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Bossgad

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Hi all,

I'm looking at getting self levelling jacks fitted but I don't know a lot about them, the pros I think are generally obvious the cons I don't know. Any thoughts or experience?

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Oh good, we had the updated chassis when we bought it (5t), agree with you wish I
I had it done when I ordered it.
 

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Our MoHo has air suspension on the back which is a great driving aid and I let them down for the weekend to level us up then blew them up to drive off.
 

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the cons are if wild parking you shouldnt use leveling devices as that makes it camping .
but if you dont do wild then should be ok.

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So with air suspension you use it self level? Is this after option then do you think badknee?
 

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So with air suspension you use it self level? Is this after option then do you think badknee?
There are two main sorts of air suspension, some are just essentially very tough rubber bags which are pressurized to give additional springing with a lot more give in them than the rubber "bump stops" many MHs have - which look like bump stops but technically aren't. If you have a Ducato based MH look underneath and you will see these at the rear immediately above the axle, fitted between the top of the leaf spring and the bodywork.

The other sort of air suspension is very similar but all the little bags are piped to an on-board compressor which can be used when you stop to level the MH. These latter cost something like £1.5K to £2K on the prices I have seen. The former are significantly cheaper. Do a search here on the forum and you will find several posts about air suspension.
 

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So with air suspension you use it self level? Is this after option then do you think badknee?
Well we were nose down on a site so I let the air out that dropped it enough to level us up. A lot easier than getting the levelling block out. The air is a much nicer ride than bog standard cart springs and shockers too as I found out by driving some distance without the air. Wot fick moi?? :LOL:
 

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I fitted my own air suspension kit to the rear of MoHo and use it as described by Badknee. If on un-level ground I let out, or pump up the side in question whilst the Wife yells from inside as she watches the level. I have to say for the Dunlop system which cost me just shy of £500 all in, it is a godsend. The additional benefits are not just the height levelling but the control on the road - it's like night and day, little buffeting by coaches and roundabouts are a doddle, ramps no probs, just send the back up. (y) I have to say that for the couple of hours (and I mean two) it took to fit the system its more than worth it's initial outlay. Another bonus is if you sell yours you can just swap it onto the new one (provided it the same chassis spec).
Wouldn't be without ours - did a thread on it somewhere, I'll see if I can find it.

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Trikeman. ;)
 

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So with air suspension you use it self level? Is this after option then do you think badknee?
They are a good option but If you use this option to self level the MoHo will still rock as you move around. Levelling jacks will level and steady all in one.
Sometimes with jacks you may still need blocks as if the lift required it high it may lift the wheels off the floor and this by general consensus is not advised. So if very uneven, blocks to get close t level and jacks to level

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I believe the question was re after market self levelling when on site, by means of hydraulic jack system. Electronic operation, around the 5k figure, one jack fitted to each corner.
 
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I believe the question was re after market self levelling when on site, by means of hydraulic jack system. Electronic operation, around the 5k figure, one jack fitted to each corner.
Wow I didn't realise it was that much, maybe air suspension is the way to go
 

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Air suspension will not lift or lower the van sufficiently if on sloping ground. My van has air suspension but I have invested in a Hydraulic levelling system which I would not want to be without. It enables me to pitch on areas of aires / sites which are not level enough for others to use. If you decide on the Hydraulic route be careful who you have to fit the system. I have had an experience with the installer who fitted my system which is now before the County Court.
 

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Air suspension will not lift or lower the van sufficiently if on sloping ground. My van has air suspension but I have invested in a Hydraulic levelling system which I would not want to be without. It enables me to pitch on areas of aires / sites which are not level enough for others to use. If you decide on the Hydraulic route be careful who you have to fit the system. I have had an experience with the installer who fitted my system which is now before the County Court.
Quite right but I use mine to level on a slight slope but with my payload of 600kg a lot of it would be taken up by a hydraulic system.

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We were at the seafront Aire at Dieppe recently and parked next to a Pilote A class which had hydraulic levelers, I was amazed to see the front wheels off the ground by a good six inches. Must have been a good pump to lift all that weight
 

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We were at the seafront Aire at Dieppe recently and parked next to a Pilote A class which had hydraulic levelers, I was amazed to see the front wheels off the ground by a good six inches. Must have been a good pump to lift all that weight

We have the E&P hydraulic system on our Flair and can lift all 4 wheels off the floor no problem. The jacks are rated at about 6 tons each.

Yes the system is about £5k but I would have it again just for the ease of levelling and the stability you get, also can jack the wheels off the floor any time you need too, handy for laying planks under in a muddy field.
 

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We were at the seafront Aire at Dieppe recently and parked next to a Pilote A class which had hydraulic levelers, I was amazed to see the front wheels off the ground by a good six inches. Must have been a good pump to lift all that weight

A hydraulic pump will have no problem lifting that weight and more, what may be a problem is the weight of the wheels hanging on the suspension and steering.

Wheels should never leave the ground, with this much to level they should have used chocks first to get them close.
 

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A hydraulic pump will have no problem lifting that weight and more, what may be a problem is the weight of the wheels hanging on the suspension and steering.

Wheels should never leave the ground, with this much to level they should have used chocks first to get them close.

I had read that you should not hang the wheels in the air so try to avoid it, but I asked our service guy and he said there was no reason not to. I am interested in anybody else's opinion though.

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I had read that you should not hang the wheels in the air so try to avoid it, but I asked our service guy and he said there was no reason not to. I am interested in anybody else's opinion though.
Two post ramps lift the chassis so that work can be done on the suspension that's hanging free, massive Cranes lift all there wheels off the ground when lifting. I know of no problems with a full lift.
 
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Our Motorhome is on a Man chassis and has air suspension at the rear which is good for raising & lowering the back when boarding ferries etc & is adequate for levelling on aires etc but when on site the E&P hydraulic levelling really comes into its own. I would thoroughly recommend it if you have the payload.
 

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I had read that you should not hang the wheels in the air so try to avoid it, but I asked our service guy and he said there was no reason not to. I am interested in anybody else's opinion though.
Visit your local ATS or similar where they change tyres and you will see numerous vehicles in the air with their "legs" dangling.
 

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I have the glide right hydraulic jacks one on each corner. The previous owner had them fitted at £3500 you can raise front or back or side to side. They are good enough to lift the Burster off the ground and its a tag axle. When I had two new tyres fitted last year I drove in pressed the button and lifted the front off the ground so they could
change the tyres. The tyre fitter said he wished every one could do that. LOL they make a great difference when parked up as you don't get the wobble. (y)
 

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If, like our m/h, you have an Alko chassis with the rear axle that requires regular greasing .. it is supposed to be done with the wheels off the ground and the suspension hanging free.
Wheels should never leave the ground, with this much to level they should have used chocks first to get them close
If, like our m/h, you have an Alko chassis with the rear axle that requires regular greasing .. it is supposed to be done with the wheels off the ground and the suspension hanging free.

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I don't see why you cannot let the wheels hang down, after all they do if you jack it up to change a wheel or to work on the front. Gliderite do hydraulic levelling for £3500.
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I don't see why you cannot let the wheels hang down, after all they do if you jack it up to change a wheel or to work on the front. Gliderite do hydraulic levelling for £3500.
Ezee

Yep but only for a short period of time, not for weeks on end, bit like an oil change not damaging for a short period of time but you would not leave it out for weeks.

Not my rules, recommendations from the manufacture and I know of at least one owner who had a large repair bill from damage to their rear suspension that the garage put down to the weight of wheels hanging.

It each to their personal choice but I'm following the manufactures instructions and keeping mine firmly down
 

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Had it on 3 RVs absolutely brilliant bit of kit wish it was on my current van not that I'd pay £5k for a retro fit.Used it to lift wheels up and change tyres brake pads etc etc. never a problem.
 

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Yep but only for a short period of time, not for weeks on end, bit like an oil change not damaging for a short period of time but you would not leave it out for weeks.

I think most owners would only be doing it for short periods of time and then only on rare occasions. If the motorhome was in storage there wouldn't really be a necessity to level it.
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I had read that you should not hang the wheels in the air so try to avoid it, but I asked our service guy and he said there was no reason not to. I am interested in anybody else's opinion though.
I am a mechanical engineer, I can confirm that there is no reason why the wheels shouldn't be lifted off the ground other that it will make them vulnerable to be stolen ! No chocks are required so long as you leave your handbrake on to prevent the vehicle running away when it is lowered down onto the ground. My system can lift the front wheels hanging 25 cm off the floor, very handy on sloping sites, (see my avatar).

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