Timing belt

Janiemou

Janiemou

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We have a four-year-old Peugeot Boxer, 2.2 l diesel engine, approaching 40k miles. About 25% of our mileage is urban or short trips, the rest is spent travelling to Greece & back twice a year. What thoughts are there about when the timing belt should be changed?
 
Mine is nearly 5 years old with 26000 miles. I wondered about the age of the belts and how everything we buy now is rubbish. I decided to splash out and was pleased I did as the old belts had dozens of cracks and perished.
It'll be cheaper to replace them than repair damage if they go. No doubt it's on your mind as it was with me.
 
I'd change it for peace of mind you dont know how long it was sitting prior to a converter building it
 
As their are so many variables not just milage or age, any small oil or antifreeze leaks will seriously reduce there life as well as dust /air/sun.
I always change mine every three years regardless of manufacture recommendations, having seen many let go long before there recommended time destroying complete engines for the want of a couple of hundred pounds,
Admittedly I do all the work my self and only use genuine original quality parts but in the long run gives you piece of mind,
 
You would assume the OP would know the type of engine is fitted to his van, obviously haven’t a clue! Is it just me,,,,,, but when ever I purchase something new I spend time investigating how it works and what maintenance it needs if any, To be honest I should know better after fifty years in the motor trade with vehicle coming in that had never had there bonnet opened since the previous year by the owner,
Sad reflection on out times :cry:
 
ivorantony said:
You would assume the OP would know the type of engine is fitted to his van, obviously haven’t a clue! Is it just me,,,,,, but when ever I purchase something new I spend time investigating how it works and what maintenance it needs if any, To be honest I should know better after fifty years in the motor trade with vehicle coming in that had never had there bonnet opened since the previous year by the owner,
Sad reflection on out times :cry:
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I think the OP was correct in asking the question. Not everyone is mechanically minded. The question was asked and the answer was given by those who know.
 
ivorantony said:
You would assume the OP would know the type of engine is fitted to his van, obviously haven’t a clue! Is it just me,,,,,, but when ever I purchase something new I spend time investigating how it works and what maintenance it needs if any, To be honest I should know better after fifty years in the motor trade with vehicle coming in that had never had there bonnet opened since the previous year by the owner,
Sad reflection on out times
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Not a sad reflection at all. Not everyone is interested in oily clothes and socket sets. I’m not remotely interested in lifting bonnets. Very few need lifting theses days anyway. As long as I know which fuel to put in I’m happy to be clueless about the rest. :D

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Thanks for the interesting range of responses ... the 'chain-driven' bit interests us. Are you saying it can only wear, but not fail?
 
they do wear but not as fast as a belt usually good for 10k at least and it is unlikley to fail without warning it will get noisey long before it fails
 
A timing belt or chain is driven by the crankshaft to the camshaft, to keep the engine 'timed'. That is to ensure the valves open and close in time with the pistons moving up and down.

A timing belt, is fitted outside the engine, covered by a plastic shield, is made of high quality rubber and tends to be quieter, they need replacing periodically, depending on the vehicle. Should the belt snap, catastrophic damage can be caused to the engine by the valves colliding with the pistons. That can cost ££££££'s to repair. Check the recommended belt changing intervals with the manufacturers guide.

A cam chain, is fitted inside the engine and is bathed in engine oil. They can last the lifetime of the vehicle, can be a little noisier, and sometimes can stretch or wear, along with chain guides and the tensioners. Good quality oil, and servicing should keep it in good condition. If a chain is stretched the engine will run a little rough, and harder to start as the timing will be slightly 'retarded'.

Hope this helps a little.

Craig
 
Jim said:
Not a sad reflection at all. Not everyone is interested in oily clothes and socket sets. I’m not remotely interested in lifting bonnets. Very few need lifting theses days anyway. As long as I know which fuel to put in I’m happy to be clueless about the rest. :D
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Me too:xThumb:
 
So what you lot are saying is my 2.2 Peugot HDI cam belt is a chain and not a belt????????????? I hope this is true as the B!!%!ward at my local garage charged me £270.00p to get mine done.Please leave a reply if this is true so i can go up and pull his nuts off and stick them where the sun don't shine.

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tick59 said:
So what you lot are saying is my 2.2 Peugot HDI cam belt is a chain and not a belt????????????? I hope this is true as the B!!%!ward at my local garage charged me £270.00p to get mine done.Please leave a reply if this is true so i can go up and pull his nuts off and stick them where the sun don't shine.
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No mate the 2.2 Peugot HDI is a slightly different animal
 
mitzimad said:
they do wear but not as fast as a belt usually good for 10k at least and it is unlikley to fail without warning it will get noisey long before it fails
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10 k miles !!!
More like 100 k miles and most will do a lot more
 
tick59 said:
So what you lot are saying is my 2.2 Peugot HDI cam belt is a chain and not a belt????????????? I hope this is true as the B!!%!ward at my local garage charged me £270.00p to get mine done.Please leave a reply if this is true so i can go up and pull his nuts off and stick them where the sun don't shine.
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The Peugeot 2.2 hdi engine as fitted to x244 model vans has a belt, the later 2.2 puma ford/Peugeot/Citroen engine is chain driven. What year is your van?

D.
 
Hi.
For those who have a belt that needs changing,it is recommended that if the miles are not covered in up to 5 years....It needs to be changed then,at 5 years old.
Tea Bag
 
Tea Bag said:
Hi.
For those who have a belt that needs changing,it is recommended that if the miles are not covered in up to 5 years....It needs to be changed then,at 5 years old.
Tea Bag
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On my engine it has a recommendation of 8 or 10 years
I recently did my own at 6 years ( cos paranoia set in ! ) and it was like a new belt still
 
If it’s a Ducati, it’s every two years.

Ian
 
Jaws said:
I recently did my own at 6 years ( cos paranoia set in ! ) and it was like a new belt still
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When we had our first one on our FIAT 2l they showed me the timing belt, like new. Then they showed my the tentioner pulley, it was near to collapse. So that was money well spent.

I take my hat off to you DIY, I looked, could hardly get a hand near, saw the instructions for special tensioning tool and decided it would be money well spent supporting local industry, nice guys, motorhome owners and bikers, even racing them.

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bigtwin said:
If it’s a Ducati, it’s every two years.

Ian
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But not any more, they've seen the light and the new engine is timing chain.

The Ducati program on a week or so ago, the designer said they moved to timing belt purely to reduce cost, 'nuff said.

But I've owned gear driven cams, now that is engineering.
 
If it's a Ducato 2.8 JTD it should be changed at 120,000 km (74,564. ml.) or every 48 months

always check the owners handbook.. 23119894_1973185626229132_3371317870086443485_o.jpg
 
If the vehicle is sold here in Spain,or anywhere classed as hot, then the mileage /kms are half what they are for changing as the UK
 
hilldweller said:
But I've owned gear driven cams, now that is engineering.
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Like the old Essex Vs? Fibre gears prone to stripping. I replaced mine with helically cut metal gears. Noisy, but not as loud as the exhausts or the carbs on full throttle
 
It's not just the belt, what I have posted previously

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