cardiac infraction.
A couple of years ago I applied for my HGV licence and was sent for a tread mill test which was stopped half way through.
With not completing the test the DVLA sent me for a cardiac profusion test which meant they had to inject me with a solution which made my heart act as though I was doing exercise. I then had to lay on a scanner bed with my arms held above my head and breath shallowly for 15 minutes while the scanner did it’s job. I won’t boar you with the whole story somewhere in this test I had to drink a full glass of milk not sure in what order that came.
After this the licence was allowed for two years which runs out in February this year. I will not be renewing my HGV again.
Best Wishes Tony

 

[MR. FUSION]

Suppose we will all get like that one day because of the onset of old age,,,wonder what the excuse is for the young drivers who do the same..BUSBY

Young drivers are to busy on faceberk that is their excuse.

 

[Allanm]

Totally agree with your comments and I agree the action is justified but there are definitely traffic (can't give them respect to call them police) cops that HATE HGV drivers and do ANYTHING to make sure it's the drivers fault.
However, I did notice you said that more than half of fatal accidents involved HGV's. I wonder what percentage of those drivers were to blame or just involved?
The thing is that HGV/PSV drivers have recorded evidence of their working day/week/month whereas other drivers don't and it could be them that fall asleep through lack of rest etc but certainly in this area, that wouldn't be a problem if there's a wagon driver to blame.
Not going into the past or details, what about the school teacher who worked all day then drove a load of kids in a mini bus then crashed into the back of a highway agency lorry killing all those on board the mini bus? Non HGV, no records of how long she'd been working that day, how long she'd been driving and how fast she was going!!!!
I do appreciate there are a lot of cowboy drivers and particularly Johnny Foreigner but not all wagon drivers should be tarred with that brush.

You seem to think the police turn up and flip a coin to see who was at fault. Not so. I was involved in accident reconstruction and it was a lengthy process to arrive at a conclusion. I think you’ll find then that is the person who was at fault who will be blamed

I think you should be careful saying things like that.
Driving standards have dropped sharply, beginning in the 90,s with basic drivers, drivers who were allowed to drive Police cars without any training atall.
Response drivers, who are allowed to take emer calls with the minimal amount of training.
Advanced training now 4 weeks instead of 6.
So, for you to assume they were all advanced drivers is frankly rather silly.

I am pretty sure police driving standards are not as high as when I took my driving courses in the early 90’s

How can you be more skilled just passing a test and 6 weeks at Hendon than a 30 year plus HGV driver,,laughable really but you believe it,,BUSBY

I did 5 weeks training to pass my Standard course then 6 months later I did a 4 week advanced course and got a grade 1. Coupled with 12 years advanced driving and investigating all sorts of accidents, I think, put me in a position to gauge quite accurately the competence of other drivers

Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach.

Well, that’s just rubbish

 

[EX51SSS]

You seem to think the police turn up and flip a coin to see who was at fault. Not so. I was involved in accident reconstruction and it was a lengthy process to arrive at a conclusion. I think you’ll find then that is the person who was at fault who will be blamed

That may be so over a period of time. However, in my experience (30+ years hgv) the coppers usually want to blame to wagon driver. I'm talking the initial contact.
Isn't it usual practice to arrest the LGV/PSV driver albeit they might be de arrested later?

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[Allanm]

Can’t comment on what the police do now, I resigned in ‘99 because I was seriously concerned with the racism and corruption that I was coming up against on an almost daily basis.....

 

[busby]

You seem to think the police turn up and flip a coin to see who was at fault. Not so. I was involved in accident reconstruction and it was a lengthy process to arrive at a conclusion. I think you’ll find then that is the person who was at fault who will be blamed

I am pretty sure police driving standards are not as high as when I took my driving courses in the early 90’s

I did 5 weeks training to pass my Standard course then 6 months later I did a 4 week advanced course and got a grade 1. Coupled with 12 years advanced driving and investigating all sorts of accidents, I think, put me in a position to gauge quite accurately the competence of other drivers

Well, that’s just rubbish

But your 12 years was driving cars not banging in 400 to 500 miles a day in a HGV dodging idiots 12 hrs a day the length and breadth of the country,,,BUSBY

 

[EX51SSS]

Can’t comment on what the police do now, I resigned in ‘99 because I was seriously concerned with the racism and corruption that I was coming up against on an almost daily basis.....

Thank you @Allanm. I appreciate your frankness about racism and corruption but there's also discrimination as in sure you are aware and I know that in our area, the Police discriminate against HGV's.
Some years ago, I was in a tractor unit a day a Range Rover ploughed into the back of me. The Range Rover although very badly damaged, reversed and drove off. My air tanks were ruptured so could only limp to the next junction. I reported it to the Police. The infamous Police officer wanted to charge me with leaving the scene of an accident albeit the others had and I had reported it and advised the Police of my details and requested that I go to work.
Apparently, all the occupants of the Range Rover had been drinking (they drove to the registered address), nobody would say who was driving at the time of the accident so nobody got prosecuted. I was the only one who had to make a statement and I was the victim!!!!!

 

[sweetie]

Statin are the invention of big Pharma to make about 20 billion dollars a year, they do not help health just cause problems with Joints and muscles. You would be far better taking 10000 international units of Vitamin D3 and 300mgs of K2mk7. Take a look at the research site on You tube. Vitamin D the sunshine vitamin with Professor Michael Hollick , it will lead you further to see the benefits.

Thankyou Doctor for your information. The first 20 plus Years I was ok it was only when the big chief (Consultant) increased the dose from 20mg to 80mg I have had the problem.
Would the vitamins you recommend be ok with the other TEN Tablets I have to take each day.
Regards
Steve

 

[sweetie]

But your 12 years was driving cars not banging in 400 to 500 miles a day in a HGV dodging idiots 12 hrs a day the length and breadth of the country,,,BUSBY

But not all HGV drivers drive like idiots.

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