Alde 3010 Blank Control Panel Solution/Fix (1 Viewer)

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For all the fellow mh'ers who find their Alde control panel blank and who are told they need a new PCB board (at a cost of £280)! Please read this thread and the cost of repair will be considerably less at £0.59p!

Last week whilst in Italy I woke up to find my control panel blank and no sign of life at all. If you google this problem many people are told to first check the 2 glass 20mm fuses which are under the inspection cover at the top of your boiler (F1 and F3) which are 3.15amp. They are in little green fuse holders. Most of the time you will find these fuses are perfect and not blown and you will be told you need a new PCB. NOT THE CASE.

More likely it will be fuse F2 (a 90 degree non resettable thermal fuse) which in Alde great wisdom decided to solder onto the PCB and not make it resettable. This fuse is directly below the right hand side glass fuse. Thermal fuses degrade over time so you will most likely come across this problem if your boiler is a few years old and a good income stream for Alde.

If you are a competent diy'er then you can replace this fuse by re-soldering a new thermal fuse onto the PCB. Unfortunatly I didn't have a replacement with me so as a temporary measure I removed the PCB which is an easy job:

First remove the grey cover by unscrewing the top retaining screw and 2 on the side and remove. You will now be able to see the PCB board which will look like this:
IMG_9375.JPG


Remove the brown, blue, black, red and grey wires from the left side, the three white connectors on the right side and the 3 black wires from the bottom relay. Make a note of where they go. Next undo a hex screw to the left of the PCB board but do not remove (fastens the heat sink to the casing) Now unclip the PCB board and remove. Now you can see the thermal fuse just below the white connector:
IMG_9774.JPG


Test the fuse by setting your multimeter to ohms and test for continuity and more than likely the fuse will have blown (no continuity). As a temporary measure if you do not have a thermal fuse just cut the fuse as close to the fuse as possible and leave the tail wires in place and using a wire with crocodile clips just join them together. Remember this is a TEMPORARY measure until you can replace with a thermal fuse:
IMG_9775.JPG


You can order the thermal fuses from here:
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Luckily I had a friend who was travelling my way so they brought the fuses for me.

IMG_9779.JPG


So when you have a replacement thermal fuse, remember that they are rated at 93 degrees centigrade therefore when soldering be very careful not to blow the fuse with the soldering iron. I placed crocodile clips onto the tails to dissipate the heat and soldered one end:
IMG_9776.JPG


Before soldering the other tail I tested the fuse to make sure it was ok. I then soldered the other tail:
IMG_9778.JPG


1 hour later and all is working.
IMG_9777.JPG

Hope this helps.
 
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I don't have Alde heating but I am very impressed with your analysis and fix.(y)(y)

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The 3020 model do have a resettable thermal fuse but arnt approved for Australia and USA.

Incidentally I've just come across a post by Alde in May 2016 regarding the 2 replaceable fuses in the green holders which is interesting:

"Hello there.

Alde 3010 and 3020 models should have F-type fuses fitted from the factory. This is the more sensitive type of fuse, and provides maximum protection while the boiler is installed.

If the fuse ever blows after installation, we recommend replacing with a T-type fuse (the less sensitive type) if you have the choice, but the only crucial point is that it's rated to 3 or 3.15 A."

So for those people who find the little glass fuses blown replace with T type fuses. If you take a look on the end of the fuse you will see it will either say F3.15A or T3.15A. F is a standard fuse and T are Time Delay or Slow Blow.
 

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For all the fellow mh'ers who find their Alde control panel blank and who are told they need a new PCB board (at a cost of £280)! Please read this thread and the cost of repair will be considerably less at £0.59p!

Last week whilst in Italy I woke up to find my control panel blank and no sign of life at all. If you google this problem many people are told to first check the 2 glass 20mm fuses which are under the inspection cover at the top of your boiler (F1 and F3) which are 3.15amp. They are in little green fuse holders. Most of the time you will find these fuses are perfect and not blown and you will be told you need a new PCB. NOT THE CASE.

More likely it will be fuse F2 (a 90 degree non resettable thermal fuse) which in Alde great wisdom decided to solder onto the PCB and not make it resettable. This fuse is directly below the right hand side glass fuse. Thermal fuses degrade over time so you will most likely come across this problem if your boiler is a few years old and a good income stream for Alde.

If you are a competent diy'er then you can replace this fuse by re-soldering a new thermal fuse onto the PCB. Unfortunatly I didn't have a replacement with me so as a temporary measure I removed the PCB which is an easy job:

First remove the grey cover by unscrewing the top retaining screw and 2 on the side and remove. You will now be able to see the PCB board which will look like this:
View attachment 167032

Remove the brown, blue, black, red and grey wires from the left side, the three white connectors on the right side and the 3 black wires from the bottom relay. Make a note of where they go. Next undo a hex screw to the left of the PCB board but do not remove (fastens the heat sink to the casing) Now unclip the PCB board and remove. Now you can see the thermal fuse just below the white connector:
View attachment 167041

Test the fuse by setting your multimeter to ohms and test for continuity and more than likely the fuse will have blown (no continuity). As a temporary measure if you do not have a thermal fuse just cut the fuse as close to the fuse as possible and leave the tail wires in place and using a wire with crocodile clips just join them together. Remember this is a TEMPORARY measure until you can replace with a thermal fuse:
View attachment 167043

You can order the thermal fuses from here:
-Broken Link Removed-

Luckily I had a friend who was travelling my way so they brought the fuses for me.

View attachment 167055

So when you have a replacement thermal fuse, remember that they are rated at 93 degrees centigrade therefore when soldering be very careful not to blow the fuse with the soldering iron. I placed crocodile clips onto the tails to dissipate the heat and soldered one end:
View attachment 167056

Before soldering the other tail I tested the fuse to make sure it was ok. I then soldered the other tail:
View attachment 167057

1 hour later and all is working.
View attachment 167058
Hope this helps.
 

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The 3020 model do have a resettable thermal fuse but arnt approved for Australia and USA.

Incidentally I've just come across a post by Alde in May 2016 regarding the 2 replaceable fuses in the green holders which is interesting:

"Hello there.

Alde 3010 and 3020 models should have F-type fuses fitted from the factory. This is the more sensitive type of fuse, and provides maximum protection while the boiler is installed.

If the fuse ever blows after installation, we recommend replacing with a T-type fuse (the less sensitive type) if you have the choice, but the only crucial point is that it's rated to 3 or 3.15 A."

So for those people who find the little glass fuses blown replace with T type fuses. If you take a look on the end of the fuse you will see it will either say F3.15A or T3.15A. F is a standard fuse and T are Time Delay or Slow Blow.
Useful info thanks. When you say resettable, how?

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Brilliantly helpful thread thank you. Just had a look at the access to my boiler and sadly it is so difficult I cannot imagine being able to even change a fuse :(.
 
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Brilliantly helpful thread thank you. Just had a look at the access to my boiler and sadly it is so difficult I cannot imagine being able to even change a fuse :(.
Sadly many manufacturers seem to now build the furniture around major components instead of the other way round so the only solution is to dismantle some of said furniture to access which isn't as bad as it seems. Luckily access to my boiler is in the garage and easy.

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A brilliant analysis and thanks.I feel a right numpty asking but where is the PCB you show typically located in the Moho?
 

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@dpsuk999 Thanks for a great post. I found my panel dead yesterday at 5pm while fitting some USB sockets.
After testing all supplies in case I had disturbed something I checked both the boiler feed and the 2 fuses in the green holders to find all ok.
Google found your post so I bridged the thermal fuse to prove.
It took longer to collect the replacement from Maplins than complete the repair.
All fitted and working again. (y)

The bad news for anyone else needing to do this is that the parts price is 60% more :(
99p.....never mind, I am still at least £236.61richer today thanks to dpsuk999 :D
 

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Thank you or this step by step instructions you have just saved me £300 as technical support at alde said i need a new board.

Is it me or what
Someone says thanks you saved me £300 but cant spend £15 on membership.

Just a question

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@dpsuk999,
Thnx for the information, here the same problem and solved due to your post.
Is it possible to replace this thermal fuse with a resettable one? (like the Alde 3020)
Does anybody know the spec's of the fuse on the Alde 3020??
 
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@dpsuk999,
Thnx for the information, here the same problem and solved due to your post.
Is it possible to replace this thermal fuse with a resettable one? (like the Alde 3020)
Does anybody know the spec's of the fuse on the Alde 3020??
Yes, I’ll post a pic when the rain stops(y)

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I know this is getting to be an old thread but it’s still relevant as I think the one in my van has gone, Wint strip it down till I get home as I’m on the Mosel, but can you tell me please the best way of connecting the Techna T16 10amp to the PCB as it has faston terminals and is it acceptable to put two long wires on the terminals so you can make it more accessible outside of the cover. Any ideas for best and easiest fix really, thanks
Simon
 
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You can simply de-solder the existing thermal fuse (which I did) and solder two lengths of wire terminating in space connectors and then fit the thermal breaker in the cover which you removed to gain access to the pcb board initially. Make sure you make the tails long enough for you to still lift the cover to pull the spade connectors off the thermal fuse if you need to gain access to the internal gubbings in the future.

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You can simply de-solder the existing thermal fuse (which I did) and solder two lengths of wire terminating in space connectors and then fit the thermal breaker in the cover which you removed to gain access to the pcb board initially. Make sure you make the tails long enough for you to still lift the cover to pull the spade connectors off the thermal fuse if you need to gain access to the internal gubbings in the future.
Thanks for that, I’m assuming the type and length of wire is not too critical?
 
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No, just long enough to be able to still remove your cover.
 

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Thank you for saving me a lot of money. Your fix worked like a treat !!!!

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Fixed mine today well done @dpsuk999 I actually did it without removing the PCB cut the old fuse out and put reusable spring connectors on the ends that were sticking out. With a wire to a spade terminal on to the resettable fuse which I added. Might not last so we’ll see, will take PCB out if necessary, but hey it’s working.(y)
 

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Btw does it matter which way round line and load is connected on the fuse?
 

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