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I'm thinking of getting a scooter. I'd like to be able to take a passenger on the back. What are my engine size options (or restrictions)?
 

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Itsmcb said:
I'm thinking of getting a scooter. I'd like to be able to take a passenger on the back. What are my engine size options (or restrictions)?
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Do you have A or A1 on your licence?
 
There's a photo of my licence on the post 🙂
 
There's been so many changes to motor cycle learner laws. But as I remember new bikers with a full car license can ride a 125cc/ 12.5hp with L plates. No passenger. You must also take your CBT within 2 year's.
 
50cc limited to 31mph (by maximum power or limiter), unless you take a test.

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You can ride upto 125 cc. That is provided you take CBT . This then lasts for two years during which time you need to display L plates you can then either take the CBT again or take your test on your 125 or other bike up-to 33kw or take the direct access (which is on a bike over 33kw) test. Which entitles you to ride any bike. Until you take and pass one of the tests you cannot carry a passenger. As far as I’m aware there are now four modules to the bike test. These are the hazard perception, the other computer based one (can’t remember what it’s called) CBT and then finally the on road driving test.
 
tonyidle said:
............... and no passenger.
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Nope, entitlement is full with passenger. He has full category 'P', not provisional, as would be expected for a 'B' category test pass before 19 January 2013. If it was only capable of less than 28mph, it would come under category AM, which he also possesses in full. There is no requirement for further CBT, theory or practical tests.
 
cmcardle75 said:
Nope, entitlement is full with passenger. He has full category 'P', not provisional, as would be expected for a 'B' category test pass before 19 January 2013. If it was only capable of less than 28mph, it would come under category AM, which he also possesses in full. There is no requirement for further CBT, theory or practical tests.
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BTW, if you're not used to riding motorcycles of any sort, I'd strongly recommend the CBT course anyway, even though it is not legally a requirement. It is an excellent course if done well, and will, frankly, stop you killing yourself.
 
So my only option is a 50cc / 30mph unless I take a full test?. Maybe I should look at one of those 3 wheel scooters with the twin front wheels?

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Itsmcb said:
So my only option is a 50cc / 30mph unless I take a full test?. Maybe I should look at one of those 3 wheel scooters with the twin front wheels?
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You can but if the wheel centres at the front are less than 450mm apart you will need a bike licence. If greater than 450mm I think you can ride it on a car licence. In all honesty I would, as has been suggested take some training. At a minimum CBT.
 
cmcardle75 said:
BTW, if you're not used to riding motorcycles of any sort, I'd strongly recommend the CBT course anyway, even though it is not legally a requirement. It is an excellent course if done well, and will, frankly, stop you killing yourself.
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I have had bikes in the past although nothing bigger than a 125 trials. I did the course when I bought my first one, a Honda 50, quite a long time ago.
 
Same categories as mine so you can ride any bike you like.

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The fact you can ride a 50cc bike with a pillion passenger on an old license needs to be changed. Everyone who rides should have some formal training , it is essentially. Not only will you be safer but you will adjust your vehicle driving style . When I did my full motorcycle training and test it was the single most informative road training I have ever done and I would recommend this as an essential investment
 
Looking at that photo of your license you passed your full motorcycle test in 2013. It’s got same categories as mine and I have full bike license so in other words you can go out and buy a fire blade if you want to.
 
Gus is right, it's restricted to tricycle. That class first came out in 2013 so that explains the date 👍

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cmcardle75 said:
Nope, entitlement is full with passenger. He has full category 'P', not provisional, as would be expected for a 'B' category test pass before 19 January 2013. If it was only capable of less than 28mph, it would come under category AM, which he also possesses in full. There is no requirement for further CBT, theory or practical tests.
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I'm well out of date on this. At one time the moped category excluded passengers whether the rider was fully licenced or not.
 
You have A but have 79 (3) - restricted to tricycles on it so you have not passed a motorcycle test. You should have A with no code next to it So you can ride up to 125 cc with L plates

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The Ex-Gasman said:
This shows how complicated the government manage to make everything
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couldn't agree more. They did the same with towing regs.
They manage to do it everywhere.
Try explaining to a spanish official that there are 3 types of crb check in the UK. They look at you as though you are mad?
 
Some good advice on this thread regarding getting training - worth every penny (especially on today's busy roads)

If you are riding on a provisional licence (displaying L plates) then you are not licensed to ride outside of the the UK and that exclusion extends to the Isle of Man

You are also not allowed to carry a passenger
 
Stealaway said:
There's been so many changes to motor cycle learner laws. But as I remember new bikers with a full car license can ride a 125cc/ 12.5hp with L plates. No passenger. You must also take your CBT within 2 year's.
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Must take CBT before riding unaccompanied and then renew every two years unless you take a test.
 
Thanks everyone for your advice. I've done some extra research as well and I THINK! I can ride a 50cc /30mph moped with a passenger (no L Plates). This would be slow and difficult to keep up with traffic two up so too dangerous in my opinion. OR a trike scooter of any size (as long as the wheels are of a certain distance apart). The smallest is a 125cc. Looks like it would do the job but is heavy so would probably need a trailer. OR take the full motorbike training and test then the world is my oyster 🙂
Have I summed it up correctly?
 
oops missed the 79 3 part, it was early this morning I read it.

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