Unknown dashboard warning light

[Oldgustaf]

Anyone know what this light means (red water tank with fan). It's on the instrument panel but I cannot find it in the Ducato handbook.

 

[Silver-Fox]

Isn’t that telling you to fill your hot water bottle as the weather is cold tonight ?

Other than that no idea sorry

 

[old-mo]

I would hazard a guess.... Low radiator water warning...

But then again I am usually wrong..

 

[pappajohn]

The obvious one would be low coolant level..... But that may be too obvious.
Doesn't mean its overheating but the expansion bottle may be low.

 

[Oldgustaf]

The obvious one would be low coolant level..... But that may be too obvious.
Doesn't mean its overheating but the expansion bottle may be low.

But it's not in the Fiat Ducato handbook. I think I'd better head over to the Dethleffs forum...

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[Mikeco]

If it’s an Autotrail then it’s telling you to turn the propeller on.

 

[pappajohn]

But it's not in the Fiat Ducato handbook. I think I'd better head over to the Dethleffs forum...

Definately not Dethlefs, they can't add lights to the dash cluster no matter how good they are.
It's 100% Fiat.
You need a Fiat Professional garage if anything.... Or you could top up the bottle and see if it goes out.

 

[Euphony]

Just found the following on a Google search...
It could potentially be a faulty temperature sensor if the engine isn’t over-heating.

“X250 Ducatos do not have a ‘fan warning light’, though there is a red “Hot Engine Coolant” light that should illuminate briefly when the vehicle’s ignition is switched on and should illuminate when the vehicle is being driven if the engine overheats. Current-model (X290) Ducatos have a “Engine Coolant Temperature Too High” light with an accompanying ‘temperature' symbol. The Owner Handbook advises that this should illuminate briefly when the vehicle’s ignition is switched on and should illuminate when the vehicle is being driven if the engine overheats, adding that a warning message should also appear on the instrument-panel’s display screen.”

 

[Oldgustaf]

Definately not Dethlefs, they can't add lights to the dash cluster no matter how good they are.
It's 100% Fiat.
You need a Fiat Professional garage if anything.

Strange it's not in the handbook...

 

[Oldgustaf]

Just found the following on a Google search...

“X250 Ducatos do not have a ‘fan warning light’, though there is a red “Hot Engine Coolant” light that should illuminate briefly when the vehicle’s ignition is switched on and should illuminate when the vehicle is being driven if the engine overheats. Current-model (X290) Ducatos have a “Engine Coolant Temperature Too High” light with an accompanying ‘temperature' symbol. The Owner Handbook advises that this should illuminate briefly when the vehicle’s ignition is switched on and should illuminate when the vehicle is being driven if the engine overheats, adding that a warning message should also appear on the instrument-panel’s display screen.”

Thank you, that's very helpful. The warning light has a dull glow - not bright like all the others and it is 'spurious' in as much that there is no mention of it in the Fiat Ducato handbook. I've just had the cam belt changed by local garage - it's come back with the bloody light on and a strange 'buzzing' sound from the top of the dashboard. I'm wondering whether the garage has done something.

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[pappajohn]

A bit blurred but shown here (center between clocks) for the 2005 244 version.

 

[Oldgustaf]

That's the one but what is it. Our's is 2011 model.

 

[Oldgustaf]

A bit blurred but shown here for the 2005 244 version.

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That's the one but what is it. Our's is 2011 model.

 

[pappajohn]

As said earlier, either low water or overheating.
Could also be your instrument panel is starting to fail. Usually get some warning lights glowing faintly.

 

[Euphony]

Thank you, that's very helpful. The warning light has a dull glow - not bright like all the others and it is 'spurious' in as much that there is no mention of it in the Fiat Ducato handbook. I've just had the cam belt changed by local garage - it's come back with the bloody light on and a strange 'buzzing' sound from the top of the dashboard. I'm wondering whether the garage has done something.

As you said that “ The warning light has a dull glow....” There was another forum post about “phantom glow” that went on to say that it was a known dashboard problem and required cluster replacement.

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[Oldgustaf]

With your help, have just found this (see screen shot) in earlier Ducato handbook online. Just going to check coolant level now. But... this warning light is a very dull red, not bright like the others - and not mentioned in the handbook, so wonder whether it has something to do with the earth leak mentioned above.

 

[Oldgustaf]

Have just been out to check coolant level - and as I thought, it's spot on where it should be. I'm now wondering whether the buzzing sound from the dashboard, the dim red coolant warning light - and the occasional starting problem (turn key in ignition - but just clicks rather than turns the starter motor) are all related to the 'earth connection failure' mentioned above.

 

[Oldgustaf]

Have just been out to check coolant level - and as I thought, it's spot on where it should be. I'm now wondering whether the buzzing sound from the dashboard, the dim red coolant warning light - and the occasional starting problem (turn key in ignition - but just clicks rather than turns the starter motor) are all related to the 'earth connection failure' mentioned above.

An update for anyone with a Ducato based MH...

The phantom coolant light seems to have gone away for now at least. I phoned Cartronix, who were very helpful and who said phantom instrument panel lights on Ducatos are very common problem.

The buzzing from the centre of the dashboard was cured by replacing the EGR control valve (something to do with emissions). A Fiat EGR control valve is not cheap.

The intermittent starting problem (turn the key, nothing happens) was traced to a faulty starter motor. This has also been replaced.

All done under warranty at our local garage in west Wales - and I have to say that Webbs of Reading, where we purchased the Dethleffs, have been great and okayed the warranty work no problem.

 

[Oldgustaf]

Sadly, the new, 150 quid EGR control valve is buzzing again. Anyone know how can be cured?