road tax....which box did you tick ?

pappajohn · Nov 25, 2014

Just got my reminder and now i see the confusion from a previous post.

I want to tax for 6 months......top box on form £156.75

If i tax by DD the cost is just £149.63 yet over the page it states 6mth and 12mth (monthly) DD attracts a 5% surcharge which in this case brings the cost to almost the same as box one....£149.63 + 5% near as damn it = £156.75

I am convinced DVSA have cocked up once again and the two figures are transposed into the wrong box.

If this is the case then DVSA are gaining money by false representation.
anyone not wanting DD will tick the top box thinking they are paying the cash sum but are in fact paying the DD cost....£149.63 + 5%

So which box did you tick and did the actual cost tally with the box ?

scotjimland · Nov 25, 2014

just paid mine on-line.. 12 months , one off payment . £285 . not interested in another DD

the 5% surcharge only applies to 6 month one off DD payments and 12 monthly DD payments

GJH · Nov 25, 2014

I did the same as Jim - 12 months, one off payment (as I always did beforehand).

pappajohn · Nov 25, 2014

ScotJimland said:
just paid mine on-line.. 12 months , one off payment . £285 . not interested in another DD

the 5% surcharge only applies to 6 month one off DD payments and 12 monthly DD payments

So it seems Jim.....but the stated price is £149.63 which includes the 5% surcharge as does the 12 monthly installment DD.....£285 + 5% = £299.25

Take the 5% off the stated 6 monthly DD and the true 6 month charge is £142.11....yet in box one its £156.75 one off cash price

pappajohn · Nov 25, 2014

scotjimland · Nov 25, 2014

pappajohn · Nov 25, 2014

I predict within 2 years the 6 month option will no longer be available....either DD or cash.

It will be either 12 months cash or 12 months DD or 12 monthly payments.

It appears we are being penalised for buying every 6 month cash and given the option (albeit temporary) to pay every 6 months by DD at a greatly reduced rate.

Once they hook you on DD then change the period most arent going to bother cancelling and paying cash so in my case i would pay £299.25

GJH · Nov 25, 2014

The confusion is because the 6 months cash option attracts a surcharge of 10%, not 5%.

Cash rates:
12 months tax = £285
6 months tax = (285/2) + 10% = 142.50 + 14.25 = £156.75

Direct debit rates:
12 months tax = £285
6 months tax = (285/2) + 5% = 142.50 + 7.13 = £149.63
12 monthly payments - 285 + 5% = 285 + 14.25 = £299.25

pappajohn · Nov 25, 2014

GJH said:
The confusion is because the 6 months cash option attracts a surcharge of 10%, not 5%.

Cash rates:
12 months tax = £285
6 months tax = (285/2) + 10% = 142.50 + 14.25 = £156.75

Direct debit rates:
12 months tax = £285
6 months tax = (285/2) + 5% = 142.50 + 7.13 = £149.63
12 monthly payments - 285 + 5% = 285 + 14.25 = £299.25

Thanks Graham.

I know someone with more than sawdust holding their ears apart would get to the bottom of it.

So....they are charging you for the privelidge of using what every other provider classes as a free service ...... DIRECT DEBIT.

Not as if it involves credit for a one off DD payment, is it.

Bailey58 · Nov 25, 2014

I taxed for 12 months recently as usual but before this new option came in I did tax for six months to change my annual renewal period so the RFL didn't expire in the period I was likely to be away. I know what I mean.

BwB · Nov 25, 2014

pappajohn said:
Not as if it involves credit for a one off DD payment, is it.

There is no difference in price for the one off 12 month options. Both are £285 however you pay it.

The extra costs come in if you want to have 6 months tax or pay monthly for your 12 months tax.

GJH · Nov 25, 2014

pappajohn said:
So....they are charging you for the privelidge of using what every other provider classes as a free service ...... DIRECT DEBIT.

No, they are charging you (as they always did) a premium for not paying the full 12 months tax up front - but they have reduced the charge from 10% to 5% if you pay by DD.

GJH · Nov 25, 2014

Bailey58 said:
I taxed for 12 months recently as usual but before this new option came in I did tax for six months to change my annual renewal period so the RFL didn't expire in the period I was likely to be away. I know what I mean.

We've done that in the past.

Reallyretired · Nov 25, 2014

I shall probably take advantage of the dd option, as the £500 for my landrover will take me by surprise once there is no disc to remind me.

Puddleduck · Nov 25, 2014

I have done 6 months so that the MOT, insurance and VED aren't all due in the same month. Otherwise always 12 months VED.

pappajohn · Nov 25, 2014

Reallyretired said:
I shall probably take advantage of the dd option, as the £500 for my landrover will take me by surprise once there is no disc to remind me.

Bloody hell......what kind of dirty diesel engine do you have in that, a Lister petter ?

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pappajohn · Nov 25, 2014

Query solved now.......but it did appear the two six month prices were transposed into the wrong tick boxs.

And with DVSA/DVLA's track record for getting things wrong it wouldnt surprise me in the slightest.

Terry · Nov 25, 2014

Bloody hell £285 a yr ? I am pretty certain my 4.2 t ambulance conversion only costs £165 a yr or have I GOT THIS WRONG ?Think it's due January
TERRY

movan · Nov 25, 2014

Terry said:
Bloody hell £285 a yr ? I am pretty certain my 4.2 t ambulance conversion only costs £165 a yr or have I GOT THIS WRONG ?Think it's due January
TERRY

The road tax on that little van you found is £275.

scotjimland · Nov 25, 2014

Terry said:
Bloody hell £285 a yr ? I am pretty certain my 4.2 t ambulance conversion only costs £165 a yr or have I GOT THIS WRONG ?Think it's due January
TERRY

your probably taxed as PLG .. ?

Terry · Nov 25, 2014

movan said:
The road tax on that little van you found is £275.

Is it ? I only taxed it for 6 mths so cannot remember as far back as last week

Terry

movan · Nov 25, 2014

Terry said:
Is it ? I only taxed it for 6 mths so cannot remember as far back as last week
Terry

No, not that one.. the one for the Bristol girl.

Terry · Nov 25, 2014

ooops thought you meant the red one --still don't know how much I paid

Tootles · Nov 25, 2014

pappajohn said:
.what kind of dirty diesel engine do you have in that, a Lister petter ?

Er, I have a lister in our narrowboat........Philistine!!

pappajohn · Nov 25, 2014

Terry said:
Bloody hell £285 a yr ? I am pretty certain my 4.2 t ambulance conversion only costs £165 a yr or have I GOT THIS WRONG ?Think it's due January
TERRY

Thats cos its a private hgv Terry....over 3500kg

My rv is 6.8ltr, 7500kg and 32ft long....all one price, £165pa, regardless of size or weight

This is for my car...3lt deisel Chrysler 300c with a 'crap in the air' reading of 220g/km

pappajohn · Nov 25, 2014

Tootles said:
Er, I have a lister in our narrowboat........Philistine!!

Yeah....but you dont pay road tax on a boat.

pappajohn · Nov 25, 2014

ScotJimland said:
your probably taxed as PLG .. ?

Think you misread Terry's post Jim.

Tootles · Nov 25, 2014

pappajohn said:
Yeah....but you dont pay road tax on a boat.

Wanna bet??? £825 per year, extra 5% if you pay by card. No six month option.

Terry · Nov 25, 2014

Another reason to buy a ambulance to convert

terry

Terry · Nov 25, 2014

Tootles said:
Wanna bet??? £825 per year, extra 5% if you pay by card. No six month option.

Get your money back it still don't go on the road

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