Dashcams - Blessing or Curse?

[Barclaybasher]

Police are acting on footage supplied by members of the public.

Are we now helping Big Brother or helping safety?

 

[Larrynwin]

Handy as evidence if someone takes you out and if their use will catch a few of the don’t care drivers can’t be bad.

 

[The Wino]

Depends if you think you are more likely to suffer from someones bad/illegal driving or get done yourself!. For me theyre a good thing

 

[pappajohn]

No different to phone or CCTV footage really.
Cyclists appear to have been using helmet cam footage to secure assault convictions against drivers for some time.

 

[ivorantony]

Depends if you think you are more likely to suffer from someones bad/illegal driving or get done yourself!. For me theyre a good thing

Agreed! So many dangerous morons on the road, so any thing that’s improves their driving and hopefully think what they are doing is good in my book,

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[Richard n Ann]

I don't agree with the spiteful few who would send footage to the police just so someone would get a fine. You know the type, they own the road and hate all other motorists

 

[The Wino]

Bit like if you support the idea of ID cards abd cctv to me a no brainer I,ve got nothing to hide .

 

[The Wino]

I don't agree with the spiteful few who would send footage to the police just so someone would get a fine. You know the type, they own the road and hate all other motorists

But what would you be doing that would get you a fine thats safe and legal? On the other hand tossers who overtake when its not safe and cut in front of people (the ones who just have to overtake a motorhome then slow down as soon as they are past) or illegally undertake on the motorway would be getting their points a lot quicker. Whats not to like

 

[MattR]

I don't agree with the spiteful few who would send footage to the police just so someone would get a fine. You know the type, they own the road and hate all other motorists

Who is worse, the tw@s driving dangerously or the person sending the video clip to the police? I know who I dislike ...

 

[bigtwin]

......... or illegally undertake on the motorway would be getting their points a lot quicker. Whats not to like

I would never undertake anyone (anywhere) but would have no qualms passing someone on their left.

Ian

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[Jaws]

illegally undertake on the motorway would be getting their points a lot quicker

That was left out of the amendments to the road traffic regs several years ago... As advised to me by a legal eagle when I made a similar comment
It was omitted due to consideration of the congestion caused by CLOGs ( Centre Lane Owners Group members ! ) at the sme time it became an offence to sit in an outer lane for no apparent reason

 

[Richard n Ann]

I would never undertake anyone (anywhere) but would have no qualms passing someone on the left.

Ian

Did it just yesterday on the motorway. Some brain dead zombie driving an old transit in the middle lane, it was busy but the left lane was clear for hundreds of metres. If I'd moved right over to the right hand lane to pass, all the speeding cars would have to slow down to 70... Common sense answer? I sailed past on the inside, rightly or wrongly, sue me

On the same journey I witnessed (and filmed, with dashcam) a pick up truck speeding and moving aggressively from lane to lane cutting in with inches to spare. I can imagine some nasty people reporting it with great relish. We should leave policing of the highways to the police. Cams are to give evidence in an accident. Otherwise let's all try and be more tolerant

 

[MattR]

Did it just yesterday on the motorway. Some brain dead zombie driving an old transit in the middle lane, it was busy but the left lane was clear for hundreds of metres. If I'd moved right over to the right hand lane to pass, all the speeding cars would have to slow down to 70... Common sense answer? I sailed past on the inside, rightly or wrongly, sue me

On the same journey I witnessed (and filmed, with dashcam) a pick up truck speeding and moving aggressively from lane to lane cutting in with inches to spare. I can imagine some nasty people reporting it with great relish. We should leave policing of the highways to the police. Cams are to give evidence in an accident. Otherwise let's all try and be more tolerant

Tolerance or accepting dangerous driving?

 

[bigtwin]

Tolerance or accepting dangerous driving?

Don’t follow. Can you clarify?

Ian

 

[Richard n Ann]

Tolerance or accepting dangerous driving?

It's not our job as members of the public to accept or reject dangerous driving, if what some driver does is unacceptable the police (if they catch them) will deal with it. we don't have a responsibility to police the roads.
We're in danger of turning into a self despising nation of snitches... Similar things happened under Pol Pot and NAZI Germany.

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[ambulancekidd]

Our daughter spotted our dashcam & asked if it'd be a good idea for her to buy one, but I said that until she started driving at or under the speed limit it'd be a bad idea.

I on the other hand drive like a vicar, albeit keeping up with modern driving & not holding anyone up, so a dashcam might save me from a lot of hassle one day, 41yrs with 30 yrs frontline ambulance driving mixed in & no accidents (hope I've not just jinxed that lol).

 

[olley]

, 41yrs with 30 yrs frontline ambulance driving mixed in & no accidents

You were driving and ambulance at 11?

 

[Larrynwin]

It's not our job as members of the public to accept or reject dangerous driving, if what some driver does is unacceptable the police (if they catch them) will deal with it. we don't have a responsibility to police the roads.
We're in danger of turning into a self despising nation of snitches... Similar things happened under Pol Pot and NAZI Germany.

Very much depends on where you draw the line , if someone crosses continuous line to overtake you , or if someone knocks a cyclist off , both in front of you would you keep your video in both instances ?

 

[Richard n Ann]

Very much depends on where you draw the line , if someone crosses continuous line to overtake you , or if someone knocks a cyclist off , both in front of you would you keep your video in both instances ?

No I'd just keep the cyclist video. Someone crossing a solid white line is their decision, their risk, they know the consequences if something goes wrong. If no one is hurt it's not my business or duty to report them. And I hope no one would report me if I was in a massive hurry either.

 

[The Wino]

No I'd just keep the cyclist video. Someone crossing a solid white line is their decision, their risk, they know the consequences if something goes wrong. If no one is hurt it's not my business or duty to report them. And I hope no one would report me if I was in a massive hurry either.

I would if it was made simple to do and looked dangerous same as I would point out someone leaving a pub and getting in a car if there was a police car there and I'd just seen them boozing all night . If theres a solid white line its there for a reason you might think I'm being a snitch I would say its common sense and might save someones life. If you are in a massive hurry leave earlier or accept getting there late.

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[The Wino]

That was left out of the amendments to the road traffic regs several years ago... As advised to me by a legal eagle when I made a similar comment
It was omitted due to consideration of the congestion caused by CLOGs ( Centre Lane Owners Group members ! ) at the sme time it became an offence to sit in an outer lane for no apparent reason

It looks like your friend is partially correct the police guidance is that if traffic is moving in lanes and the nearside traffic is moving more quickly its ok to pass on the nearside but in other circumstances not the example given is a middle lane hogger its not ok just to pass on the nearside.

 

[SpeedyDux]

The drawback with the dashcam is that it records all your conversations while driving so I can imagine the trouble that will cause if the clip is ever to be used in evidence. The microphone on mine is way too sensitive!

Memo to self- I must moderate my comments about others' bad driving.

 

[buttons]

Problem with dash camers their video only shows what they see and perceive to be bad driving. I regularly see appalling examples of driving incompetence while their dash cam lets them remain totally unaware of their own misgivings. We have more than enough armature motorway marshals without giving them camera's.

 

[Richard n Ann]

I would if it was made simple to do and looked dangerous same as I would point out someone leaving a pub and getting in a car if there was a police car there and I'd just seen them boozing all night . If theres a solid white line its there for a reason you might think I'm being a snitch I would say its common sense and might save someones life. If you are in a massive hurry leave earlier or accept getting there late.

What about speeding? Or not indicating? It's a slippery slope once you start. I agree a drunk driver is fair game though. I personally wouldn't report them, maybe I'm morally wrong there.

 

[mitzimad]

rule 1 never grass

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[filopastry]

Rule 1 is OK to a point ... but ... imagine you are in a pub, you see chappie leave the pub drunk and get in his car but do nothing ... you find out when you follow ten minutes later he has had an accident, there is a lot of blood and mess. Please, justify that decision. If I see anyone I suspect may be intoxicated get in a vehicle I WILL without exception ring the police, grass ME definately YES and if in the previously mentioned accident one of yours was involved ... you would thank me.

 

[Ivory55]

rule 1 never grass

It’s a different world now. For better or worse ?

 

[Jaws]

It looks like your friend is partially correct the police guidance is that if traffic is moving in lanes and the nearside traffic is moving more quickly its ok to pass on the nearside but in other circumstances not the example given is a middle lane hogger its not ok just to pass on the nearside.

That is poice guidance, not the law.. Though of course it is damned good advice and common sense .
In the eyes of a police officer it would almost certainly be deemed without due care or similar
The LAW is it was no longer exists

 

[Jaws]

Rule 1 is OK to a point ... but ... imagine you are in a pub, you see chappie leave the pub drunk and get in his car but do nothing ... you find out when you follow ten minutes later he has had an accident, there is a lot of blood and mess. Please, justify that decision. If I see anyone I suspect may be intoxicated get in a vehicle I WILL without exception ring the police, grass ME definately YES and if in the previously mentioned accident one of yours was involved ... you would thank me.

Simple really.. have a word with the bloke your self.... If that does not work start screaming rape or robbery .. soon get some help !

 

[filopastry]

Simple really.. have a word with the bloke your self.... If that does not work start screaming rape or robbery .. soon get some help !

Ever tried to reason with an intoxicated person .... umpteen years running pubs teaches one that is like pushing water uphill with a fork ... and risky with it

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