Show us your Angles Mort (1 Viewer)

[GAVLAD]

Now that it seems France is becoming more possible to travel to and hopefully even easier after any government travel review, for those who have a Motorhome over 3500kg, where have you stuck your Angles Mort stickers?

Please will you post a photo?
This could be interesting!

 

[Scotch mist]

In the bin , where they belong , along with the breathalyser

 

[jongood]

I've been on a large aire for the past 3 nights, must have seen 300+ motorhomes, mostly French and lots of them in what in Uk would be the 3500-4500kgs category. I've seen 2 with stickers , 1 is an ancient fiat based cb that actually looks under 3500kgs and 1 new le Voyager with twin wheels.

I've got some in the cupboard just in case but seeing them as single use items if at all.

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[GAVLAD]

In the bin , where they belong , along with the breathalyser

Photo please

 

[jongood]

Photo please

With dimensions clearly marked

Apparently there is a key area to fix them that is guaranteed to save cyclists from injury!

 

[GAVLAD]

With dimensions clearly marked

Apparently there is a key area to fix them that is guaranteed to save cyclists from injury!

maybe it’s between their wheel spokes to stop them cycling

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[sallylillian]

My removable ones, ready for instant Gendarme pacification!

 

[Lenny HB]

My removable ones, ready for instant Gendarme pacification!
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Well your van may look a tad big even for the French to assume its 3500kg.

 

[Lenny HB]

I'm considering buying a pair to put in the glove box.

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[GAVLAD]

I’m sure I read somewhere on here that you need x3

 

[sallylillian]

I’m sure I read somewhere on here that you need x3

One each side, one on the back, correct. I think Lenny was being casual with his humour rather than offering pedantic advice.

 

[Scotch mist]

I'm considering buying a pair to put in the glove box.

me 2. Or 3

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[GAVLAD]

I’ve seen a motorhome image version advertised on eBay but according to the iota.org.uk site, it said official stickers must be displayed with only PSVs & HGVs versions published with Motorhomes opting for the PSV image.
I wonder how fussy they would be if someone had a motorhome copy version?

Knowing my luck, I think I’ll stick with getting the PSV image version.

 

[peterc10]

My removable ones, ready for instant Gendarme pacification!
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Where did you get these from please. Do they stick well enough not to blow off?

 

[Spriddler]

Open this link......

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[peterc10]

Open this link......

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I know how to Google.

What I am interested in are the rigid ones held on by suckers, as shown in sallylillian post. That way I can easily take them off when I want to.

 

[Mr porky]

I know how to Google.

What I am interested in are the rigid ones held on by suckers, as shown in sallylillian post. That way I can easily take them off when I want to.

Me too.

 

[Lenny HB]

I’ve seen a motorhome image version advertised on eBay but according to the iota.org.uk site, it said official stickers must be displayed with only PSVs & HGVs versions published with Motorhomes opting for the PSV image.
I wonder how fussy they would be if someone had a motorhome copy version?

Knowing my luck, I think I’ll stick with getting the PSV image version.
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Will it matter which one when it's in the glovebox.

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[Jonny1953]

New legislation in France from 1 January 2021 requires all vehicles over 3.5T to display warning stickers to indicate the position of blind spots to other road users.

As the rule is that the stickers need to be fitted to indicate "blind spots" on HGVs, then surely I don't need to fit any as with my mirrors correctly set up and a reversing camera, I have clear visibility and no blind spots

 

[DangerMousy]

I know how to Google.

What I am interested in are the rigid ones held on by suckers, as shown in sallylillian post. That way I can easily take them off when I want to.

Yes me too.....I think they look awful and I don't want to stick anything permanent.

I found this place that sells various types: https://www.reflecto.shop/marking-signs/truck-sign-blind-spot-angles-morts-france
And they say the signs are only compulsory within city centres???

They have 3 removable options:

• adhesive - reusable PET film with slightly adhesive silicone coating, removable without residues (not suitable for curtains)
• adhesive – reusable film with microsuction structure on the rear, removable without residues
• Impex polycarbonate plate with suction cups

I'm thinking of getting the "adhesive - reusable PET film with slightly adhesive silicone coating, removable without residues (not suitable for curtains)" version to keep in the MH just in case.

I also note that they have a warning about the microsuction one:

Important notes on the reusable signs with microsuction structure on the rear

.........It is also recommended to use the sign only when needed and to avoid any trips with the signs attached when they actually are not required (e. g. on motorways).......

But theres no warning about the rigid one with suction cups....which maybe suggests that the one sucker versions like sallylillian's will probably stick on ok?

 

[Lenny HB]

And they say the signs are only compulsory within city centres???

Not quite correct it's Urban areas.

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[ChrisL]

Like most, I would prefer not to stick these stickers on my van, my only concern would be if I was to have an accident with a cyclist and didn't have them on, how would that effect any insurance claims or worse any legal consequences if there was a severe injury or death involved. I think for me I will probably apply them, just incase.

 

[wiljoy]

I've just despatched a large batch to a customer. They are removable/ re-useable so will last a long time. The material was specially ordered and is a thicker variation to the tax disc holders.
Look out for these, probably on the Internet. They won't be cheap.
I was going to print extra for members but most appear to be against using them so decided not to.

 

[Sapper520]

Do they do magnetic ones?

Just thinking of other sign users like taxi companies / driving schools etc that have magnetic signs on their doors.

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[ChrisL]

Yes me too.....I think they look awful and I don't want to stick anything permanent.

I found this place that sells various types: https://www.reflecto.shop/marking-signs/truck-sign-blind-spot-angles-morts-france
And they say the signs are only compulsory within city centres???

They have 3 removable options:

• adhesive - reusable PET film with slightly adhesive silicone coating, removable without residues (not suitable for curtains)
• adhesive – reusable film with microsuction structure on the rear, removable without residues
• Impex polycarbonate plate with suction cups

I'm thinking of getting the "adhesive - reusable PET film with slightly adhesive silicone coating, removable without residues (not suitable for curtains)" version to keep in the MH just in case.

I also note that they have a warning about the microsuction one:

But theres no warning about the rigid one with suction cups....which maybe suggests that the one sucker versions like sallylillian's will probably stick on ok?

I'm not seeing the PET version in the order type drop down box on that link, further down it says:

All designs at a glance (all for rigid surfaces only, not suitable for curtains)

• self-adhesive – permanent: sticker for long-term usage
• adhesive – reusable film with microsuction structure on the rear, removable without residues
• magnetic – removable and reusable
• aluminium composite plate
• Impex polycarbonate plate with suction cups

Content: 1 sign (250 x 170mm)

Were you able to order the PET version?

Edit: it would appear that the PET version is available for the truck sticker but not the bus sticker.

Edit 2: further reading on the link that DangerMousy kindly provided indicates that the correct sign for motorhomes over 3.5 tonnes is the bus version, the one with a motorhome on is for motorhomes less then 3.5 tonnes but is not a legal requirement, also the version with suction cups is for internal use ie stuck to a window, see below from the data sheet.

MOUNTING INSTRUCTIONS The suction cups must be pressed onto a smooth, clean and dry surface in order to be able to provide maximum adhesion. Therefore, please clean the surface where you would like to install the marking sign with a wet cloth and rub it dry. Thanks to the suction cups, the marking sign can be attached and detached easily and quickly. We recommend to install the marking sign inside the vehicle. If it is attached outside, the car should not be moved in order to prevent the loss of the sign.

 

[Spriddler]

Do they do magnetic ones?

Just thinking of other sign users like taxi companies / driving schools etc that have magnetic signs on their doors.

Yes, they are in my Google link of suppliers that I posted along with choices of flexible, rigid, plastic, aluminium, s/adhesive and sucker types.

 

[Sapper520]

A quick google and you can get 3 magnetic ones for €25.

We shouldn’t need them being on the limit 3500kgs……but who knows?

When motorcycle touring we got the breathalyser’s and Helmet stickers as per French requirements……..look what happened to those.

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[Vipar]

So it’s only vans over 3500kgs that can knock dickheads off their bikes?

 

[Jim]

So it’s only vans over 3500kgs that can knock dickheads off their bikes?

I seriously doubt if the stickers will save a single life.