UK Campsites.. A Personal View (1 Viewer)

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The pandemic has increased the number of staycationers, with a raft of new campers, caravaners and motorhomers. It remains to be seen if many of them will want to repeat the experience in future times. What is clear to most experienced travellers is that there is a significant difference in satisfaction and camping enjoyment between campsites in the Uk when compared to those in Europe.
After ten years of taking our Motorhome to continental Europe for extended periods outside of the peak season, usually 10 or 12 weeks ar a time, we have just spent our first extended Motorhome break in Wales.
We found that there are so many opportunities for Uk campsites to improve which would increase the chances of retention of future holidaymakers.

Most campsites abroad have ample capacity out of the high season to allow us to turn up without pre booking, and accept payment at departure, rather than here where pre-booking and payment up front appears essential. We much prefer the flexibility to arrive without pre-booking and to stay according to how long we are enjoying the site instead of the advance booking.

Some of the campsites here suffered limited or no phone signal, so internet access has been restricted. Uk campsites often then offer WiFi at a cost. Many campsites abroad offer free WiFi

The condition of the washing and toilet facilities is another factor. Some campsites in France have traditional squatting toilets or have missing toilet seats. On arrival at a campsite we checkout the facilities...toilet seats, toilet paper, cleanliness, hot water, shower function. Our experiences here in the Uk is to check off all of these, although all too often the toilet blocks are often grey, cold, draughty and not particularly inviting places.

Dish wash up areas are usually outside, often covered to keep off any rain. Outside is ok in warm climates, but we appreciated those indoors here when the weather was inclement.

Campsites here usually assign a designated pitch, probably to help them plan for fair allocation of pre-bookings. We prefer driving around a site abroad and selecting a sunny or shady pitch, often far away from other occupied pitches.

We have learned to buy our bread at the supermarket before arriving at Uk campsites which rarely have a shop onsite or nearby, so how we enjoy wandering down to reception on continental campsites to buy fresh baguette and croissants, ordered the previous day.

Many campsites abroad have an on-site open air bar with really good coffee in the morning and a enjoyable meeting place with great atmosphere in the evenings. Admittedly the beers abroad are not to my taste, but in the warmer climates there I can enjoy some good wine. I understand that the weather here is rarely suitable for an outside bar except for a very short season in the high season.

Cost is certainly another issue. Using an ACSI card out of season on thousands of campsites abroad, enables a low cost vacation, where good size pitches and facilities are available with showers, pet dogs and WiFi for an inclusive cost often less than £20. Some sites abroad have other welcome features including swimming pools, and often are located conveniently close to villages / towns offering bars, restaurants and other entertaining nightlife
The cost of ferries and the longer distances involved can offset the lower campsite costs abroad on longer breaks, but then the weather there is so often worth the extra time and inconvenience in travelling.
We rarely use toll roads, enjoy the countryside and mostly empty roads which enable us to visit some interesting smaller towns each with their own charm. Sometimes we happen across a small market where we can buy local cheese, fish, fresh vegetables and other local provisions

So with all these points tipping the balance to make us want to take our holidays abroad, surely the Uk campsites would want to make holidays here more attractive. Yet so many appear to have few vacancies, and with the high fees charged are obviously surviving well.
There are lovely areas and places of interest in the Uk which are wonderful to visit. I wonder what those overseas travellers have thought of our campsites when they have ventured here, but I suspect the campsites here will have tarnished the experiences of many and deterred many from returning here to holiday. No doubt the word has spread around and others have shied away from coming here for a first time.

I fully recognise that we all have different ideas of what type of campsite suits our needs. Some like rustic rural farm sites, others prefer the somewhat regimented and heavily “rule bound” Caravan and Motorhome Club sites, while some want larger sites with bar / entertainment and fast food outlets.

Taking all my comments above, I hope there is a genuine opportunity for campsite owners and managers to find ways to make the necessary improvements that we would all appreciate.

I wrote this at the end of a three week break in Wales, and at last I have come onto a Campsite which has addressed pretty much all my concerns. Nicholaston Farm on the Gower, is located in a beautiful setting beside a wonderful beach and terrific dog walking tracks thru forest and dunes. Good size pitches are not pre allocated, so we chose a pitch in a quiet corner with the hedges creating a useful windbreak. Washrooms, toilets, showers, indoor wash up, laundry are all spotless, modern and bright. Free WiFi, and the on-site shop has fresh bread and croissants every morning, with coffee and snacks available through the day. The site is very popular, so advance booking may well be necessary, but I wish we had only booked/paid for one or two nights and then asked for an extension if we so wanted, and space was still available.

I hope that my views are not just considered a long moan, but maybe other motorhomers have similar or divergent views, so I would love to see the response. It would be good to hear what campsite owners/managers make of these comments, and whether any decide to take positive actions
 
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I pretty much agree and recognize most of what you have highlighted.My view is that so many are living in the past providing a place to park or pitch and basic facilities. They have little competition so have no need to provide more added to which the rules are set to suit themselves with no or little consideration to the very people to whom they serve which is a client that is on the move that very much need to have freedom of movement as to when they arrive or leave.
The large clubs enjoy a monopoly and wish to keep it that way. Many sites have in excess of 2/3/400 people staying and yet not even a simple Coffee Shop is provided it’s almost as though socialising is band.
 

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I don't think they will ever improve ...but i think they will gradually get worse. Many charged the same or higher fees the last 18 months with less facilities than they did before ...captive clientele means take advantage in the uk .

I will bet theres very few if any motorhomers in europe that travel to the uk more than once

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I don't think they will ever improve ...but i think they will gradually get worse. Many charged the same or higher fees the last 18 months with less facilities than they did before ...captive clientele means take advantage in the uk .

I will bet theres very few if any motorhomers in europe that travel to the uk more than once
There's many a thousand that havnt been at all, we have met quite a few french motorhomes and never met one that had been to England.
 
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Nicholson farm, I agree that the toilet block is as it should be and they do have a coffee shop but £50 a night during the summer. Nothing else around for miles and a long steep walk down to the beach. Depends what you like I suppose 🤷

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We stay on campsites in the UK, France and Spain and the experience you get in each country is different. For example, in the UK we love the CL sites we stay on, particularly the quiet ones without EHU. This year we've paid under £10 for several sites that have been brilliant. If you enjoy peace and quiet, solitude and nature, then you can't beat some of our CL sites.

Less frequently, we use the C&MHC Club sites. These sites are much more expensive but you could say that you get what you pay for. My experience is that you know exactly what you're going to get in terms of pitches, cleanliness, layout and facilities. I've never been on a club site where the facilities haven't been spotless. We use their laundry facilities and enjoy long hot showers on these sites. The sites are also pretty quiet, especially in the evening and at night.

Our experience of French campsites isn't so great, especially in terms of the facilities and the cleanliness. Over the years, many French sites have deteriorated and I believe the explanation may be the increase of the French Aires. We do use the Aires and on the whole have been pretty satisfied with them.

Spanish campsites tend to have cleaner, better facilities but there are downsides. For example, the pitches tend to be closer together and they are undoubtedly much more noisy.

For us, the major advantage of touring France and Spain is the weather. It is definitely not the campsites. Overall, I would say that camping here or abroad is different, and neither are necessarily better or worse.
 

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I think a difference may be that the UK campsite owners are mainly only interested in making money; whereas a lot of the European campsites are family run businesses who want their guests to enjoy the experience/ their country- and boost the local economy not just their own purses.
The bread in French campsites is in my experience provided by either a travelling baker as there are many who deliver fresh bread to rural places daily ; or baked on site by a local franchise- supporting the local economy as do the supermarkets that sell local produce.
Expectations of good service are higher and this produces a cycle of returning campers to the area or the country who know what to expect on arrival.
It is very hit n miss in the UK - very expensive for what is provided on site and often nothing else in the way of information about nearby attractions or infrastructure ie buses.... Often Uk Campsites remind me of the old days of sea side landladies who wouldnt let you into the property at certain hours and had so many rules it was impossible to relax...

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There's many a thousand that havnt been at all, we have met quite a few french motorhomes and never met one that had been to England.


We always see a lot of French and German motorhome tourists, rarely do they book, they just rock up and ask. Speaking to them about how they found us and where they stay it seems they really enjoy our CL network, rather than apps it seems most of them find CL's on Google Maps and read the reviews there.
 
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I tend to agree with the OP since for the past 15 years all my touring has been abroad, although since the start of the pandemic I have had 2 x one week trips in the U.K. but they haven't whetted my appetite to do more. In a nutshell I simply prefer the experience of being 'abroad'. Living just 20 miles from the Newhaven ferry port helps.

There's many a thousand that havnt been at all, we have met quite a few french motorhomes and never met one that had been to England.
I've also found that. Perhaps my experience is unusual but I've seen very few foreign motorhomes or caravans on the U.K. sites but when 'over there' there's been a substantial percentage of visiting foreigners. Maybe the need to cross the Channel puts them off?
 
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Why do we get jobsworths in Britain telling us where to park and how to park?

They can't argue it's necessary because it's not on every site and it never happens in France and Spain. That's really the only thing I don't like about British sites (apart from the weather of course)

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We haven't yet ventured abroad but looking forward to maybe France year.
We are members of CCC but we very rarely use them as there are too many rules and regulations!
The best camsites we have found in the UK have been privately owned and either found by using Pitchup or Trip Advsor.
We use Trip Advisor just to double check that there are things nearby that we would like such as decent dog walks pubs etc.
The private sites that we have found normally seem to put in more effort in terms of keeping their customers happy! Its their business so it makes sense that they would want people to return and spread the word! (y)
 

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We are members of CCC but we very rarely use them as there are too many rules and regulations!
What rules & regulations?
The only one, and I mean the only one I've ever come across is park to the peg - which is eminently sensible to ensure safe 6m spacing.
Even MHF rallies subscribe to that.
 

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We are in week 5 of a 6 week tour taking in Wales, Scotland and now England. We are using CMC sites exclusively apart from two nights we spent on a C&CC site. The CMC site we are on now has no toilet block but it has spacious hard standing pitches (essential in this weather!) and EHU and costs just under £17 a night for two people. I am not aware of any regimentation or excessive number of rules. If you can park next to a peg after choosing your pitch (unlike the C&CC who decide where you go) then you will be fine. I don't consider them expensive. We toured in Corsica and often paid considerably more for sites with mediocre facilities than we have in the UK. Switzerland was stunning but ouch! went my wallet. :) Of course you can get cheaper sites elsewhere but we've been on some stinkers and some rubbish aires too.

We tour to visit places and are happy to pay whatever is the local going rate.

We'll be back over the Channel next year but only for what there is to see or do there not because it can be cheaper. We will also tour again in the UK if only because we will have 90 days next summer to find something to do. :)

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What rules & regulations?
The only one, and I mean the only one I've ever come across is park to the peg - which is eminently sensible to ensure safe 6m spacing.
Even MHF rallies subscribe to that

What rules & regulations?
The only one, and I mean the only one I've ever come across is park to the peg - which is eminently sensible to ensure safe 6m spacing.
Even MHF rallies subscribe to that

What rules & regulations?
The only one, and I mean the only one I've ever come across is park to the peg - which is eminently sensible to ensure safe 6m spacing.
Even MHF rallies subscribe to that.
"Feels more regimented" Is probably a better description! I just think that the privately owned sites have been better for us!
 

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"Feels more regimented" Is probably a better description! I just think that the privately owned sites have been better for us!
Obviously I respect your opinions but just don't recognise either the rules/regulation nor regimentation you refer to...
...but I accept it's a popularly held one.
 

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So regulated, so regimented...


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Moreton-in-Marsh CAMC this afternoon... £16.22 per night*


*solo, no addition for Kerry, VAT discount applied.

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Here we go again :doh:
France Germany Spain etc is perfect pretty good - the UK is terrible not as good & at the overpriced...
Corrected it for you!
😊

I've probably spent equal time in the UK and western Europe on Camp Sites, both as a frame tent camper/hike tent camper and as a campervan & motorhomer.

The weather issue aside (which can make or break a camp site holiday no matter where it is or how good it is), in general, the sites within western Europe are better, in general, than the ones in the UK.

That said I can name two sites in the UK that would be in my top 10. (One a CL on Romney Marsh with minimum facilities and the other a Scout camp site in the Peak District with a toilet block that would be the envy of a 4 star hotel). However my other 8 sites would all be in Germany, France, Switzerland, Austria and Italy, where hotel standard toilet blocks are the norm.
 
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I've also found that. Perhaps my experience is unusual but I've seen very few foreign motorhomes or caravans on the U.K. sites but when 'over there' there's been a substantial percentage of visiting foreigners. Maybe the need to cross the Channel puts them off?
We had people from all over Europe stay on our site in the North East of England. Predominately the Dutch who came on the Ferry to Newcastle. Some stayed one night before setting off on a tour of Scotland or whatever and some stayed much longer. We had a good few returnees, but you would tend to find that a good majority of “foreigners” just wanted to do the UK and once they had been that was it. We once had a group of a dozen or so Dutch vans who were a religious group. Early on a Sunday morning they held an open air service, complete with lustily sung hymns, which went down well with our native and probably hungover campers.
 
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The worst thing (for me) is having to book up any places where I might like to stay, it's like planning a military operation to have a couple of weeks away.. (some C&CC THS don't need booking).

So much easier to wander to the area you fancy and just select an aire or campsite ad hoc. Then move on after a day or two (or three)..
 

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The worst thing (for me) is having to book up any places where I might like to stay, it's like planning a military operation to have a couple of weeks away.. (some C&CC THS don't need booking).

So much easier to wander to the area you fancy and just select an aire or campsite ad hoc. Then move on after a day or two (or three)..
We've just had a holiday along the south coast, wandering as you say and using CLs.

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