Euro Tunnel- Pet Travel Scheme Update -if there is a ‘no deal’ Brexit. (1 Viewer)

[scotjimland]

By email today..

As a customer who has previously travelled on Eurotunnel with your pet, we wanted to make you aware of DEFRA’s update on the Pet Travel Scheme if there is a ‘no deal’ Brexit.

DEFRA have today announced their recommendation that pet owners planning to travel immediately after 29th March 2019 contact their vet at least four months in advance of travel to check what they need to do.

For example, if you are travelling on 30th March 2019 the recommendation is that you visit your vet as soon as possible, and before the end of November 2018 at the latest.

DEFRA have advised that you will still be able to travel with your pet to Europe after Britain leaves the EU, however you may need to take some additional steps to allow your pet/s to travel in a ‘no deal’ scenario.

Stay up to date with the latest advice by visiting www.gov.uk and searching "pet travel". Updates will also be available at eurotunnel.com.

 

[LesW]

I got the same email, it's a bit vague isn't it?

What would a visit to the vet do?

Would they have advanced information about what to do

 

[bellabee]

Yes, I've received that, too. Just phoning the vet to arrange the titre test.

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[Minxy]

Ah, so it would appear that the reason for the visit to the vet is to get the blood test done to check the effectiveness of the rabies vaccination your dog has already had, allowing time for it to be re-vaccinated if the result isn't sufficient. This is similar to the requirement for non-EU countries already:

https://www.gov.uk/take-pet-abroad/rabies-vaccination-boosters-and-blood-tests

Unlisted countries
You must follow certain rules after having your pet vaccinated if you’re travelling to the UK from an unlisted country:

1. Your pet must have a blood sample taken at least 30 days after the rabies vaccination.
   
   
2. Your vet must send the blood sample to an from either inside the EU or outside the EU.
   
   
3. The results of the blood test must show that the vaccination was successful (rabies antibody level of at least 0.5 IU/ml).
   
   
4. You must wait 3 months from the date the blood sample was taken before you travel - you do not need to wait if your pet was vaccinated, blood tested and given a pet passport in the EU before travelling to an unlisted country.
   
   
5. The vet must give you a copy of the test results and enter the day the blood sample was taken in a third-country official veterinary certificate.
   

 

[Ridgeway]

Back to the way it was at the beginning for those that remember. At first you could only use 1 specified lab in the UK for the tests, then you could use one in Sweden for those overseas and then it was relaxed so no check was required, only the safety period of injection plus 30 days before travel

 

[Stacetop]

Our vet is unsure and very little guidance has been given to them. She is suggesting that the blood test may be needed and yes we could be in the position to require that by the end of this month into beginning of December! Arghh

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[DBK]

I got the same email, it's a bit vague isn't it?

What would a visit to the vet do?

Would they have advanced information about what to do

If the dog hasn't had a rabies vaccination before then the timescale is indeed 4 months. It starts with the vaccination then you have to wait 3 months before a blood test is taken to check the vaccination has worked. One month later and with a fit to travel certificate from the vet you can travel.

The above arrangements are the existing rules for dogs entering the EU from "Third countries". The unknown is how dogs travelling from the UK will be treated after B day if no deal is agreed. Hopefully common sense will prevail.

 

[Ridgeway]

Last time we did ours it wasn't cheap, think it was £150 per test although that was 15yrs ago when there was only a couple of labs approved, hopefully it's cheaper now.

 

[Stacetop]

Yes it’s cheaper now apparently £120!

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[The Dudess]

I'm confused. My dog has a pet passport which was issued earlier this year in Portugal. He had his rabies booster 2 weeks ago in the UK because we are leaving tomorrow to tour Spain until end of this year. We are again leaving the UK on 26th March 2019 to travel to Greece. What should I be doing?

 

[gus-lopez]

The unknown is how dogs travelling from the UK will be treated after B day if no deal is agreed. Hopefully common sense will prevail.

& the other unknown ,how will dogs from the EU entering the Uk be treated ?

 

[bellabee]

Yes it’s cheaper now apparently £120!

Indeed! What a nice little bonus for vets!

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[gus-lopez]

I'm confused. My dog has a pet passport which was issued earlier this year in Portugal. He had his rabies booster 2 weeks ago in the UK because we are leaving tomorrow to tour Spain until end of this year. We are again leaving the UK on 26th March 2019 to travel to Greece. What should I be doing?

Does he have a Portugese passport & is the chip registered there as then he isn't a UK dog.Just like mine isn't
Anyway you are going before it will change .

 

[bellabee]

@The Dudess That's a difficult one. I don't know what to say. I'm thinking that, maybe you should get it done asap in Spain. You should be OK as long as your dog tests positive for the antibodies. Otherwise, you'll probably be best to get him re-inoculated in Spain.
I don't think you can risk leaving it until you get back from Spain, in case he needs to be re-done.
Maybe @DBK has a view?

 

[gus-lopez]

@The Dudess That's a difficult one. I don't know what to say. I'm thinking that, maybe you should get it done asap in Spain. You should be OK as long as your dog tests positive for the antibodies. Otherwise, you'll probably be best to get him re-inoculated in Spain.
I don't think you can risk leaving it until you get back from Spain, in case he needs to be re-done.
Maybe @DBK has a view?

& this is where it all degenerates into a shambles. Why is the dog, assuming he has a Portugese passport & chip which isn't UK registered , coming under UK requirements just because the owners are from the UK ?
This is what I am afraid of if there isn't a deal that if I come to the UK next summer with the dog I will be assumed to be Uk even though I am a registered spanish permanent resident & they will be trying to stop my dog leaving when he doesn't come under there requirements as he is spanish.

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[Ridgeway]

Indeed! What a nice little bonus for vets!

Vets won't be authorised to do this, it's approved labs that do (and that's not intelligent Labradors)

 

[Ridgeway]

& this is where it all degenerates into a shambles. Why is the dog, assuming he has a Portugese passport & chip which isn't UK registered , coming under UK requirements just because the owners are from the UK ?
This is what I am afraid of if there isn't a deal that if I come to the UK next summer with the dog I will be assumed to be Uk even though I am a registered spanish permanent resident & they will be trying to stop my dog leaving when he doesn't come under there requirements as he is spanish.

I don't see it like that. To me it's simply that the UK may (quite likely) go BACK to the original scheme which required ALL travellers (UK and any others) to have the blood test for a qualifying animal (Cat, Dog and Ferret).

 

[dabhand]

I read it as no change if your dog is up to date with pet passport titre etc, am I wrong?

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[rb62]

& the other unknown ,how will dogs from the EU entering the Uk be treated ?

It's all here.....looks like your pet has to have a health certificate as well before you travel,valid for 4 months

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/pet-travel-to-europe-after-brexit

 

[bellabee]

I read it as no change if your dog is up to date with pet passport titre etc, am I wrong?

I think it's the titre test which is crucial . If your dog's already had one, as far as I understand, you should be OK.

 

[keithchesterfield2]

Oh no, this is a disaster.

Does this mean we will have to remain with our pets in foreign parts until they can legally be brought home ?

Day after day marooned on free Aires, forced to forage for baguettes in the local boulangerie, slake our thirst on cheap village wine, while away our time overlooking rivers, rural or beach side stops, bemoan the warm days that envelop us and forced away from the madding crowd and problems at home for possibly weeks or even months ?

We're doomed, doomed I tell you ….......

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[bellabee]

Just to add to the above, it looks as though you'd still need to take your dog to the Official Veterinarian no more than 10 days before you travel, in order to get a health certificate.

I also found the following extract disturbing:
'If there’s no deal, pet passports issued in the UK would not be valid for travel to the EU.'

I can't get my head round what the implications of that would be, if you were already in the EU (or in eg Morocco) on 29th March.

 

[keithchesterfield2]

bellabee - you don't need a Pet Passport to go to the EU - you only need it to get back into the UK .........

 

[bellabee]

bellabee - you don't need a Pet Passport to go to the EU - you only need it to get back into the UK .........

Yes, but we're going to Morocco
ie, wanting to travel to the EU from a third country.

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[keithchesterfield2]

BREAKING NEWS =

 

[dabhand]

Yes, but we're going to Morocco
ie, wanting to travel to the EU from a third country.

Then your going to Spain and they don’t seem to give a sh*t!

 

[rb62]

Just to add to the above, it looks as though you'd still need to take your dog to the Official Veterinarian no more than 10 days before you travel, in order to get a health certificate.
I also found the following extract disturbing:
'If there’s no deal, pet passports issued in the UK would not be valid for travel to the EU.'
I can't get my head round what the implications of that would be, if you were already in the EU (or in eg Morocco) on 29th March.

From what I can make of it ,if no deal,to get back into UK you would need ...blood test result and your passport which would have your health check and wormer in it.....but I could be wrong

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[TerryL]

To me the UKGov web page was quite clear. In the event they cannot get an agreement with the EU you will need to go through the rabies exercise, which I would guess most have done anyway. But if not it can take up to 3 months to sort. The only other difference is we will need to get a Health Certificate from a UK vet up to 10 days before travelling, which lasts for 4 months. No info about longer absences though. Regulations for return to the UK are unchanged.

I would repeat, this is in the event the UK cannot get an agreement with EU, which they say is being worked on but very unlikely.

 

[Candapack]

If the dog hasn't had a rabies vaccination before then the timescale is indeed 4 months. It starts with the vaccination then you have to wait 3 months before a blood test is taken to check the vaccination has worked. One month later and with a fit to travel certificate from the vet you can travel.

The above arrangements are the existing rules for dogs entering the EU from "Third countries". The unknown is how dogs travelling from the UK will be treated after B day if no deal is agreed. Hopefully common sense will prevail.

I am assured by an unimpeachable source - my wife, who has been steeped in all things Brexit for 2 years now, I never heard her swear before - that UK automatically becomes a third country if there is no deal. The Gov.UK website refers to the possibility of "the UK not being granted third country status", which my wife says is "total pi*h".
So I think the existing rules for third countries will apply to us, unless there is a deal, any deal, which will then kick the can down the road for another couple of years.

 

[gus-lopez]

I don't see it like that. To me it's simply that the UK may (quite likely) go BACK to the original scheme which required ALL travellers (UK and any others) to have the blood test for a qualifying animal (Cat, Dog and Ferret).

What to get in ?

It's all here.....looks like your pet has to have a health certificate as well before you travel,valid for 4 months

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/pet-travel-to-europe-after-brexit

But he wouldn't be travelling out of the Uk but returning from whence he came, Spain. I wasn't worried about getting IN to the UK as he isn't a UK dog so wouldn't need what a UK dog requires that is returning to the UK ,needed to actually enter the EU. Mine doesn't need/wouldn't require any of that as he is here already & has a valid Spanish passport.

In the event of a no deal I'd be more concerned that By entering the UK he would now be classed as "entering an unlisted country" by France & Spain ?
Anyway no 4;
"You must wait 3 months from the date the blood sample was taken before you travel - you do not need to wait if your pet was vaccinated, blood tested and given a pet passport in the EU before travelling to an unlisted country. "
Would suggest that as he is spanish & all vaccinations, tests, chip & pet passport were done in spain, an EU country, he wouldn't have any bother as he would be allowed INTO the UK so should have no trouble getting out.

'If there’s no deal, pet passports issued in the UK would not be valid for travel to the EU.'

Which wouldn't affect mine as his is spanish .

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