To Toll or not to Toll....

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Heading to Ancona monday from Calais. I will be travelling after 8-10pm untill I hit my 500 mile mark. Thing is the toll route takes 20hours and covers 1313 miles, the none toll route takes 27 hours and covers 1359 miles. I am baffled at the time difference, any ideas folks? I'm thinking and aditional 7 hours drivong a 3 ltr motorhome could run into a lot of money. But the mile difference is staggering.... Help!!
 

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Why are you baffled, the average speed on the toll roads is usually quite a bit higher than the non toll route. Don’t know your route but roundabouts and towns slow you down.
 

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Very simple really. On the tolls you are on a motorway so you can drive at a steady speed with few things to slow you down. Off the toll roads you have to navigate smaller roads with lower speed limits, towns and villages with even lower limits, roundabouts and traffic lights etc.

Not sure what you mean by the mile difference. 46 miles isn't much on that distance.
 
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I should have said I am purposely traveling after 10pm untill 6am to avoid trafic. I am thinking this may be fine on the none toll roads as I wont be driving more that 55-60mph anyway. comments please.
 

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In answer to your question...................if your point is to get to Ancona (and beyond ?) then it's toll roads without doubt.

Set the cruise control open a beer and put your feet up
 

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And if driving at night I think even more important to avoid those constant villages and roundabouts.......................and all those Frenchmen who come out of the bars,set their cruise control and have another glass of wine
 

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I should have said I am purposely traveling after 10pm untill 6am to avoid trafic. I am thinking this may be fine on the none toll roads as I wont be driving more that 55-60mph anyway. comments please.
Because when you choose the toll option it assumes you are driving at the maximum speed limit. That's why the 7 hour difference
 

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Off the toll roads its roundabout after roundabout and no traveling at 55-60, it's a 50 limit now unless dualled.
 

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Because when you choose the toll option it assumes you are driving at the maximum speed limit. That's why the 7 hour difference
As Gus said, the toll route thinks you’ll be driving at 80-90kph and non toll it thinks your be doing 50kph....

I personally drive during the day on non tolls as I see the journey as part of my trip..👍🏼
 

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I would only drive at night if I had to, just don't find it enjoyable....

If a route says 27 hours non toll I'd allow much more and I'd drive 6 hours a day tops, so 27 hours would be 4-5 days
 

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As DBK says take your time .
I like to think when I am in the motorhome driving , it is the start of a holiday , enjoy the sights and take it easy. I want to be relaxed , i do not set long distance targets, no night driving if possible , and because I am from Yorkshire try and avoid any tolls.
 

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All I can say is in France, Millau Bridge 12 miles in total almost 30 Euros for a 4tonne 3.23M motorhome. only toll we used. we would not have used that amount of fuel, but were aware of some pretty hairy roadworks on the non toll road.
 

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Heading to Ancona monday from Calais. I will be travelling after 8-10pm untill I hit my 500 mile mark. Thing is the toll route takes 20hours and covers 1313 miles, the none toll route takes 27 hours and covers 1359 miles. I am baffled at the time difference, any ideas folks? I'm thinking and aditional 7 hours drivong a 3 ltr motorhome could run into a lot of money. But the mile difference is staggering.... Help!!
You’d have to weigh up the cost of tolls over the extra mileage and time. Motorways are boring and useful only if you have to get somewhere fast.
I drove from Brittany a few months ago, to Carcassonne using toll roads, the cost (class3) was around €150.
If your heading for Italy, the toll costs through France will be similar.
Remember also, the toll route will assume you are travelling at or near the roads speed limits. Travelling slower will obviously take more time.
Non toll routes will also assume travelling at or near speed limits, but quite easy to do as traffic is far lighter than in the UK and you should be able to keep close to the speed limits.
 

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In terms of fuel used, there are extra costs in using the toll roads. I find that at the higher speeds on toll roads the mpg drops by about 10%. The roundabouts on the non toll routes surprisingly do not increase fuel consumption significantly. The fuel effect of speed is down to the non aerodynamic shape of motorhomes. Fuel stations on toll roads are more expensive than the supermarket fuel stations you can use ln the non toll route.
In summary, the toll roads get you there sooner if thats important, but will cost dearly.
 
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In France, there are good alternatives to the motorways. I was finding in Northern Italy that avoiding tolls took me on very long routes with much longer journey times. Plus you'll have crazy Italian scooter riders passing you on both sides because you aren't going 20km/h over the speed limit.
 

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You'll be lucky to average more than 40mph on single carriageway roads in France.
Just to add to the above, I can confirm, after several journeys where I have made the calculation our average, off Toll journeys through France, was 38mph.
 
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